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Posted: 6 years ago

#121

Originally posted by: Sanam_26
15 pages of discussion and I still don't get why not veer and why ruhaan?

What did Ruhaan do that she is flipping towards him? What did veer not do?

Why assume she will be secured n fearless with ruhaan? Why not with veer? Infact ruhaan is a fashion photographer, roj insecure rahegi knowing her fears n history.

Mishti herself doesn't know the answer. 😆

It is not that she will be fearless because she is with Ruhaan. It is that he will make her question her beliefs about love and commitment and she will realise she cannot live in fear of infidelity forever. In some way she will find one guy completes her more than the other.

It is really her own set of beliefs that is being questioned. Why not Veer is not the question. Why the rules and regulations in her relationship with Veer is the question. When those beliefs get questioned, the girl who agreed to marry Veer will not be the same. Of course, Ruhaan is the reason she is entering the taboo area.

Why Ruhaan? It is because she didn't approach her relationship with Veer with complete honesty to HERSELF. When Mishti wanted everything to be honest and clear with Veer and his family, she should not have imposed rigid rules. She didn't give importance to the personality of the girl called Mishti. Obviously, the real Mishti will rebel, today or tomorrow. Her outburst at dumb charades game is crucial to understanding how confused she was when she got engaged to Veer. If you didn't get that aspect of her personality which was clearly portrayed, you are probably never going to understand her complexity.

The rebel Mishti feels attracted to Ruhaan and the rigid Mishti judges her just like you do. It is important to have a good balance of both. If Veer cannot get it out of her head that she doesnt have to sacrifice her identity to be an ideal wife, the other part of her is going to seek someone who can calm her fears. Subconsciously she must feel Ruhaan likes her with all her flaws and that really puts her off, because she doesn't like her flaws. She doesn't want him to.know her. That is why she keeps telling Pari not to mention her to Ruhaan. She doesnt want anyone analysing her.

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chicksoup

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Posted: 6 years ago

#122

Originally posted by: krystal_watz

Every single human being has had crushes or loves in their lives, so I don't see why you think I'm an exception. 😆 I'm not from Uranus ya know.

'Love at first sight' is an oxymoronic term. Love is something deep and develops with getting to know someone. Being attracted to someone is not love, no matter how 'special' it mighty feel. Love is when you love someone for their nature and the ways in which they appeal to you. How can that happen at first sight? Or a hundred sights for that matter? Love comes from knowing someone as a human being. Anything else is attraction. Infatuation or crush is also a form of lust only. Its lust+a little something more, but still its lust and not love. Crush feels like love, but its not love right?

You yourself said that Ruhaan fell for her looks. There's a name for that. It's 'lust'. Lust doesn't always have to be nasty and cringe worthy. Any physical attraction you feel towards someone you don't love is lust, no matter which form it might take. And Ruhaan did fantasize about her in THAT way. How else can you explain him caressing the tissue with her lipstick mark on it? Obviously in Indian TV they cannot show him thinking about her naked body. 😛

Mishti was irritated with him at first but now she's also feeling lust for him. That's why her heartbeat increases and she feels tense around him. That's a sign of physical attraction.

Lust is a nasty word, so let us not take that.

Crush is good enough and fertile soil for love to develop.

Men are more likely to fantasize on a girl they are attracted to, I really don't find anything wrong with it, since Ruhaan is single.

About Mishty , she is physically and emotionally attracted to him. It is definitely not just physical. It is developing beyond a crush and she will take time to realize it.

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Aria

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Posted: 6 years ago

#123

I don't think she has fallen in love with Ruhaan as of yet. She seems conflicted with these newfound emotions. It must be confusing to her because she's in a perfect relationship with Veer, all fairytale and sweet then suddenly she's attracted to this mere stranger. I will say it's attraction, most relationships starts with an attraction and then a foundation of trust, communication, understanding, respect and love is formed.

That scene when Veer hugged her wasn't so bad to be exaggerated as a bad thing. What she needs to do is be honest with herself more than anyone, when she has a clear image in her head, then she can make wise decisions.

This is just me, but what I think is, they put Mishti is such a perfect relationship that she feels it's love and everything she needs but in reality, its not. She's not in love with Veer because if she was she wouldn't feel attracted to this stranger. Had she really love Veer, Ruhan wouldn't affect her or worst, make her heart pound. Misthi needs to be upfront and honest, she needs to confide in Veer. If she backstabs Veer then she's is wrong on all levels. I'm not sure what she feels or not, who she really loves or not, but this is what I see from my perspective.

