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Posted: 6 years ago
ruhaan and mishty does not talk normally to each other. until now. so emotional bond between is quite surprise

to have emotional bond first thing is needed that two person should talk normal each other and should give time to each other

here mishty and ruhaan and never talk normally to each other and never spend quality with each other and even don't help each other so how emotional bond is connected between mishty and ruhaan I don't know

in fact till now I have not seen any emotional bond between ruhaan and mishty

I have seen just arguing between mishty and ruhaan out of misunderstanding and insecurities
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: krystal_watz


You're taking my words too literally it seems.

By 'talk', I don't mean only casual chat. I mean forming a bond with that person and developing a friendship with him. The kind of interactions that Ruhaan and Pari have, where you can understand that person by talking with him.

Just being around someone and hearing about them is not enough to know them on a deeper level. Yes, you can understand certain basic things like he's a nice guy or she's an egomaniac. But you cannot really get to know them as a person. You need to form a bond to fall in love, that's what I'm talking about.


Because you said thin air, I was trying to explain to you why you don't have to sit down and talk to know a person.

At what deeper level does Pari understand Ruhaan? She knows he has been good to her and Mishti knows the same too, regarding the deal. Does Pari know him at a level deep enough to know how hurt he is by Mishti issue? Obviously not. So she doesn't know him any better than anyone else.

Just being around Mishti has been enough for Ruhaan. He has seen who she is with her family, Veer, Veer's family and he is proud of all that about her.

Mishti doesn't want to be in love with Ruhaan, but she is also happy to hear good things about him from Pari and Su, so long as she feels her feelings are in check.

Really, people develop a crush into love by never even talking to the person. You know those intensely shy people who just fall for the most dynamic people and sometimes feelings get reciprocated over time and love story blooms. Just an example, not directly talking about Mishti and Ruhaan.

Mishti and Ruhaan talked and interacted at the dining table and in the car. The breakfast incident was very sweet and enough for her to know him, enough to thank him and apologise to him. There have been so many more issues around them than have happened between Pari and Ruhaan.

And Mishti doesn't profess she is in love with him. She will be vehemently denying it for quite some time . If at all she says she loves the guy, there will be enough reasons by then. For now, it is the possibility of the beginning of an intense love.
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: chicksoup


Because you said thin air, I was trying to explain to you why you don't have to sit down and talk to know a person.

At what deeper level does Pari understand Ruhaan? She knows he has been good to her and Mishti knows the same too, regarding the deal. Does Pari know him at a level deep enough to know how hurt he is by Mishti issue? Obviously not. So she doesn't know him any better than anyone else.

Just being around Mishti has been enough for Ruhaan. He has seen who she is with her family, Veer, Veer's family and he is proud of all that about her.

Mishti doesn't want to be in love with Ruhaan, but she is also happy to hear good things about him from Pari and Su, so long as she feels her feelings are in check.

Really, people develop a crush into love by never even talking to the person. You know those intensely shy people who just fall for the most dynamic people and sometimes feelings get reciprocated over time and love story blooms. Just an example, not directly talking about Mishti and Ruhaan.

Mishti and Ruhaan talked and interacted at the dining table and in the car. The breakfast incident was very sweet and enough for her to know him, enough to thank him and apologise to him. There have been so many more issues around them than have happened between Pari and Ruhaan.

And Mishti doesn't profess she is in love with him. She will be vehemently denying it for quite some time . If at all she says she loves the guy, there will be enough reasons by then. For now, it is the possibility of the beginning of an intense love.


He reassures Pari by making her confident from within; he becomes child-like with her. They have a strong and healthy friendship.

This is the basis for love. When you haven't ever talked to the person and just know them on a superficial level, then you can only have a crush and not real love.

I'm not just talking about understanding some traits of a person, I'm talking about having a bond. Without having a relationship with a person, you cannot really know him.

About him helping Mishti at the table---that's what any sensible human being would do; she was choking. 😆
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: krystal_watz


He reassures Pari by making her confident from within; he becomes child-like with her. They have a strong and healthy friendship.

This is the basis for love. When you haven't ever talked to the person and just know them on a superficial level, then you can only have a crush and not real love.

I'm not just talking about understanding some traits of a person, I'm talking about having a bond. Without having a relationship with a person, you cannot really know him.

