Kunal has not redeemed himself - Page 2

Originally posted by: ritzbitz786

I wrote this on another thread, but it also fits well here.

I'm a silent member for many reasons. One of them being that I joined iF when I was a teenager and realized that the fellow forum members of the show I used to watch were more into their favorite couple/on screen pairing than they were into the storyline. My first major stand/post on IF was when in an Ekta Show the male lead slapped the female lead and it didn't go down well with me but so many other forum members were okay with it because the male lead was "dreamy" "handsome" etc. That is when I realized how many people forget to disassociate the actor from the character.

I think the best of actors are those who portray a character in such a manner where we don't see the actor at all when watching the show, movie etc. The best of actors are the ones where they can portray 100% the character and 0% of themselves as an actor. We forget who is playing the role and get submerged into only the character.

I also think the best of viewers are those who watch the show, movie, etc. without any biases for their favorite couple, actor, etc. They are submerged in the storyline from the characters and storyline point of view. A great example of this is Ranveer-Deepika in Padmavaat. How many people were rooting for Alauddin Khilji and Rani Padmavaati to be together, solely because they ship Ranveer-Deepika? I would hope and assume none.

That is how I feel about "Maunal" or "Shaditi". Sure they pair well on screen. Sure Mauli and Kunal had an amazing marriage in the first few episodes of Silsila. But as a viewer and woman, can I really say I want them together solely because of their electrifying chemistry? No. Not with the way the storyline is portrayed and being presented.

These characters are 1D characters and a figment of the writers imagination. The actors try their best to bring them to life but can only do so much, if the writing is bad. Fans tend to analyze every intense look the actor gave and read it for something, that perhaps it is not.

That being said, Kunal has taken endearing actions towards uniting Ishaan and Mauli. That is great. Give credit when it is due. But he still hasn't apologized for the EMA or done anything which hints towards him regretting it.

How many remember that even after he found out about Mauli's pregnancy and Nandini asked him to go back to Mauli, he once said to Nandini, that he can still be a good father/hands on father without being with Mauli? Or the amount of times he told Mauli that he is no longer her Kunal, that he loves Nandini, that he hasn't done anything wrong because we can't control who we love (the whole divine love)?

As is the title for this thread, "Kunal has not redeemed himself", that is 100% on point. He hasn't. And to be honest, the only way he can is by debunking the whole pre-leap concept of the show which was that "love just happens" and sometimes you don't have control over it, etc. How will the writers manage to do this when the promotions of the show even rested on this "love just happens" concept? It's a really hard sell.

Not only would the writers have to give him amazing dialogues to redeem himself at this point, those dialogues would have to justify that perhaps he never loved Nandini to begin with, he started missing Mauli soon after his marriage with her, etc. Something which shows that he didn't fall in love with Mauli only after Nandini died. Something that shows that she isn't second best or a rebound.

For all those members who say that EMA's happen in real life, the man realizes his mistake and comes back to make his marriage work, etc. I agree. This does happen. But it happens soon after the EMA, while the mistress is still alive. He choses his broken marriage and wants to repair it after the guilt has hit him. In this, Kunal is being shown to fall in love with Mauli only after Nandini's death. Had a Maunal reunion happened pre-leap, during the phase when Dida was trying to unite Maunal through all the pooja's and the sindoor scene, etc. and had Kunal realized his mistake then, then the whole "I'm trying to repair my broken marriage" would have made sense. Kunal realizing Mauli is his true love, even when he has the option of Nandini, would have made sense. Instead the storyline focused on Kunal's lack of remorse, having dates with Nandini, sending her video messages when she tried to break up with him, etc.

That being said, I don't want a Maunal reunion. Nor do I want Mauli to stay alone. I think it takes more strength to fall in love again and begin to trust someone again, and that is why I truly hope the writer steers the story line towards Mauli falling in love with Ishaan. And had Drashti not left the show, I assume this is what the storyline would have been focused on. An insecure Nandini (as articles have already stated) and an insecure Mauli who finds it hard to love again, but eventually moves on with Ishaan. Why change the storyline and try to sell a Maunal reunion solely because Drashti left?

And I hope that Ishaan too sets his mother and Sweetie in place so that Mauli can reunite with Radhika and Dida (obviously not live with them, but reunite with them and continue to have them in her life).

As for the rest of the relationships (Mishti-Kunal, Pari-Mauli) I hope they end on good terms as well. Because Pari is truly not at fault for any of this, nor is Mishti. And in the real world, parents do share joint custody and it is possible to be on good terms and have an amicable relationship with your ex.

Originally posted by: prettywomaniya

agree to almost everything u said above..

i just have to talk on two points.

one is , kunal did efforts to unite ishaan mauli but it was shown that mauli already likes ishaan so i would like to appreciate kunal but not to give him the credit of making mauli fall for ishaan.. she has already.. she can not fall for ishaan for roses and gifts etc if she doesnt like him already..

second is , now makers cant show that kunal and nandini has some problems and he started missing mauli after marrying nandini bcz post leap we saw kunal missing nandini, talking to her picture, caressing that pic with love, he assumes mauli has moved on with a new partner and has a baby and kunal was happy seeing all that and his guilt lessen to a bit.. so all these things clearly tells that kunal loved only nandini till that time also and the most important thing is he cared to know about dida radhika but not mauli.. he never looked back to check if she is fine..

so kunal never regretted his marriage with nandini and never missed mauli..

now if they show this then it will not go down my throat so easily.. and i truly believe this isnt gonna happen..

rest of ur post - word to what u said!!

specially , the part where u have mentioned that if this reunion had happened pre leap it would have looked better and probably most of the viewers would have accepted it ..

