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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Feynmann

Thank u for reminding me that this post is about nandini.
Ofc there are posts on Kunal bt the intensity of posts of nandini ND the words used in them only shows that the TM is dealing with that kind of person in real life.
I would suggest to make a poll on whom do u hate most?Kunal or nandini ND I think the result will answer your question.


Because Nandini was not any X, Y, Z woman or any random chic walking on street who started an affair with a married man. She was bestie of wife who was cheated.


Logically there was no issue in Mauli-Kunal marriage, even if we put logic aside and assume that there must be some issue, still one sided love exist, but there is no 'One sided friendship' concept. Somewhere 'love' and 'lust' are dependent on physical requirements, but frienship is all about trust and mutual understanding. Here target is not Nandini- the woman, but Nandini- kala dhabba on friendship.


There are many post on 'There must be something lacking in Mauli-kunal marriage' but no one has idea about what was that 'somethin'? Lets put logic aside for a moment and assume there was indeed something missing in that marriage which forced kunal to start bang leela... but what was lacking in Mauli's friendship which made Nandini cheat on her in such pathetic way?


And if targetting tabla naari is mentality of regressive society, then acting as advocate of a mistress and putting more blame on man and finding faults in victim is feminazi mentality of so called progressive society. Kunal didn't ask her to accept his proposal on gun point.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: White..Magic


Because Nandini was not any X, Y, Z woman or any random chic walking on street who started an affair with a married man. She was bestie of wife who was cheated.


Logically there was no issue in Mauli-Kunal marriage, even if we put logic aside and assume that there must be some issue, still one sided love exist, but there is no 'One sided friendship' concept. Somewhere 'love' and 'lust' are dependent on physical requirements, but frienship is all about trust and mutual understanding. Here target is not Nandini- the woman, but Nandini- kala dhabba on friendship.


There are many post on 'There must be something lacking in Mauli-kunal marriage' but no one has idea about what was that 'somethin'? Lets put logic aside for a moment and assume there was indeed something missing in that marriage which forced kunal to start bang leela... but what was lacking in Mauli's friendship which made Nandini cheat on her in such pathetic way?


And if targetting tabla naari is mentality of regressive society, then acting as advocate of a mistress and putting more blame on man and finding faults in victim is feminazi mentality of so called progressive society. Kunal didn't ask her to accept his proposal on gun point.


What exactly is this term 'feminazi'?

I personally blame Kunal and Nandini both; but in this case Kunal shoulders greater blame. HE was the one who started it; Nandini didn't seduce him with low-cut blouse and bare midriff.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: ButterflyChaser

EDIT : Here in below post.. I am not saying that we forum people do not find Kunal and Nandini both at equal fault... I just want Radhika to say same things to Kunal too. I feel the reel people of the show doesn't blame Kunal enough. I want him to suffer too.

I know everyone is loving Radhika's dialogue and appreciating her it. But I guess I am the only one who doesn't agree with her. Why is everyone finding only Nandini at fault.. No, m not saying Nandini is not wrong but she is as much wrong as Kunal is. Why is only she being held as responsible one for breaking a house?
Nandini isn't a home breaker. Kunal is. Nandini is at fault for betraying her friend. She is responsible for breaking their friendship and hurting Mauli but it was Kunal who chose extramarital affair over his marriage. It was he, who forgot his seven vows and broke wife's trust. Why is only Nandini being called names?

Why is it that Radhika feels it's Nandini's magic that Kunal doesn't care abt his wife, family or unborn child? Why can't the dialogue be like Kunal has lost his mind and not caring about them? Why doesn't she confront Kunal? Why did she curse Nandin but ready to accept Kunal back in Mauli's life? Why dint she curse Kunal to never get happiness or love or child in his life?

My question is simply to the society that when two persons are committing a crime then why is female considered as wrong and being punished while a man goes scot free.

Agree with you.
Nandini did think for mauli and the child thoodu sa.
She was lost in thoughts for kisi aur ka bacha.
Kunal -his response was indifference for his own bacha.
Not a single thought for the baby.
Radhika did not use those harsh words for kunal like she did for Nandini.Kunal ko bhi bol sakti thi...that he doesnt deserves to be a father.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: ButterflyChaser



Yep, it was Nandini's responsibility to inform Mauli about that. But won't that break Mauli's home? I mean after knowing that ur husband is lusting after ur best friend, You would have left him. So, by that rule.. Nandini would have been a home breaker again.

