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Posted: 6 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: TheMockingBird

I don't think so they presented it very well i was able to relate to her pain especially her miscarriage happened.At that time ppl from neutral audience were giving gyaan that they are not able to relate to her pain as she shuld stand for herself but reality is that it's not easy from domestic violence victim who is abused for 7 yrs to get out such mess and they hv fear to be killed by there abuser.It's just that audience is more able to relate to mauli becoz they hv fear this can happen to them also.



1. I was 1 of tat person & no it was not Gyan. Advising a woman to not tolerate abuse/violence & walk out of an abusive relationship is NOT gyan. Its the truth. Ultimately tats wat has helped Nandini rt? Her walking out the marriage & filing for divorce. This is what even I said. So it was not gyan but the truth.
2. I c'd c her pain but yes I c'd not relate to it. You can sympathize but not every viewer needs 2 actually identify with a character in the show. Its based on a person's personal taste, personality etc. Its not a crime & that doesnt make me an evil, cruel person. Being a strong person I obviously cant relate to a person who cries all the time & puts up with abuse. Either I ll seek my parents' help or police help. Also main reason y its absolutely must 4 every woman 2 b educated & ve some kind of job. This way they r not dependent on the husband & need not tolerate the abuse.
3. audience is more able to relate to mauli becoz they hv fear this can happen to them also
Plz dont assume & make such sweeping stmts. I can relate 2 Mauli coz of the similarities in our personalities. Working woman with hectic job, family responsibilites, slightly bossy Know it All. Not wearing saree, make up. Hate dressing up, dislike cooking... Only addition is I also ve a daughter & my inlaws r not understanding like Mauli's. Mine r extremely regressive. Hence I can relate to Mauli. Not tis ridiculous theory by u tat v r scared tat our hubby ll ve an EMA 🥱
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Posted: 6 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: Angels11



1. I was 1 of tat person & no it was not Gyan. Advising a woman to not tolerate abuse/violence & walk out of an abusive relationship is NOT gyan. Its the truth. Ultimately tats wat has helped Nandini rt? Her walking out the marriage & filing for divorce. This is what even I said. So it was not gyan but the truth.
2. I c'd c her pain but yes I c'd not relate to it. You can sympathize but not every viewer needs 2 actually identify with a character in the show. Its based on a person's personal taste, personality etc. Its not a crime & that doesnt make me an evil, cruel person. Being a strong person I obviously cant relate to a person who cries all the time & puts up with abuse. Either I ll seek my parents' help or police help. Also main reason y its absolutely must 4 every woman 2 b educated & ve some kind of job. This way they r not dependent on the husband & need not tolerate the abuse.
3. audience is more able to relate to mauli becoz they hv fear this can happen to them also
Plz dont assume & make such sweeping stmts. I can relate 2 Mauli coz of the similarities. Working woman with hectic job, family responsibilites, slightly bossy Know it All. Not wearing saree, make up. Hate dressing up, dislike cooking... Only addition is I also ve a daughter & my inlaws r not understanding like Mauli's. Mine r extremely regressive. Hence I can relate to Mauli. Not tis ridiculous theory by u tat v r scared tat our hubby ll ve an EMA 🥱

I never said that it's crime not to relate to character I also said ppl are more able to relate to mauli as she is more like all of us here I m talking why ppl feel for one victim more than other victim .We are different that can't be strong reason not sympathising of particular victim who is more weak than us.So if we will come across some real weak DV victim would our reaction be like this only we can't relate to her so we can't sympathise with her. both are crimes you can't say I don't relate to particular woman so I m not wrong if I remains silent and ignore her sufferings.Secondly ,whether ppl agree or not ppl do relate to mauli more and thinks mauli from POV becoz they never want to imagine themselves in place of mauli.

Edited by TheMockingBird - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: TheMockingBird

That's what i m saying only DD fans made that posts on nandini as neutral audience was busy in chanting that they are not able to relate to nandini as she can't stand for herself .Why sudden toar for EMA where was our morals and jazzbat when woman was shown brutally abused and raped by her own husband.Why were not there were morchas against rajdeep is it difficult to answer?



Rajdeep will suffer, his deeds were shown wrong but KuNan's wrongdoings are being prompted in name of divine relationship, we know Rajdeep will suffer, don't you think we would have opposed a show glorifying rape and domestic violence? Silsila is not going off air because the backlash is not in that level, if the show was glorifying or promoting rape or domestic it wouldn't have completed more than 10 episodes, the point is if you want me to protest, there should be a reason to protest, right? When CVs are not giving a reason to protest on basis of domestic violence, why would I do that? I am not supporting domestic violence, I don't think CVs support it, I don't support EMA but CVs do..

