The Progressiveness of Silsila - Page 5

Originally posted by: BaAZiGar0

i totally disagree with you. if she ends up with ishaan it's just as regressive as if she were to go back to kunal. she doesn't love ishaan. marrying him would be for the sole purpose of giving misti a father and creating a family for herself and misti so that it would look better in society. if she is going to go with the whole " samajh kya kehenge" then how is the progressive ? at least if she went back to kunal it wouldnt be on the basis of society telling her to take him back but because of her unresolved feelings for him. i think the best option for her at this point is to find a place for her and misti to live in and start a new life from there. i never agreed with her staying with radhika / deeda after kunal left because they were HIS responsibility, not hers.

Why should society tell her what to do 😆 ? If Mauli goes back to Kunal it's regressive because she is choosing to live with a cheater husband who humiliated her and she is choosing to live her life as a second choice , as a consulation prize. Same way if she chooses to marry Ishaan so that Mishti can have a father then it's regressive as well. If she doesnt love Ishaan then being alone would be the progressive option.

Originally posted by: BaAZiGar0

exactly, i cant see how ending up in another loveless marriage is progressive ?

Originally posted by: FruitToasty

Progressive and regressive are cool words, but generally not used correctly.. It is a subjective matter, every relationship is different...

Nandini forgiving Rajdeep for rape and domestic violence = Regressive

Because forgiving a rapist or a murderer is not an option, it's not even upto her, there's no option of a rapist changing because he has already committed a crime, he should be punished for a crime ..

Cheating is not a crime, Kunal is not a habitual cheater, forgiving Kunal or not is upto Mauli...

Mauli can forgive Kunal and marry Ishaan because she loves him, Mauli can forgive Kunal and be with him because she loves him... There's nothing progressive or regressive here, it's upto Mauli, it's her choice to make...

If she marries Ishaan it will be because she loves him, she was marrying him for Mishti but in the end I think that will change ..

If Mauli marries Kunal, she won't accept a cheater, she is not accepting his cheating, she will accept a man who regrets leaving her and she believes has changed ..

So in Maunal endgame...Kunal will apologize and repent

In MauHaan endgame Mauli will confess her love..

There's nothing progressive or regressive in both relationships

Originally posted by: FruitToasty

Progressive and regressive are cool words, but generally not used correctly.. It is a subjective matter, every relationship is different...

Nandini forgiving Rajdeep for rape and domestic violence = Regressive

Because forgiving a rapist or a murderer is not an option, it's not even upto her, there's no option of a rapist changing because he has already committed a crime, he should be punished for a crime ..

Cheating is not a crime, Kunal is not a habitual cheater, forgiving Kunal or not is upto Mauli...

Mauli can forgive Kunal and marry Ishaan because she loves him, Mauli can forgive Kunal and be with him because she loves him... There's nothing progressive or regressive here, it's upto Mauli, it's her choice to make...

If she marries Ishaan it will be because she loves him, she was marrying him for Mishti but in the end I think that will change ..

If Mauli marries Kunal, she won't accept a cheater, she is not accepting his cheating, she will accept a man who regrets leaving her and she believes has changed ..

So in Maunal endgame...Kunal will apologize and repent

In MauHaan endgame Mauli will confess her love..

There's nothing progressive or regressive in both relationships

everything in the world is subjective even cheating is subjective. But we still call Kunal a cheater selfish jerk right . Because that is how he comes across in the serial. I don't know iwhy you always relegate what Kunal did only to cheating . I will again say he did much more than cheating . He humiliated and was inhuman to Mauli . Let me repeat again he humiliated and was inhuman to Mauli. Let me again repeat humiliation and inhumanity was also there along with cheating. And that to a person with home you have lived under one roof for 7 years. I don't understand what repentance here means? Just apologising . Can Kunal repent for the fact that he insulted Mauli in front on Nandini and threw Mauli out of the house and danced with Nandini while Mauli was walking on the road with all hopes lost? Can Kunal repent for that fact that despite everything Mauli forgave him , kept a fast for him but Kunal like a jerk threw divorce papers in her face? Can Kunal repent the fact that he was marrying Nandini and making love to her while Mauli was sitting broken in their room? Can Kunal repent the fact that Mauli went through entire pregnancy alone when Kunal was busy building his new life with his new wife in US? Can all these be repented with a mere apology ? Nopes no way in the world. To show Kunal actually repenting above and redeeming himself for the above we need good writers with good writing with a lot of time . 😆 . In atleat 5-6 episodes he can't redeem himself. The only scenario I can think of is if writers take a complete U turn and Kunal says he never loved Nandini and it was always Mauli and he was only with Nandini due to Pari. Because other than that it would be mean that Mauli will always be the second choice , the consolidation prize. Which yes is regressive in every sense. That is not to say Mauli and Ishaan is the only progressive option. If Mauli doesn't love Ishaan she can be alone . Ishaan also deserves to be the first choice and not a consolation prize.If any one compromises their self respect for a relation ship then yes it is regressive . Mauli shouldn't compromise her self respect to be with Kunal and Ishaan shouldn't compromise his self respect to be with Mauli.

