ahankar - episode 21 - Page 5

if tulsi das can introduce stories like maya Sita which was not there in VR, or if kamban , cho R were free to interpret ramayan the way they wanted. The choice was on people whether to read them or not. Nobody stopped them.

Originally posted by: Arshics

Second, if Ramayana was history, then Rama was mortal And a human being, so not above questioning

If Ramayana was a scripture then it was not history, it was always meant to be a religious text, written to exemplify standards of morality, so not a reality!

Originally posted by: mnx12

Arshicks, that forum is not so active. That's why I posted the link here. Will open that thread now.
This was another take on Ahilya's story. Just to explain, there may be many interpretations of the same story. Some may be liked, some may not. But there is something for everyone in our rich scriptures. It's upto us to accept or reject.

Originally posted by: Adishakti

if tulsi das can introduce stories like maya Sita which was not there in VR, or if kamban , cho R were free to interpret ramayan the way they wanted. The choice was on people whether to read them or not. Nobody stopped them.

it's obvious here that SKR cvs have read a lot of versions but using them as a base coming up with their own version with interpretations that may convince some people and may not convince others

They should definitely do that and like with previous authors people should have a choice. Those who like it will watch it, those who don't can avoid it. But telling to stop making their own interpretations and stick to VR is not fair.

If others were given the freedom before them then why not these guys. They may not have achieved the respect which tulsi das or kamban have today but so what.

here every episode is giving out a beautiful value and message which is very relevant for today's time. And as long as that continues or even if does not, God has given an individual brain to everyone to interpret a situation as they want and a voice to present it, we can listen to it if we want and not if we don't. If God didn't want to be questioned he wouldn't have given a brain and voice to everyone

Originally posted by: Adishakti

if tulsi das can introduce stories like maya Sita which was not there in VR, or if kamban , cho R were free to interpret ramayan the way they wanted. The choice was on people whether to read them or not. Nobody stopped them.

it's obvious here that SKR cvs have read a lot of versions but using them as a base coming up with their own version with interpretations that may convince some people and may not convince others

They should definitely do that and like with previous authors people should have a choice. Those who like it will watch it, those who don't can avoid it. But telling to stop making their own interpretations and stick to VR is not fair.

If others were given the freedom before them then why not these guys. They may not have achieved the respect which tulsi das or kamban have today but so what.

here every episode is giving out a beautiful value and message which is very relevant for today's time. And as long as that continues or even if does not, God has given an individual brain to everyone to interpret a situation as they want and a voice to present it, we can listen to it if we want and not if we don't. If God didn't want to be questioned he wouldn't have given a brain and voice to everyone

@Arshics yes. epic is a kind of History.Ramayana and MB both are historical events. but there are no solid proof about those. in Ramayana, few description about RamaSethu,Sri Lanka , etc.. giving hope. in MB, There are few stories about Chera,Chozha,Pandiyas. but it's hard to believe that few skilled much as master in Divyastras. if Ramayana, MB treated as Sacred texts,we can't make comments much about that.

did you read my topic "Ram Ram Ram"? perhaps it may give a vision why i respects Ramayana much. about worshipping, Hindu are worshipping God for moksh, Parents for thanksgiving, gurus for enlightenment. same for me, I don't care whether Ram is God or King. even if he is neither both , I'll still worshipping him. because Ram from Ramayana is my Guru. I'll worship him because a Guru he enlightening my morals. so I don't care about theism and atheism but till end I'll be an ardent follower of Ramayana.so I'm never objected Morals through Ramayana adaptations but I think whole scenario must been shown before judging. Thank you.

@ ramkijanaki

Originally posted by: iDea-yeS-viruS

@Arshics yes. epic is a kind of History.Ramayana and MB both are historical events. but there are no solid proof about those. in Ramayana, few description about RamaSethu,Sri Lanka , etc.. giving hope. in MB, There are few stories about Chera,Chozha,Pandiyas. but it's hard to believe that few skilled much as master in Divyastras. if Ramayana, MB treated as Sacred texts,we can't make comments much about that.

did you read my topic "Ram Ram Ram"? perhaps it may give a vision why i respects Ramayana much. about worshipping, Hindu are worshipping God for moksh, Parents for thanksgiving, gurus for enlightenment. same for me, I don't care whether Ram is God or King. even if he is neither both , I'll still worshipping him. because Ram from Ramayana is my Guru. I'll worship him because a Guru he enlightening my morals. so I don't care about theism and atheism but till end I'll be an ardent follower of Ramayana.so I'm never objected Morals through Ramayana adaptations but I think whole scenario must been shown before judging. Thank you.

Originally posted by: Adishakti

@ ramkijanaki

I have already stated that SKR cvs have not earned the same respect as Tulsidas or Kamban. And that they are showing their own version of Ramayana.

But saying that unless you are a saint you have no right to present your own version of Ramayana is not fair.

For me Maya Sita is also fiction because VR does not mention it.

The path to enlightenment starts with a question, and I feel God encourages everyone to question and find their own answers, some succeed some fail. But those who don't question definitely fail.

Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..

Dude, how can we even compare people like the CVs, who aren't even saints first of all but producers of television shows, to great people like Tulsidas and Kamban?😲Yes, different saints have written versions different to Valmiki, but all of them have done so after great meditation, after connecting with God, conversing with God, and understanding his story through a pure, unbiased mindset. They did not write God's story for the sake of TRPs or entertainment. They wrote with a purely selfless intention to connect with God and attain moksha. How can you compare such saints with the modern CVs of today?

The authors of today who write their own interpretation of the epics simply to suit their own beliefs, or for pure entertainment purposes, their books cannot be taken as "another version" or the epic. Their books are simply fiction and nothing else, and until the CVs of this show give justification for their stories and cite their sources, I will say this entire show is a fiction too.

Also, it's not about God wanting or not wanting to be questioned. For a human being to think they can question God, who controls not just us or the Earth, but the entire universe, is not possible, because our brain is not extensive enough, neither is it as intelligent, to question such an entity. God is beyond question or answer. Neither can be be questioned, neither can he give an answer to satisfy all of humankind, because humans nowadays are not satisfied with anything. Something that satisfies one person will irritate another, so God has left it to humankind to find their own answers. If they want to reach God, they will do so with complete surrender, without any doubts in their minds. We cannot reach God if we constantly question and doubt him.

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It depends POV.
@Bold
👏yes. I'm also feeling same at many places and many adaptations.
To show themselves as superior by pointing GGod's or leader'S mistakes.

Yes.Ram was King and ruled people. It wasn't democracy. But Ram abandoned his beloved wife for whom he defeated and Killed A ruler of three worlds, just for street gossiping. We're modernized, civilized,Living in democratic country. But can we make open comments on political leader decision or his life. I'm not supporting Kings but I'm saying without analyzing and comparing clearly, we mustn't make comments like old traditions are regressive and backwards one which recent scholars boosting much.