Why extreme reaction towards EMA only why not for Domestic Violence

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Saazhumsafars

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Posted: 6 years ago

#61

I agree,people really didn't badmouth rajdeep as much as they badmouth nandini.I see it as some kind of sexism,I don't know if I will be able to explain my view properly but I will try.

I think we are more ready (unintentionally/subconsciously ready) to trash men less,may be because we have become immune to all the horrible stuff men do to women around us.We expect our women to have more virtues and if they fail we trash them to the level not deserved by them.

I had once read an article which gave me the term 'ideal victim'..as much as I remember the article made the point that we can sympathise with people who are wronged as long as they fit our definition of an ideal victim.Nandini kind of fitted the definition as long as she wasnt wronging mauli,now she is horribly ungrateful and unbelievably conscienceless so according to some people she is as bad or even worse than the man who inflicted physical,sexual,mental abuse on his wife and left her off to die after repeatedly kicking her in the stomach when she was pregnant.

The reaction against rajdeep was definitely not as strong as it has been against nandini.The fact that people believe that she is as bad as him or that she deserves to be with him is proof enough.We are ever so ready to subjugate women.Rajdeep will 'control' her so let her be with him.EVER SO READY to control/subjugate/repress women.She got involved with her friend's husband so let us act like she is this highly promiscuous woman who does this with every man ever other week and thus should be controlled.

For yesterday's scene too people have said "I still don't feel bad for her,she is pathetic" but how many said anything about rajdeep and the natak he did acting as if he was a saint and making people believe that she left home with no fault of his and shedding such fake tears?Had nandini done all of this people would have started wishing she was real so that they could tear her apart.😆

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Orchid

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Posted: 6 years ago

#62

Why extreme reaction towards EMA only why not for Domestic Violence?

1. Abhinav never tried to justify Rajdeep's baddy avatar, Shakti did try to justify EMA.

2. Abhinav fans doesn't try to defend Rajdeep's abusive behavior, while IF journalist even trying to defend EMA because of $ 😆

Everyone bash Rajdeep, no one defends and Rajdeep bashing ends there.

But, whenever anyone leaves a comment on shitty EMA, someone comes with justification.

Hence,

Backlash never stops, because of the JUSTIFICATION.

The minute they stop trying to justify a sin, backlash will stop.

I don't think, any married person or who has BF or GF can support this shitty justification, so whoever going through even one scene, leaving a comment.

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1098676

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Posted: 6 years ago

#63

People can come up with all the lame excuses, but the truth is that they are just not used to characters like Nandini I.e. a woman who is flawed like a normal human beings. Kunal and Nandini aren't supposed to have emotions, they are not supposed to cry. They should be absolutely shameless and evil like Rajdeep, otherwise Cvs are "glorifying" their EMA. They are not supposed to romance, they are not supposed to enjoy their moments, because then, they are not feeling guilty.

Why the heck will they feel guilty if they have indulged in EMA by their own choice? Kunal and Nandini themselves think that what they have done is not wrong, but they also don't want to hurt Mauli. It's not too hard to understand that.

The thing is that TV audience is just used to White characters like Mauli, or completely black characters like Rajdeep. So it's hard for them to digest two grey characters as leads, who are confused because of their complex emotions. People want Kunal and Nandini to be absolutely shameless like Rajdeep, or a complete mahanta ki murat like Mauli. Otherwise it's glorification according to them.

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CoffeeCake

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Posted: 6 years ago

#64

Originally posted by: Luna46
People can come up with all the lame excuses, but the truth is that they are just not used to characters like Nandini I.e. a woman who is flawed like a normal human beings. Kunal and Nandini aren't supposed to have emotions, they are not supposed to cry. They should be absolutely shameless and evil like Rajdeep, otherwise Cvs are "glorifying" their EMA. They are not supposed to romance, they are not supposed to enjoy their moments, because then, they are not feeling guilty.
Why the heck will they feel guilty if they have indulged in EMA by their own choice? Kunal and Nandini themselves think that what they have done is not wrong, but they also don't want to hurt Mauli. It's not too hard to understand that.
The thing is that TV audience is just used to White characters like Mauli, or completely black characters like Rajdeep. So it's hard for them to digest two grey characters as leads, who are confused because of their complex emotions. People want Kunal and Nandini to be absolutely shameless like Rajdeep, or a complete mahanta ki murat like Mauli. Otherwise it's glorification according to them.

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What is the definition of flawed according to you and TM?

Is it D*ckholic kunal who believes in mooh maaro everywhere and then call it Ruhani Aarzoo?

Or is it Menholic Nandini who is looking for abuser, rapist, cheater man as her life support?

Otherwise there's a difference between imperfect and abnormal.