About him helping Mishti at the table---that's what any sensible human being would do; she was choking. 😆


That's also just the bond between friends or siblings. Fact is, Ruhaan sees Pari only as a really good friend. At least for now. So Pari feels love, why doesn't Ruhaan feel the same for her? Afterall they have the same situation together? Why only one feels love?
Obviously love is different for different people. What Arnav feels is not what Pari feels. What Pari feels is not what Ruhaan feels.

I am not talking about the choking. Talking about the talk after that. It was a small interaction, but she knew he was the guy to have around when you are in trouble. She felt humble enough to apologize to him. He brought out the best of her in spite of her resistance. These are small things that lead to love.

The way he offered to drop her was also very genuine and gentle, despite her rudeness to him before. Says a lot about how forgiving the guy is.
Every classic love story is not in your face with the couple spending time together. Most of the times it is a feeling that develops gradually. That is how it is developing for Mishti. It is not an easy ride for her.
Edited by chicksoup - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: chicksoup


That's also just the bond between friends or siblings. Fact is, Ruhaan sees Pari only as a really good friend. At least for now. So Pari feels love, why doesn't Ruhaan feel the same for her? Afterall they have the same situation together? Why only one feels love?
Obviously love is different for different people. What Arnav feels is not what Pari feels. What Pari feels is not what Ruhaan feels.

I am not talking about the choking. Talking about the talk after that. It was a small interaction, but she knew he was the guy to have around when you are in trouble. She felt humble enough to apologize to him. He brought out the best of her in spite of her resistance. These are small things that lead to love.

The way he offered to drop her was also very genuine and gentle, despite her rudeness to him before. Says a lot about how forgiving the guy is.
Every classic love story is not in your face with the couple spending time together. Most of the times it is a feeling that develops gradually. That is how it is developing for Mishti. It is not an easy ride for her.


In your face? That's the most common way in which people fall in love, by spending g time together and getting to know each other. In facts, that's the only way people fall in love in real life. This whole, "falling in love from a distance" happens only in shows and movies. It's a very dramatic and fairy tale-ish way for feelings to develop, which is why I'm unable to relate to this whole thing.


Bold: That's what I'm saying too. Love develops gradually from getting to know each other, not at first sight or within two minutes.

About why Ruhaan doesn't feel love for Pari, I'm not saying that every single friendship should develop into love. What I'm saying is, Pari has a ground to develop feelings for him because she knows him at a personal level, something which Mishti doesn't.

Mishti has no relationship with Ruhaan, she only knows certain superficial things about him which doesn't really count as 'knowing' him. Knowing someone is far deeper than "Ohh he's a really nice guy", you know. 😆
Edited by krystal_watz - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: krystal_watz


In your face? That's the most common way in which people fall in love, by spending g time together and getting to know each other. In facts, that's the only way people fall in love in real life. This whole, "falling in love from a distance" happens only in shows and movies. It's a very dramatic and fairy tale-ish way for feelings to develop, which is why I'm unable to relate to this whole thing.


Bold: That's what i'm saying too. love develops gradually from getting to know each other, not at first sight or within two minutes.

About why Ruhaan doesn't feel love for Pari, I'm not saying that every single friendship should develop into love. What I'm saying is, Pari has a ground to develop feelings for him because she knows him at a personal level, something which Mishti doesn't.

Mishti has no relationship with Ruhaan, she only knows certain superficial things about him which doesn't really count as 'knowing' him. Knowing someone is far deeper than "Ohh he's a really nice guy", you know. 😆


Ah ! This is why you can relate to Mishti and Veer better.
You strongly believe love equals time spent with each other, so fairytale ish love is just that. Not at all. You might be speaking from your experience, definitely your experience is not everyone's experience.

Ruhaan is a very emotional person as Veer put it and he does know some girl has affected him deep down. We all know that girl is Mishti . So how did love happen to him when he has minimal interactions with Mishti ? The same way love didn't happen, despite multiple interactions with Pari.

Your thinking of love is probably what Mishti and Pari believes too. For Pari, love means new feelings developing overnight. In all likelihood it looks like she already loves Arnav, but there is too much familiarity to recognise it as love. If Arnav Pari happens, I dont think it will be anything new he does...it will be just Pari realising she always loved him.

As for Mishti, she knows loving Veer is the safest bet for her, anything else she will fight tooth and nail.

The same interactions with both the girls have been enough for Ruhaan to know he is in love, he is just not pursuing it.