Nandini is the worst friend anyone could have. But Kunal is the worst husband and all I am saying is it's a couple's responsibility to make their relationship work and not someone else's is. If Mauli had an affair with someone than would we have call that guy a home breaker? No.. Becoz for society, only a woman is a homewrecker.




@bold -- the reason is men don't blame the other man but blame their wife instead for the most part. also, there's a sense of shame and rejection and so the wife is more likely to be the focus of their anger and anguish. thats probably why we never hear of guys being called a "home breaker"...

but just to add to my previous post (I have family who work as mental health professionals), from a counseling perspective, the 3rd party is never called in. only the husband and wife. it does not matter if it is the husband or the wife who cheated but both need counseling alone as well as together in order to mend the relationship and go forward. sometimes, it works and sometimes it doesn't. so from that perspective as well, it is ridiculous that nandini alone gets the blame and mauli alone gets the responsibility of fixing this problem. thats not how it actually works when it comes to mending a broken relationship.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: mango_pudding1



@bold -- the reason is men don't blame the other man but blame their wife instead for the most part. also, there's a sense of shame and rejection and so the wife is more likely to be the focus of their anger and anguish. thats probably why we never hear of guys being called a "home breaker"...

but just to add to my previous post (I have family who work as mental health professionals), from a counseling perspective, the 3rd party is never called in. only the husband and wife. it does not matter if it is the husband or the wife who cheated but both need counseling alone as well as together in order to mend the relationship and go forward. sometimes, it works and sometimes it doesn't. so from that perspective as well, it is ridiculous that nandini alone gets the blame and mauli alone gets the responsibility of fixing this problem. thats not how it actually works when it comes to mending a broken relationship.


But in this the 3rd party was a practically family member. If a man cheated on his wife with her sister, wouldnt the sisters also need to talk and express anger and guilt respectively? Wouldnt other family members call out the sister who cheated on her own sister? Or do families just pretend that sister had no.part to play because ultimately she was noth the one married?




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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: looseseal


But in this the 3rd party was a practically family member. If a man cheated on his wife with her sister, wouldnt the sisters also need to talk and express anger and guilt respectively? Wouldnt other family members call out the sister who cheated on her own sister? Or do families just pretend that sister had no.part to play because ultimately she was the one married?






from a counseling perspective in a clinical setting, thats not at all how it works. only the couple would be called because thats the two people in the marriage. it wouldn't technically matter who the 3rd party was because the way counselors approach the matter is very different. also, from what my cousin sister told me, the onus of responsibility to make amends lie with the spouse who cheated. so kunal is the one who should be apologizing. also, most people go in for marriage counseling pretty much too late in India according to counselors and so the process can be a real uphill battle.

from a family perspective, radhika can give all the lectures to nandini that she wants but at the end of the day, it is her son who stepped out of the house and she doesn't have the guts to call him out or lecture him. instead they celebrate festivals and pretend all is well in front of other people when it is not. highly dysfunctional to say the least. showcases super bad parenting that she is happy to blame others but will not blame her own son.
Edited by mango_pudding1 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: mango_pudding1





from a counseling perspective in a clinical setting, thats not at all how it works. only the couple would be called because thats the two people in the marriage. it wouldn't technically matter who the 3rd party was because the way counselors approach the matter is very different. also, from what my cousin sister told me, the onus of responsibility to make amends lie with the spouse who cheated. so kunal is the one who should be apologizing. also, most people go in for marriage counseling pretty much too late in India according to counselors and so the process can be a real uphill battle.

from a family perspective, radhika can give all the lectures to nandini that she wants but at the end of the day, it is her son who stepped out of the house and she doesn't have the guts to call him out or lecture him. instead they celebrate festivals and pretend all is well in front of other people when it is not. highly dysfunctional to say the least. showcases super bad parenting that she is happy to blame others but will not blame her own son.