I think the writers need to execute scenes with a good direction. Because they are the ones writing the characters so confusing at times.

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Posted: 6 years ago

#124

Funny how Pari or Veer is brought to defend Mishti as if it helps Mishti's cause any. And what's continues illogical taunts on how Mishti being discussed more and no one interested in poor Pari? Well, obviously Mishti will be discussed more as she's the one on track of cheating and doing everything which is wrong. These taunts weren't said by the same to themselves when Nandini was discussed the most in the forum and Mouli discussion was ignored completely until very late in the forum. The forum actually used to look like Nandini's forum. Why didn't everyone taunts themselves at that time that we are way more interested in Nandini whom we hate and not in interested poor Mouli whom we claim to love? Well, at that time love or haters, everyone was interested in Nandini only. Even Kunal didn't had discussions as much as Nandini! At least now Pari is discussed way more unlike last time.

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chicksoup

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Posted: 6 years ago

#125

Originally posted by: _Darling_
Funny how Pari or Veer is brought to defend Mishti as if it helps Mishti's cause any. And what's continues illogical taunts on how Mishti being discussed more and no one interested in poor Pari? Well, obviously Mishti will be discussed more as she's the one on track of cheating and doing everything which is wrong. These taunts weren't said by the same to themselves when Nandini was discussed the most in the forum and Mouli discussion was ignored completely until very late in the forum. The forum actually used to look like Nandini's forum. Why didn't everyone taunts themselves at that time that we are way more interested in Nandini whom we hate and not in interested poor Mouli whom we claim to love? Well, at that time love or haters, everyone was interested in Nandini only. Even Kunal didn't had discussions as much as Nandini! At least now Pari is discussed way more unlike last time.

I don't know about Pari or Veer being brought in to support Mishti in whatever way. I have no idea how they can support her or defend her when clearly it is Mishti's issue and she is pretty adamant about her behaviour. It is not Veer's fault as such , it is Mishti's fault she acknowledged something that was not love as love.

Very significant was Pari and Radhika 'S observation that Mishti is different from the Mishti they know when it comes to getting married. This is not to defend her, this is an observation from her family who knows her best. It is up to the viewer to understand why they said that and you should actually bash her for burying her identity for a secure marriage. I am surprised the forum never bashed her for that. I was so irritated with her when she quoted her parents and said she will not repeat her mother 's mistakes. Again Radhika has given an explanation that she is worried about both the girls because their mothers' lives affected them so much. These are all traits of a confused Mishti. Her confused behavior has affected Ruhaan the most, still he seems to see something in her and that is what and scares her more.

As for characters from season 1, well, we are not supposed to discuss them at all.

You can go on bashing Mishti till the very end of try to understand why she is behaving the way she does.

From childhood she had insecurity issues which ended up in her locking up Pari. Thankfully that part was dealt with. She carried on these insecurities to adulthood where parental love and sibling rivalry was not an issue , but she applied some wrong principles when it came to choosing a partner and for some weird reason felt she had to bury her identity . Mishti is a strong personality, so that is not going to happen. It had to come out in some way or the other post marriage. Good for Veer her beliefs are questioned now before it gets more complicated. I am actually happy for him. He is a very relaxed guy and can't handle Mishti's psychological issues. You can see how much she wants to be that perfect good girl - that is a part of her that has to relax. It so happened she started liking a guy who didn't hate her despite her worst behavior. Note how keen she is to know what Ruhaan thinks of her despite everything she has thrown at him...( Ideally she shouldbe bashed for her bad behaviour too, but I guess most Ruhaan fans are as understanding about her as Ruhaan is.) 😆

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Posted: 6 years ago

#126

Originally posted by: chicksoup

Lust is a nasty word, so let us not take that.
Crush is good enough and fertile soil for love to develop.
Men are more likely to fantasize on a girl they are attracted to, I really don't find anything wrong with it, since Ruhaan is single.

About Mishty , she is physically and emotionally attracted to him. It is definitely not just physical. It is developing beyond a crush and she will take time to realize it.

That's what I'm asking you. How can she develop an emotional connection with him when she doesn't even talk to him? Can emotional connections form out of thin air?

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chicksoup

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Posted: 6 years ago

#127

Originally posted by: krystal_watz

That's what I'm asking you. How can she develop an emotional connection with him when she doesn't even talk to him? Can emotional connections form out of thin air?

Where does she not talk to him.

Indirectly, there are so many interactions.

What is your idea of understanding a person? Be in the same space and talk to him or her? There is always the danger that person will project only what he wants you to think about him.