These are all notions the writers are tackling.
Mauli believed love would happen to her only once- Bang! They shattered it with Ishaan. 😆

Mishti believes love will happen and develop as she wishes- another myth! 😆

Pari believes when love happens band baaja will come- no, love can happen stealthily, over a period of time. You will just realise one fine ordinary day that love has happened and you don't know exactly when it happened.

Trust and commitment and understanding can be cultivated over time, but love...there us no telling how it will hit u and from where, and that is not a fairytale.

At least if you believe it occurs in drama and fairytale, you should realise this is a drama, otherwise you are going to be disappointed by the writing if you believe characters can only fall in love one way.

For me, I know for a fact this happens in real life too. If Mishti and Veer had a lot to fall back on, a lot of circumstances they faced together, they would be close. For now, they have had a pretty easy time- at some point love will be tested to know if it is true love.

She wanted safe love, so she chose the best guy who seemed to like her and called it love and committed. The point us, there is a difference in liking and loving someone and time has nothing to do with it.

As far as Mishti knows Ruhaan, he is close to both her siblings. He never ratted on her even if he might think ill of her. He was nice enough for her to apologise to him and really nice to offer a ride after the last time she gave him no face. These things are enough to know the guy is a decent human and he must have that extra something Pari didn't find in Arnav and she didn't find in Veer. Difference is, she doesnt want to be attracted to that extra some thing.
Edited by chicksoup - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago

they showed clearly that after affair with nandini kunal dsciyraed mauli once when she tried to get intimate with her.mauli was 3 months pregnant.she realized it late


Originally posted by: sweetzzz

I think we should know how Mishti and veer's relation started and what was the basis of it first.

I understand your parallel between s1 and S2, but then in s1, Kunal even after starting an affair with nandini behaved as if he is a loyal husband and that was when mauli got pregnant. That's two timing to me. In contrast, here in S2 Mishti is atleast fighting her confusion and not getting intimate with either, and she is trying to understand what she feels.

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Originally posted by: chicksoup


Ah ! This is why you can relate to Mishti and Veer better.
You strongly believe love equals time spent with each other, so fairytale ish love is just that. Not at all. You might be speaking from your experience, definitely your experience is not everyone's experience.

Ruhaan is a very emotional person as Veer put it and he does know some girl has affected him deep down. We all know that girl is Mishti . So how did love happen to him when he has minimal interactions with Mishti ? The same way love didn't happen, despite multiple interactions with Pari.

Your thinking of love is probably what Mishti and Pari believes too. For Pari, love means new feelings developing overnight. In all likelihood it looks like she already loves Arnav, but there is too much familiarity to recognise it as love. If Arnav Pari happens, I dont think it will be anything new he does...it will be just Pari realising she always loved him.

As for Mishti, she knows loving Veer is the safest bet for her, anything else she will fight tooth and nail.

The same interactions with both the girls have been enough for Ruhaan to know he is in love, he is just not pursuing it.

These are all notions the writers are tackling.
Mauli believed love would happen to her only once- Bang! They shattered it with Ishaan. 😆

Mishti believes love will happen and develop as she wishes- another myth! 😆

Pari believes when love happens band baaja will come- no, love can happen stealthily, over a period of time. You will just realise one fine ordinary day that love has happened and you don't know exactly when it happened.

Trust and commitment and understanding can be cultivated over time, but love...there us no telling how it will hit u and from where, and that is not a fairytale.

At least if you believe it occurs in drama and fairytale, you should realise this is a drama, otherwise you are going to be disappointed by the writing if you believe characters can only fall in love one way.

For me, I know for a fact this happens in real life too. If Mishti and Veer had a lot to fall back on, a lot of circumstances they faced together, they would be close. For now, they have had a pretty easy time- at some point love will be tested to know if it is true love.

She wanted safe love, so she chose the best guy who seemed to like her and called it love and committed. The point us, there is a difference in liking and loving someone and time has nothing to do with it.

As far as Mishti knows Ruhaan, he is close to both her siblings. He never ratted on her even if he might think ill of her. He was nice enough for her to apologise to him and really nice to offer a ride after the last time she gave him no face. These things are enough to know the guy is a decent human and he must have that extra something Pari didn't find in Arnav and she didn't find in Veer. Difference is, she doesnt want to be attracted to that extra some thing.


Bold: You're contradicting yourself now. 😛

You said in your earlier post that love happens gradually over a period of time. If that is the case, then the realization of love should also be a gradual process, which it always is. It's not, as you say, a sudden realization of one fine morning.