But she did blame him. She has never once said Nandini stole him from Mouli (if she has please refer me to the episode). If you are saying she cannot say anything to Nandini at all then its other thing. But to insist that somehow Nandini has absolutely no role in this and this is all Kunals doing is very biased. You are sayinfg radhika, dida, mouli, kunal are dysfunctional for not talking but what about nandini? Wasnt she part of family, wasnt she the bff, so why are you again turning around and saying radhika is being dysfunctional for demanding answers? y
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Kunal is more af fault
Just can't stand him
Creepy , disgusting , unfaithful and shameless
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: White..Magic


Because Nandini was not any X, Y, Z woman or any random chic walking on street who started an affair with a married man. She was bestie of wife who was cheated.


Logically there was no issue in Mauli-Kunal marriage, even if we put logic aside and assume that there must be some issue, still one sided love exist, but there is no 'One sided friendship' concept. Somewhere 'love' and 'lust' are dependent on physical requirements, but frienship is all about trust and mutual understanding. Here target is not Nandini- the woman, but Nandini- kala dhabba on friendship.


There are many post on 'There must be something lacking in Mauli-kunal marriage' but no one has idea about what was that 'somethin'? Lets put logic aside for a moment and assume there was indeed something missing in that marriage which forced kunal to start bang leela... but what was lacking in Mauli's friendship which made Nandini cheat on her in such pathetic way?


And if targetting tabla naari is mentality of regressive society, then acting as advocate of a mistress and putting more blame on man and finding faults in victim is feminazi mentality of so called progressive society. Kunal didn't ask her to accept his proposal on gun point.

Don't use the word friendship for this serial.bec nandini to this hi wrong in terms of friendship from the first in terms of her actions but now I find mouli too a kala dhabba on the name of friendship.we don't wish death for even our worse enemies.bt she wished that.i feel ashamed of the fact that she couldn't grew as a person from all these ND make herself a bigger person in the fiasco.her pati was her parameshwar of her life even if he beat her in public place which is totally wrong coming from a so called independent woman.
I m not supporting N bt for me K is much more sinner.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: looseseal



But she did blame him. She has never once said Nandini stole him from Mouli (if she has please refer me to the episode). If you are saying she cannot say anything to Nandini at all then its other thing. But to insist that somehow Nandini has absolutely no role in this and this is all Kunals doing is very biased. You are sayinfg radhika, dida, mouli, kunal are dysfunctional for not talking but what about nandini? Wasnt she part of family, wasnt she the bff, so why are you again turning around and saying radhika is being dysfunctional for demanding answers? y



in a marriage counseling perspective, blaming the 3rd party actually doesn't solve or mend the relationship. from counselor's perspective, if a marriage has to be mended, the responsibility lies with the husband and wife because they are the two who got married. what the 3rd party did or did not do is not part of the consideration because to mend a relationship, it has to be the 2 of them. that is why only the husband and wife are called in. not even other family members like children, in-laws or parents ever go for these sessions and neither are their inputs taken.

both the spouses would need to put in lot of work but the one who cheated has to put in more as the trust has to be rebuilt. they have to acknowledge their wrongdoing, ask for apology and work on the issues that led them to taking those steps. with the spouse who got cheated, they have to forgive, heal as well as accept if there were behaviours/dynamic that may have contributed to the relationship breaking down. so from a counseling perspective, it is always and only the spouses who go in for these sessions. (this is all from what my cousin sister has shared with me and she works in the field)

now, am saying radhika is dysfunctional because she has never talked to her son. her talking to nandini is all good and expected as she knew nandini and she felt a breach of trust. so she can give all the lectures and hold nandini accountable for her actions. what is hard to digest for many of us is their attitude to kunal. he is not some 5 year old child. he is a grown man who has brains to think and function. where is his accountability for his actions?

episode after episode, I kept thinking that these women will sit down kunal and ask what happened. question his behaviour. fight with him. absolutely nothing. he was there for one month and they didn't do a single step towards mending the relationship between mauli and kunal. no communication. no finding out what happened. no sitting them down together or separately. instead mauli gets all the lectures. when there's issue in the house and one that is caused by her son's behaviour, as a mother, she needs to talk to her son no? what's so great about giving him 2 slaps in front of mauli but not actually talking to him? she is his mother. if the mother can't talk to her son, then isn't the family dysfunctional?

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