A better way is to know how a person behaves to the people around him when he knows your are not around. You will know him better through people who have known him.

She has heard everyone around her talk lovingly about him including his friend , her sister, grandmother and she has seen how he has helped her siblings. It is not out of thin air. There are so many instances through which she knows him. Her direct interactions have been to insult him or push him back, but indirectly he has made an impression which again, she is trying to reject. Fact is, he is a nice guy and despite her doubts about his intentions around her, Mishti can very well see he is a nice guy.

Seriously. You don't understand a person just because you talk to him or her. You observe, hear about the person from others, enough to know a person. And sometimes if you haven't picked up these cues around him, you will not know that person even if you are 24 hours with that person and talking. For eg. with the minimum interactions he has had, Ruhaan seems to understand Mishti better than Veer. At least he knows her enough to know he is the last person who she should spend her birthday with. Veer does not know that much about Mishti , when Radhika and Pari too knew why Ruhaan should not be the one.

What is the point in knowing a person for X number of months if you don't get this basic thing about her. 😆

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sweet_tania

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Posted: 6 years ago

#128

Originally posted by: chicksoup

Where does she not talk to him.
Indirectly, there are so many interactions.
What is your idea of understanding a person? Be in the same space and talk to him or her? There is always the danger that person will project only what he wants you to think about him.

A better way is to know how a person behaves to the people around him when he knows your are not around. You will know him better through people who have known him.

She has heard everyone around her talk lovingly about him including his friend , her sister, grandmother and she has seen how he has helped her siblings. It is not out of thin air. There are so many instances through which she knows him. Her direct interactions have been to insult him or push him back, but indirectly he has made an impression which again, she is trying to reject. Fact is, he is a nice guy and despite her doubts about his intentions around her, Mishti can very well see he is a nice guy.

Seriously. You don't understand a person just because you talk to him or her. You observe, hear about the person from others, enough to know a person. And sometimes if you haven't picked up these cues around him, you will not know that person even if you are 24 hours with that person and talking. For eg. with the minimum interactions he has had, Ruhaan seems to understand Mishti better than Veer. At least he knows her enough to know he is the last person who she should spend her birthday with. Veer does not know that much about Mishti , when Radhika and Pari too knew why Ruhaan should not be the one.
What is the point in knowing a person for X number of months if you don't get this basic thing about her.😆

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Posted: 6 years ago

#129

Ok. My 2 cents.

This is my first post on this thread.

I think it's not love .Love is deep . It takes time to fall in love. There has to be mutual trust and respect. It is possible to suddenly have feelings for someone, but that is called crush.

What Mishti feels for Ruhaan is crush or attraction . Not love and It's definitely not lust . I have never seen Mishti thinking of sleeping with him or smooching him . She feels connection with him , some feelings for him and doesn't want to accept it, so tries to pull away from it .

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Posted: 6 years ago

#130

Originally posted by: chicksoup

Where does she not talk to him.
Indirectly, there are so many interactions.
What is your idea of understanding a person? Be in the same space and talk to him or her? There is always the danger that person will project only what he wants you to think about him.

A better way is to know how a person behaves to the people around him when he knows your are not around. You will know him better through people who have known him.

She has heard everyone around her talk lovingly about him including his friend , her sister, grandmother and she has seen how he has helped her siblings. It is not out of thin air. There are so many instances through which she knows him. Her direct interactions have been to insult him or push him back, but indirectly he has made an impression which again, she is trying to reject. Fact is, he is a nice guy and despite her doubts about his intentions around her, Mishti can very well see he is a nice guy.

Seriously. You don't understand a person just because you talk to him or her. You observe, hear about the person from others, enough to know a person. And sometimes if you haven't picked up these cues around him, you will not know that person even if you are 24 hours with that person and talking. For eg. with the minimum interactions he has had, Ruhaan seems to understand Mishti better than Veer. At least he knows her enough to know he is the last person who she should spend her birthday with. Veer does not know that much about Mishti , when Radhika and Pari too knew why Ruhaan should not be the one.
What is the point in knowing a person for X number of months if you don't get this basic thing about her. 😆

You're taking my words too literally it seems.

By 'talk', I don't mean only casual chat. I mean forming a bond with that person and developing a friendship with him. The kind of interactions that Ruhaan and Pari have, where you can understand that person by talking with him.

Just being around someone and hearing about them is not enough to know them on a deeper level. Yes, you can understand certain basic things like he's a nice guy or she's an egomaniac. But you cannot really get to know them as a person. You need to form a bond to fall in love, that's what I'm talking about.

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