whats the difference between nandini and rajdeep?

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MsChanadlerBong

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Posted: 6 years ago

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The only difference is that we know Rajdeep was dark shaded however Nandini was a surprise. 🤢 Btw Kunal is no saint too.

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Posted: 6 years ago

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Originally posted by: arshi_asya

Adultery is an offence liable to attract capital punishment in Saudi. No one makes this accusation lightly. If the accusation is made by a woman or man, then it is taken into account,, accused is tried & if proved guilty then the accused is stoned or beheaded. Most of the times, it's the man who is convicted for adultery & there are times when women are punished for it too. One princess was stoned for committing adultery in 1977. Confession of having committed adultery or witness to the adulterous act is enough to prove that they have indeed been involved in it.

Unlike in India, in Saudi both men & women are punished for adultery, even if they were in consensual relationship between them. Wife or husband who has been cheated is compensated.

Rape cases are highly biased there though but punishment to the rapist of crime is proved is death. The stigma with rape is everywhere even now, somewhere it's huge, somewhere, it's relatively less.

I know all that. My point was about the fact that adultery is a criminal offence in countries which are backward and un-evolved, like Saudi Arabia. No civilized country can have punishments such as stoning, flogging or cutting off a hand for theft.

Btw men are rarely punished for crimes against women in Saudi, as most laws there are abnormally skewed in favour of men. Women rights activists get jailed for demanding something as basic as the right to drive.

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Anjali

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Posted: 6 years ago

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Originally posted by: krystal_watz

I know all that. My point was about the fact that adultery is a criminal offence in countries which are backward and un-evolved, like Saudi Arabia. No civilized country can have punishments such as stoning, flogging or cutting off a hand for theft.

Btw men are rarely punished for crimes against women in Saudi, as most laws there are abnormally skewed in favour of men. Women rights activists get jailed for demanding something as basic as the right to drive.

I actually disagree. Men are punished for crimes too, that too very often. Even in rape cases, they have too many pre-conditions to consider the victim in the first place.

In most of the cases, both men & women are punished for the same crime even though women is the victim.

In Saudi, the whole point of severe punishment is to make citizens fearful of the consequences, if they dare to do even smallest of crime. A reason why crime rate is lower there is because of the severe punishment. Severe punishment at times lead to lesser crimes, which is why everyone is demanding severe punishment for sexual assault in India.

My Uncle was in Oman for a year & one thing he appreciated was that no one dares to rob or attempt theft since they fear the punishment. He could leave his belongings casually & no one would steal it. And He is a Hindu who had to go there on a project from company.

I don't think severe punishment of every crime has something to do with being civilized or uncivilized.

I agree to the archaic laws there for certain crimes, which needs attention & change.

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Posted: 6 years ago

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Originally posted by: krystal_watz

Bold: I'm sorry, but this is exactly what was being said explicitly by numeorus members on this forum, including the post you supported.

What Nandini did was inexcusable, but that cannot be even CONSIDERED on the same line as vile as rape and domestic abuse.

Rest I agree with you. 👍🏼

As I mentioned, I still don't support thembeing guilty of the SAME crime. Like idk how that came in here. What I'm trying to say is that kunal andnandini.'s actions are gonna scar mauli the same way it did nandini. The part I highlighted in red is why I think that way...

But as I said earlier, noteveryone is entitled to think the same way.y that's just purely what I think about this concept. That's about it

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Arshi_asya: Low crime rates is not a justification for having barbaric punishments. Some punishments don't belong in a civilized society.

There is a reason why crimes happen. The way to eradicate them is to search for the societal factors that lead to crimes. Imposing law and order with draconian punishments is not something a civilized country does.

Women are basically liked jailed inmates in Saudi Arabia. Can you imagine how it would be to be a rape victim in there? I can't even imagine.

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Originally posted by: LoveNakuulMehta

As I mentioned, I still don't support thembeing guilty of the SAME crime. Like idk how that came in here. What I'm trying to say is that kunal andnandini.'s actions are gonna scar mauli the same way it did nandini. The part I highlighted in red is why I think that way...
But as I said earlier, noteveryone is entitled to think the same way.y that's just purely what I think about this concept. That's about it

Someone had brilliantly 'explained' step-by-step why rape and domestic violence are as bad as Nandini's 'crime'. And you supported that post.

Anyway, leave it. Glad to know you don't subscribe to such an extra-ordinary line of thought as is displayed by some people here. 😆

Yes, in THIS case Mauli will be badly scarred no doubt, but this is not the case generally for cheating. Usually cheating happens in relationships which have hit a rough patch. Not saying that makes it justified, but the ramification is usually not as severe as Mauli's is gonna be.

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Anjali

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Posted: 6 years ago

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Originally posted by: krystal_watz
Arshi_asya: Low crime rates is not a justification for having barbaric punishments. Some punishments don't belong in a civilized society.
There is a reason why crimes happen. The way to eradicate them is to search for the societal factors that lead to crimes. Imposing law and order with draconian punishments is not something a civilized country does.

Women are basically liked jailed inmates in Saudi Arabia. Can you imagine how it would be to be a rape victim in there? I can't even imagine.

I think there are crimes which deserve punishment regardless of any underlying reason or any societal factor.

There is an ongoing debate that Hanging as a capital punishment shouldn't belong to civilized society like India, something to which I don't agree.

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Originally posted by: arshi_asya

I think there are crimes which deserve punishment regardless of any underlying reason or any societal factor.

There is an ongoing debate that Hanging as a capital punishment shouldn't belong to civilized society like India, something to which I don't agree.

Hanging is reserved for the rarest of rare crimes, not for something as trivial as theft.

Capital punishment cannot really be compared to outright barbaric and medieval punishments like dismembering.

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VARUNI2014

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Posted: 6 years ago

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Scars r scars whether they r caused by rape or cheating .in both cases people under go same emotional pain ,same trust issues only difference is one is sexual and another is asexual

Only difference is rape on children ..I don't equal it to cheating ...as children come under a diff category and they r innocent and even law ..also even though same rape ..but rape on children is considered grave crime even in USA as compared to adults

kunal is not rapist .in law .let's talk according to law .if we talk disregarding law then I say even nandhini is a criminal .but acct to law she is not criminal.

.but forcing her to sleep with ither men is crime and miscarriage is crimel

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Posted: 6 years ago

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As much as I despise Nandini I wont go so far as comparing her with Rajdeep. Yes she betrayed her best friend Mauli who did so much for her. She is despicable & a pathetic person but no she is not a monster or animal like Rajdeep. I think its wrong to compare crimes. Wrong is wrong & this is not a competition of who is worse.

In legal terms Nandini cant be arrested for betraying her friend whereas Rajdeep can b jailed under rape charges (Marital rape has now been included as rape as per a landmark SC judgement) So even in the eyes of the law Nandini is not same as Rajdeep.

But yeah Mauli should slap her & throw her out of her life. Same with that scumbag Kunal 😡