Originally posted by: Smithhh

Kunal is one of the most fickle minded character!!Before nandini,his true love used to be mauli,after that his true love became nandini 😆 and now it is going to be mauli again😆..His love changes like seasons😭

Bechara kunal pyar ka mara hai kabhi idher toh kabhi udhar like a pendulam😳

Waise i dont agree with, that he didnt love mauli...One just do not tattoo someone's name on their finger to show off😆...Because tattoing hurts a lot..It was just that love is not an one time affair for him,it depends on mausam,when the mausam is suhana he falls in love😆..Let us wait for barsaat and a rain dance from mauli then another deewana deewana song will be playing on our tv screen for kunal😳

Originally posted by: ritzbitz786

Lol, so true! His character sketch is very fickle. He even told Nandini that something must have already been broken in his marriage for him to have fallen out of love with Mauli, and didn't he once say he perhaps never loved Mauli and she was just his best friend but he mistook that as love?

I do think that we as humans may not love someone at one point in time but we begin loving them at another point in time, but in order for that to happen some major change has to occur. Like for example two young and immature lovers grow apart and go their own ways and later on in life mature and give their love story a second chance.

In this case, Mauli is the same strong, resilient (and add in all her good qualities) person she was pre-leap. So why all of a sudden the attraction and love towards her? It's really hard for me to digest, tbh.

Originally posted by: _charu_

ExCtly why should he be redeemed ? Because he was a bad human being in OUR eyes . Not his. Acc to his thought process, his living an unhappy life with mauli wasn't fair to him or mauli. Why do we have to judge and not accept that he is flawed. In a moment of weakness , he fell in love with another girl . Being married , being committed , he made a promise to nandini . When he is flawed why should he redeem?

And are kunal and mauli getting married that everyone here is scared of kunal whitewashing ? So if kunal is being white washed , mauli might consider him Nd not ishan? I would say that inspite of all this, inspite of all his sacrifices and goodness, mauli must still choose ishan and not him .

Originally posted by: prettywomaniya

charu i told u my idea of redemption.

its not kunal accepting that he did a mistake marrying nandini but he certainly didnt try enough to save his marriage.. his redemption isnt not related to his marrying nandini but leaving mauli.. he should be apologetic about it..

u really think maunal can happen?? at least i dont.. so his white washing has nothing to do with maunal ending up tpgether..

but they can make him great kunal after his deeds.. if nandini got cancer and that was portrayed as her punishment then what is kunal's punishment??

Originally posted by: _charu_

My dear ye dono EK hi cheez hai. Because he married nandini, he ditched mauli . He feels bad for mauli, her life was ruined because of him and he is doing the needful to correct it (by helping her to unite with ishan) . Isn't that enough of redemption ? Do we want him to go on his knees, cry, beg for her forgiveness ? Punishment kya hai ab? Nandini died and he is on death bed with pari all alone ...Isn't that a punishment for him? . The poor child is bearing all the hatred and curses for no fault of hers.

if he says i am sorry i did a mistake falling for nandini and she was just an attraction and i love u then it will be like he is regretting his desicion of marrying nandini..

but if he says i fell for nandini, i really loved her but i could have tried hard to stop myself from breaking our marriage is a different thing. then it will be like he doesnt regret his love for nandini but his leaving mauli..

i also sympathise with kunal for his loss. but where is that loss? i dont see him missing nandini.. i dont see any effect on him after this loss.. i see a happy kunal..

i dont think nandini deserved to die. i am saying it looked like she got death as a punishment. then why only nandini is getting this punishment? why not they let kunal apologize for his doubting mauli's pregnancy?? why it was made mauli's fault? isnt it white washing? didnt we cheer up for mauli that she did right.? now it seems like she was at fault not kunal.. whole camp track was white washing.. mauli is butchered for kunal's sake.. mauli takes the blame , mauli again thinks of him.. reasons?? she saw a good doctor and a good father.. is it even logical?? is this why she let him go??

Arre I don't want kunal with mauli , but why are we insecure about this fact that mauli might choose him ?If it happens , It'll not happen because of this white washing but because mauli still loves the person kunal (with all his flaws , misdoings and betrayal).

i cant talk about others.. i am not at all insecure that mauli will choose him .. but if it happens then u say mauli still loves the person kunal.. and i really dont agree to this..

she already liked kunal in the camp and reasons were stupid. makers couldnt justify that logic then how can they will justify her accepting kunal..

anyways i dont see this happening. but if this happens then i wont be appreciating her.. love card can not be used every single time..

matlab kunal has abused her , he can leave her , he is allowed not to look back and he can doubt her and what not and in the end mauli says I still love u.. lol

not acceptable.. anyways mauli wont say that.. i believe so..