And I guess apart from DSDT, Bepanah fans started watching this show too and Zoya doing paak Rishta riled them up
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: 55sasa55

Stop questioning what people should do or not do. I'm sure you must have said this yourself in this very forum. So practice what you preach. If there is more hatred then it's their opinion based on what they see. Maybe these people came in because they connected more with Mauli's pain than Nandini's. Maybe the way Aditi has been nailing her scenes which make her Mauli more connected, they feel her hurt more and so pour hatred over the one who caused her hurt. That's the success of a capable artist I guess, can't blame people for it.


Tumhari sui Drashti aur Aditi par hi Atki hui ha aur bhai vahi atki rahegi.Well the person who wanted Nandini to get raped and die in shame I don't expect something sensible from such person .So Sekhne ki jarurat apko mujse jada ha
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FruitToasty



Rajdeep will suffer, his deeds were shown wrong but KuNan's wrongdoings are being prompted in name of divine relationship, we know Rajdeep will suffer, don't you think we would have opposed a show glorifying rape and domestic violence? Silsila is not going off air because the backlash is not in that level, if the show was glorifying or promoting rape or domestic it wouldn't have completed more than 10 episodes, the point is if you want me to protest, there should be a reason to protest, right? When CVs are not giving a reason to protest on basis of domestic violence, why would I do that? I am not supporting domestic violence, I don't think CVs support it, I don't support EMA but CVs do..

And I guess apart from DSDT, Bepanah fans started watching this show too and Zoya doing paak Rishta riled them up

I m also saying Silsila is not over yet so will Nandini and Kunal will get their dues.Script and screenplay was bad so it came out to be they glorified the EMA .But seeing cvs bullet train speed of Kunal and Nandini falling for each other and then immediately jumping on revelation track cleared one thing they are more interested in showing after consequences of EMA rather than showing deep emotional bonding bw Kunal and nandini.My point is that DV track was on I didn't see this much range among viwers as I saw for EMA victim I rest my case here thanks
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: White..Magic



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This is a gem. This should be quoted again and again

Ummm. Kaun se thread ki link doon? The one which was made to celebrate death of first wife? Or the one where actress playing first wife was body shammed?

Best part about India Forums is you'll get to see chalti phirti hypocrisy. 😆



This is why i love ur posts 🤣

People talk like saints here...about how bad domestic abuse marital rape ema is...but they were themselves enjoying the fact that the other woman was winning in all immoral ways possible...they celebrated the death of a character because she was being the haddi for the other woman to win...and the fact that they stooped to the level of body shamming the actress(not even the character) who played the wife just because she was playing the Wife character...and yahan dekho... 😆 sahi hai...hypocrisy is the middle name of some people
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Posted: 6 years ago
#57
There was a lot of support for Nandini during the initial days in the forum. There wasn't any particular backlash against dv because the CVs weren't glorifying it with romantic bg music or with divine symbolisms. So everyone accepted that as part of the story and waited for Nandini to come out of the situation, fight for herself, grow confident and independent. But the growth in Nandini clearly didn't happen much and as expected, and the next thing you know, the EMA happened (with all the glorification that caused the backlash). Once the EMA happened, support for Nandini went down.

Another point is also that there weren't many members during those initial days of the show. I guess a lot of members joined in after the EMA was shown to happen full-fledged or after the affair revelation. So some of the disproportionate response is also because of the increase in members in the later phase. I myself didn't comment much in the forum back then but started commenting a lot more very recently.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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I am assuming following are the reasons for the differences in Reactions:

1)Regarding DV of Nandini,Nandini knew R is evil from her early days of marriage and she never trusted her husband where as Mauli trusted and loved her husband for 7 yrs and cheated by him.She loved and trusted her friend from her childhood and cheaated by her


2)Regarding N's DV ,after marriage it all happened infront of her without any cheating involved where as in case of Mauli cheating happened behind her back without her knowledge.

3)Regarding N's DV it is comparativey avoidable by complaining to police by gaining mental strength eventhough it is difficult where as in Mauli's case she didn't even aware of cheating to avoid the situation.