Even someone wish to be in open marriage should find the partner with same belief. Out of blue kunal became pro open marriage and started one sided open marriage and people call it just flawed. 😆

Edited by White..Magic - 6 years ago

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Migraine

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Posted: 6 years ago

#65

Because

1. They used the abuse track to whitewash ema

2. They didn't justify abuse as a good thing unlike what they are doing on the topic ema

That's it.

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Migraine

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Posted: 6 years ago

#66

3rd point I forgot to say : because Ema and Abuse are not the same

You can never compare the crimes

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1098676

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Posted: 6 years ago

#67

Originally posted by: White..Magic

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What is the definition of flawed according to you and TM?

Is it D*ckholic kunal who believes in mooh maaro everywhere and then call it Ruhani Aarzoo?
Or is it Menholic Nandini who is looking for abuser, rapist, cheater man as her life support?

Otherwise there's a difference between imperfect and abnormal.

Even someone wish to be in open marriage should find the partner with same belief. Out of blue kunal became pro open marriage and started one sided open marriage and people call it just flawed. 😆

Your comment makes no sense. Kunal isn't a casanova who is mooh maroying everywhere. Neither NandinI is looking for an abuser, rapist husband.

Lolz, when did Kunal become abnormal even if you consider Nandini as one?

Yes, they are flawed characters, who don't recognize their flaws just like us common people.

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sriam

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Posted: 6 years ago

#68

I am appalled by the way society in our country thinks at present.. it shows from the reactions we have for the characters of the show. No wonder domestic abuse is on the rise since its not frowned upon as much as the moral police would frown upon an EMA. Just tell me one thing when a woman is physically, mentally, financially, emotionally and constantly abused by a man does she or does she not have a right to fall in love with another man or move on in life? Or does she have to stay with this man only? We all know that LOVE happens.. its not planned,

yes the two of them i.e. Kunal and Nandini should have moved away from each other before succumbing to their feelings, LOVE does not always mean sleeping with one another, they did not think about MAULI and IT WAS their fault. However every human being has the moral right to choose whom they want to live. If today Nandini and Kunal divorce their respective partners and get married their love wont be frowned upon I am sure. BUT RAJDEEP WAS IS AND WILL BE A CRIMINAL FOR ME.

I donot support EMA but at the same time I completely understand that people fall in love and have right to say NO to any kind of abuse, its their life they can choose whomever they want or not want to stay with

MAULI has been cheated and she as well has all the right to move on. EMA has its consequences as divorce and ABUSE has consequences as jail but in all this what RAJDEEP did was a CRIME.

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Harshawardhini

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Posted: 6 years ago

#69

I was in different about the DV part, infact would skip the episodes if this torturing was shown. I think there is no strong plot for this DV. For example, I was a fan of Saubhagyavati bhava. In that show they showed why Viraj did what he did. He was a psycho lover and a super rich one who controlled both law and society. Jhanvi couldn't get him punished coz police and NGO workers sided to Viraj. Here I couldn't get Rajdeep's nature and why Nandini didn't have backbone/self respect.

So writers failed there.

Coming to EMA, it's not the EMA which gained reaction from me but the betrayal Mouli going to face made me anger. Can't speak for everyone but in my case the character sketch of Mouli is the reason I kind of got emotionally involved. I didn't even think about EMA factor when Nandini DV was shown. I was just skipping the episode. Bad writing.

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Miss-Behave

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Posted: 6 years ago

#70

I started watching when nandini first moved into her new apartment, so I didn't watch at that time.

There have been tons of shows before where we have seen domestic violence as either the main or a sub plot of the show, and so much uproar and disgust has been shown by viewers in discussions then towards the abusive characters, but that wasn't the main track here, with everybody anticipating the main track of the show and busy in analysing the characters, that nobody really cared about this domestic violence track, that doesn't automatically mean nobody felt rage at rajdeep for abusing nandini or people were okay with what was happening to her, its just viewers didn't care about the domestic violence track as it wasn't the main track of the show and we have seen domestic violence in shows loads of times before and we have shown criticism for the abusive character then. Just because people are paying more attention to the main track of the show, which is EMA and discussing that more than when the domestic violence was happening, doesn't mean the audience are fine with domestic voilence. What sheer stupidity is that to suggest such a thing?

And who are you to make such personal assumptions on forum members just for the sake of a story and a character? According to you, forum members discussing and showing less outrage now when the main story of the show on EMA has started compared to when nandini's side plot of domestic violence was happening is proof that people care more about EMA than a woman being abused is a personal attack on forum members, and members here can discuss what ever subject they want without people like you coming along and accusing us of supporting domestic violence over EMA just because we didn't discuss DV enough like we are doing now.

I'm reporting this topic for moral policing, because funny enough, that's what you are doing yourself.

Edited by sammy17 - 6 years ago