You always know when you're growing close to someone. You know you're starting to feel something towards them, your interactions are different than they used to be, you feel a bit something more when you are with them. That is how it happens with almost everyone. I'm talking in general, not just about me in case that's what you thought.

Acceptance of love in your mind takes time, but you know when you're starting to feel differently about someone. It goes on at the back of your mind and you're aware of it.

About that 'extra something'-- what is it? When and how did she feel it? Has she not come across empathetic people before? Does she not have guy friends who care about her and argue with her like Ruhaan? That's what I fail to see in this show.
Edited by krystal_watz - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: krystal_watz


Bold: You're contradicting yourself now. 😛

You said in your earlier post that love happens gradually over a period of time. If that is the case, then the realization of love should also be a gradual process, which it always is. It's not, as you say, a sudden realization of one fine morning.

You always know when you're growing close to someone. You know you're starting to feel something towards them, your interactions are different than they used to be, you feel a bit something more when you are with them. That is how it happens with almost everyone. I'm talking in general, not just about me in case that's what you thought.

Acceptance of love in your mind takes time, but you know when you're starting to feel differently about someone. It goes on at the back of your mind and you're aware of it.

About that 'extra something'-- what is it? When and how did she feel it? Has she not come across empathetic people before? Does she not have guy friends who care about her and argue with her like Ruhaan? That's what I fail to see in this show.


Not at all contradictory.

I have explained clearly that love cannot be contained in one strict definition.

It is one way for Pari, another way for Arnav, different way for Ruhaan and Mishti.
This is Clearly why Mishti is as confused as you. She believes in your definition of love. 😆
Ruhaan is not confused. This is the first time he has felt this way about someone and he knows it is love.

If you are looking for a love story that is supposed to go according to some rule, you won't find it. Anyway, since you're happy watching this show and love judging characters , that is your way of enjoying the show. Good for you. Hope you find the love story you are looking for in any one of the characters. 😆 For me, I find love in stories of all the characters. 😊

The point in Mishti's love story - if you are really looking for a reason - all those arguments are created. They are her reactions to the feeling she is not comfortable with. Those are all interactions that have brought them closer without any conversations . Ruhaan knows her better than she knows him, because he has paid attention to every detail related to her. Like, he knows she will listen to whatever Veer says because he observed how she agreed to him Immediately when asked to go to the cafe with Ruhaan. It is the same amount of interaction, similar feelings, but different level of understanding. That's because Mishti resisted, Ruhaan didn't.


Edited by chicksoup - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: krystal_watz


Bold: You're contradicting yourself now. 😛

You said in your earlier post that love happens gradually over a period of time. If that is the case, then the realization of love should also be a gradual process, which it always is. It's not, as you say, a sudden realization of one fine morning.

You always know when you're growing close to someone. You know you're starting to feel something towards them, your interactions are different than they used to be, you feel a bit something more when you are with them. That is how it happens with almost everyone. I'm talking in general, not just about me in case that's what you thought.

Acceptance of love in your mind takes time, but you know when you're starting to feel differently about someone. It goes on at the back of your mind and you're aware of it.

About that 'extra something'-- what is it? When and how did she feel it? Has she not come across empathetic people before? Does she not have guy friends who care about her and argue with her like Ruhaan? That's what I fail to see in this show.


Wanted to discuss this too, which I forgot in the previous reply.
@ bold -

Is this line applicable only to Mishti?
When I read this line, I was reminded of Pari.

What is this extra something she felt that she didn't feel with Arnav who has been empathetic and caring to her for ages? Obviously, she felt something.

I'm not going to ask that question of Pari, because I can understand something extra happened. In her case, that something extra may not even be true love, because she has Arnav hopefully to fall back on.

The extra something with Mishti is something she didn't feel with Veer too. She could very well have adopted Pari attitude and decided against marriage and love as such, Veer would never be in the picture. He looked elgible and agreeable, she agreed. Then something extra happened.

Difference between the two chatacters is, one jumped into marriage, the other resisted repeated proposals. They felt the extra something about the same guy. In fact, Pari was over the moon with her very first meeting with Ruhaan. The extra something happened there already in the very first meeting. Mishti was confused and took some time to register somethingbwas happening. Because she was committed, she resisted.

No point saying Pari developed feelings after many interactions and over time. The script clearly showed how she was affected by him the very first day itself, and was dressing herself up so he would feel attracted to her too. That is natural.in.love, so I wont call it physical love.

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