4)DV is wrong and it was shown as wrong but EMA that too behind her back by the people whom she helped selflessly and dedicated her life was wrong but it was shown as divine and destiny

5)DV track when Nandini was not at fault was very short track and overshadowed by Kunal/Mauli saving and helping Nandini and MN friendship where as the process of cheating track was long track and was shown exclusively whole 2 weeks without interruption except for few abuse scenes here and there and cheating track overshadowed ongoing other parallel mini tracks

6)No one was justifying DV in the forum at that time where as DD fans started justifying EMA which aggravated more backlash among the neutral viewers in the forum.

7)People who are facing DV are comparatively less and didn't relate with N to such extent as with M.Whereas People who loves and trusts their husband and friends are in majority in the viewers so they could relate with Mauli.


8)Nandini's characterisation was poorly written and executed from the beginning itself so people couldn't relate to her comparatively.Mauli character has been written and execyted well comparitively from the beginning.


9)Its harsh reality people never sympathesizes with weak people.

10)Many viewers started watching the show much later when N's rescue by M and k started.And R's abuse scenes were so violent to such an extent that many people changed the channel thinking it is sad content and they were not ready to waatch the violence 😆

11)DV and EMA associated with brutal cheating are two different issues so they can't illicit same response in the society.And that too if they execute them with bias glorifying wrong things
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We can't entirely blame the audience when execution,screenplay and writing is pathetic.


I am assuming these are the reasons but i may be wrong😆
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Posted: 6 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: TheMockingBird

I never said that it's crime not to relate to character I also said ppl are more able to relate to mauli as she is more like all of us here I m talking why ppl feel for one victim more than other victim .We are different that can't be strong reason not sympathising of particular victim who is more weak than us.So if we will come across some real weak DV victim would our reaction be like this only we can't relate to her so we can't sympathise with her. both are crimes you can't say I don't relate to particular woman so I m not wrong if I remains silent and ignore her sufferings.Secondly ,whether ppl agree or not ppl do relate to mauli more and thinks mauli from POV becoz they never want to imagine themselves in place of mauli.



SIGH Did u even read my post. I said I sympathized with Nandini but I c'd not relate to her or identify with her. In general even other movies or stories I ve felt sorry for such characters but I cant relate to them. No woman (or 4 tat matter man) should put up with such abuse. Ppl keep saying its not easy, its not easy. I ve read bt 1000s of inspirational women who started their life with 0 in their pocket & r now dng good. You ve 2 start somewhere. And 1 of the main reason y i disliked nandini even before the ema was her getting pregnant. A woman who cant stand up for herself, how the hell was she planning 2 protect the child once its born. In many cases I ve seen tat the abusive man abuses even his children. You cant protect urself & ur bringing another life into this hell.

Above in bold again dont generalize.

I repeat ppl r identifying with Mauli coz most of the women who r here on IF are educated women who r either studying or working & of the newer generation. So they can identify more with a woman similar 2 them in characteristics than a character like Nandini. This is got nothing 2 do with domestic abuse or EMA. Mauli as a character represents the normal avg young women & hence is more relatable!

Finally u cant force ppl 2 sympathize with a character. You may personally empathize with Nandini but many here dont. There r a # of reasons 4 that. Characterization. Story arc/plot. Script. Dialogues. Acting. At that end of the day all these factors help in the audience identifying with a character. Here Mauli's character is well written & hence she is getting better response. Nandini's character is poorly written & hence she is getting negative response.

I remember a show called Sowbagyavati Bhava. Dont know any of the actors but I believe that show also was bt domestic abuse & I remember tat show got good response. Here the writing is poor so audience response 2 Nandini & the abuse is tepid 🥱
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Posted: 6 years ago
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There ought to be some reason behind thr massive backlash against nandini and it is not because of the gender . If the audience couldnt connect with her after the domestic abuse past , their pathetic writing is to be blamed .


The reality is different and domestic abuse is common , so is ema . But on screen , we like to see inspiring stories , characters like mauli ..like it happens in savdhan india..they too are inspiring to an extent ..women face a lot of troubles like forced prostituition , abuse , rape , but they try to come out of it ... With nandini , at max the viewers can sympathize , ideally audience may have wanted to see her transformation post her rescue...not into a strong woman having a.mind of her own , that will.be too much to ask for ..but at least the crying and dependency factor should lessen ...i guess it happened ater rain dance? But after temple scene , back to square. One ...there is abs nothing which the character offers , not one likeable quality in her ..compared to her mauli is an icon . We condemn rape ema cheating abuse and violence against women . The cvs belittled nandini , and domestic abuse , not us..now whats the point of that public shaming scene ? A part of audience will say thats her punishment..thats how bad the writing is..

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