Originally posted by: jhalak7

You are not understanding the situation properly.
<font size="6" color="#FF0000">1)Mauli loves Ishan. So that shadi will not be loveless.</font>
2)On the other hand she hates Kunal now. She mentioned Ishan that kunal makes her feel uncomfortable.
3( She was angry at Mishti, Pari and Ishan because they took Kunal to his house. Reason she thought this will delay his memory come back. She wants his memory back as soon as possible.
4) If she loved Kunal she would let it happen in the hotel. Did she?
5) More than anything <font size="4" color="#FF0000"><font size="6">Kunal doesn't love Mauli.</font>
<font size="2" color="#000000">6) Kunal saw a dream of Nandu even in memory loss. He brought exact saree for Mauli, thinking it was Mauli. He was forcing Mauli to wear that saree. If Mauli was a |witch" who wants to get Kunal by hook and crool or a despo or a doormat to take anything Kunal gives...she would accept that offer. But what did she say"Are you sure ...it was me?" Did you see her expression?...It was lil bit of hate and taunting.
7) When Kunal went to his house he saw all the memories of Nandini. <font size="6" color="#FF0000">Nandini is in his mind and heart...he loves her only.</font>


When Kunal doesn't love Mauli and Mauli doesn't love Kunal...why will they marry each other? Woh bhi when Kunal is suffering from memoryu loss. He will hate Mauli if she marry him now. And why will a self suffivient woman like Mauli will be a shoe dust to a guy who doesn't love her anymore?
<font size="6" color="#FF0000">Mia Biwi koi bhi raazi nehi...toh kaun sa payar or kaun sa shadi???</font>
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Awesome love the points in red. BTW I read your other post as well I think I finally found a person who doesn't think yeh jawani hain Deewani is progressive. 😆

Originally posted by: jhalak7

You are not understanding the situation properly.
1)Mauli loves Ishan. So that shadi will not be loveless.
2)On the other hand she hates Kunal now. She mentioned Ishan that kunal makes her feel uncomfortable.
3( She was angry at Mishti, Pari and Ishan because they took Kunal to his house. Reason she thought this will delay his memory come back. She wants his memory back as soon as possible.
4) If she loved Kunal she would let it happen in the hotel. Did she?
5) More than anything Kunal doesn't love Mauli.
6) Kunal saw a dream of Nandu even in memory loss. He brought exact saree for Mauli, thinking it was Mauli. He was forcing Mauli to wear that saree. If Mauli was a |witch" who wants to get Kunal by hook and crool or a despo or a doormat to take anything Kunal gives...she would accept that offer. But what did she say"Are you sure ...it was me?" Did you see her expression?...It was lil bit of hate and taunting.
7) When Kunal went to his house he saw all the memories of Nandini. Nandini is in his mind and heart...he loves her only.


When Kunal doesn't love Mauli and Mauli doesn't love Kunal...why will they marry each other? Woh bhi when Kunal is suffering from memoryu loss. He will hate Mauli if she marry him now. And why will a self suffivient woman like Mauli will be a shoe dust to a guy who doesn't love her anymore?
Mia Biwi koi bhi raazi nehi...toh kaun sa payar or kaun sa shadi???

Originally posted by: amirthaa

I dont know why u guys want to justify Kunan for mauhaan to happen...

Dont forget this was the same kunal who did not utter a word when mehek questiones him of why did he not start another life with mauli? He hell did not justify his love was nandhini...

This was the same kunal who was horrified to better during mauli and ishaan re-engagement...

U can want Mauhaan, for that dont make Kunan love as true...I freaking get irritated when others says kunal and nandhini love was true...When that love does not even have any base...

Anyways it is my point of view, I see many people here justifying Kunan just so that maunal could not be possible...Lets wait till the stroy unfolds...Even i can be proved wrong..But right now, I can never accept ur taught.

hi can you explain to us what were the reasons for Kunal to cheat on Mauli, humiliate her, discard her like trash , consider unborn mishty a burden to him and nandu. Also why did he marry nandu And stay with her in the first place ..why did they have pari,.Give us a one good reason why Kunal did all of this.and also let us know why you think Mauli should take Kunal back,because we can't think of one good reason why Mauli should unite with Kunal...but we can think of dozens of reasons why Ishaan will make her happy...

Originally posted by: poiu123

If Kunal regrets leaving Mauli it means he was not invested in his relationship with Nandini as well. So that means 2 marriages with 2 different women, yet he could not justify being a good husband to either. If in spite of this Mauli wants to give another chance to Kunal then she is not the Mauli she was portrayed to be in this show. She should not have such a low sense of self worth.

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

everything in the world is subjective even cheating is subjective. But we still call Kunal a cheater selfish jerk right . Because that is how he comes across in the serial. I don't know iwhy you always relegate what Kunal did only to cheating . I will again say he did much more than cheating . He humiliated and was inhuman to Mauli . Let me repeat again he humiliated and was inhuman to Mauli. Let me again repeat humiliation and inhumanity was also there along with cheating. And that to a person with home you have lived under one roof for 7 years. I don't understand what repentance here means? Just apologising . Can Kunal repent for the fact that he insulted Mauli in front on Nandini and threw Mauli out of the house and danced with Nandini while Mauli was walking on the road with all hopes lost? Can Kunal repent for that fact that despite everything Mauli forgave him , kept a fast for him but Kunal like a jerk threw divorce papers in her face? Can Kunal repent the fact that he was marrying Nandini and making love to her while Mauli was sitting broken in their room? Can Kunal repent the fact that Mauli went through entire pregnancy alone when Kunal was busy building his new life with his new wife in US? Can all these be repented with a mere apology ? Nopes no way in the world. To show Kunal actually repenting above and redeeming himself for the above we need good writers with good writing with a lot of time . 😆 . In atleat 5-6 episodes he can't redeem himself. The only scenario I can think of is if writers take a complete U turn and Kunal says he never loved Nandini and it was always Mauli and he was only with Nandini due to Pari. Because other than that it would be mean that Mauli will always be the second choice , the consolidation prize. Which yes is regressive in every sense. That is not to say Mauli and Ishaan is the only progressive option. If Mauli doesn't love Ishaan she can be alone . Ishaan also deserves to be the first choice and not a consolation prize.If any one compromises their self respect for a relation ship then yes it is regressive . Mauli shouldn't compromise her self respect to be with Kunal and Ishaan shouldn't compromise his self respect to be with Mauli.

Originally posted by: amirthaa

I dont know why u guys want to justify Kunan for mauhaan to happen...

Dont forget this was the same kunal who did not utter a word when mehek questiones him of why did he not start another life with mauli? He hell did not justify his love was nandhini...

This was the same kunal who was horrified to better during mauli and ishaan re-engagement...

U can want Mauhaan, for that dont make Kunan love as true...I freaking get irritated when others says kunal and nandhini love was true...When that love does not even have any base...

Anyways it is my point of view, I see many people here justifying Kunan just so that maunal could not be possible...Lets wait till the stroy unfolds...Even i can be proved wrong..But right now, I can never accept ur taught.

Amirthaa if you feel Kunal and Nandini were not true love then why don't you point out facts from the show that indicate the same. Not assumptions but facts, things shown and things said. What is Pari if Kunan was not true love? Is she adopted ? Why did Kunal leave his wife if 7 years and his mother and grandmother for a woman he did not truly love? Is he an idiot? Kunal has from his own mouth said several times that he truly loves Nandini. Even post leap they have shown him talking to her photo and during memory loss track he still remembered the moment he fell in love with her. These are facts . We aren't making it up.