Was Nandini manipulating Kunal?

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I did not understand the gift giving ceremony because the writing and screenplay is failing to convey what CVs are trying to do or they are trying to sail in two boats.. 1 Nandini manipulating Kunal 2 At the same time Nandini coming out as an angel.. Which is impossible

Nandini told Kunal that she loves him and wants him with her and that his marriage is a hurdle and how she wishes to go to some home with him... See I didn't get the dialog because I was too disgusted.. Anyway looks like the manipulation worked in Kunal confessing his love for her when his wife was sitting right there.. Ah the control

Why I think that they are trying to sail on two boats?

Well because Rajdeep's scene came right after Nandini's manipulation and he didn't even do anything, he was just there to remind audience that this woman is manipulating a man but look what she went through... For the first time I didn't feel bad for Nandini watching those old scenes, I didn't understand my reaction to it maybe because it's past and the woman who went through pain of a failed marriage is urging a man to do the same with his wife... How am I supposed to feel bad for her?

It would have worked but after Rajdeep's exit, Nandini says - Rajdeep will bother me and I should tell KUNAL about it... Not Mauli but KUNAL
Preparing for emotional blackmail?

If you think I am exaggerating, it might be true

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Kunal isn't a small boy to get manipulated and he was the one who tried to find what she feels for him ...and nandini was in drunk state .it wasn't first time that kunal thought about nandini and he pushed nandini not mauli...
And some people here in the forum never felt sad for nandini condition during rajdeep haarasment even before these enite feelings thing surfaced and it's not new to see line like that I dint felt bad her sewing those flashbacks ...
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Originally posted by: -Lehar-

Kunal isn't a small boy to get manipulated and he was the one who tried to find what she feels for him ...and nandini was in drunk state .it wasn't first time that kunal thought about nandini and he pushed nandini not mauli...

And some people here in the forum never felt sad for nandini condition during rajdeep haarasment even before these enite feelings thing surfaced and it's not new to see line like that I dint felt bad her sewing those flashbacks ...



You don't manipulate kids, you cajole them... Since when the word "Manipulation" is used in context of persuading kids? If some people didn't feel bad for her back then its none of my business, I am not feeling bad for her NOW
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I don't know about manipulation because I didn't watch Kunal Nandini scene.. I skip them usually 😆
But about Nandini saying she should tell Kunal, I think its natural that she tells about it to him.. Rajdeep is a creep and can prove dangerous.. So it should be Kunal who has to handle him and not Mouli.
It looked to me that way.. Don't know if they wanted to show otherwise. If they did, then they failed! CVs are confused if they want to whitewash K & N or want to show them as grey..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Deliberate emotional manipulation is not something that Nandini's character would do. It doesn't go with her character sketch. She had a weak moment and she succumbed to it. That's how I saw that as.
As for Rajdeep, I feel that this whole abuse saga was just a plot point to somehow get Nandini into Kunal-Mauli's lives and for Kunal to become the savior again and again. They can use Rajdeep again and again to make Kunal the hero. Otherwise, they wouldn't sideline years of abuse like this and make her jump into another complexity like this. Some people may recover quickly from trauma and bounce back into life but given the magnitude of the abuse that Nandini underwent, I would have expected her to become numb to everything around. Anyways, let's see what Rajdeep will do this time. For now, Nandini's decision to not involve Kunal seems right. But I have a feeling Kunal's sixth sense would bring him there, just in time to save her.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Quite on the contrary it was actually KUNAL who has been emotionally manipulating Nandini since the very beginning. First he goes up to her when she wasnt even willing to look at him ,sits by her side and pressurizes her to admit to him if it was love from her side .Then yet again he goes into her room after the day she punishes herself in the shower and tries to imply what they were doing isnt wrong according to him. After that when she asks for the electrician he lies and says he has already asked him to come but in reality he purposely didnt ask him to come so that she would stay longer in his house.THAT was MANIPULATION . What Nandini did yesterday was finally give in to all the emotional manipulation and admit her feelings-something that he had wanted her to do from the beginning .She didnt coerce or force him to admit his the way he kept requesting her to admit hers. She hasnt manipulated him in ANY way till now and on the contrary has been manipulated herself time and again!
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Originally posted by: _goofyCat_

I don't know about manipulation because I didn't watch Kunal Nandini scene.. I skip them usually😆

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But about Nandini saying she should tell Kunal, I think its natural that she tells about it to him.. Rajdeep is a creep and can prove dangerous.. So it should be Kunal who has to handle him and not Mouli.
<div>It looked to me that way.. Don't know if they wanted to show otherwise. If they did, then they failed! CVs are confused if they want to whitewash K & N or want to show them as grey..



Hey

Screenplay is extremely weak, right? It's not clear what they want to show us, what exactly is the story? Do you think Rajdeep is a kind of guy who will bang her door for few minutes then leave? Doesn't that mean all Nandini has to do is close the door on him?
Nandini was drunk, many people are saying but the drunk person made a firm decision of her life of not involving kunal and Mauli, she could think about how Rajdeep will bother her in future... That wasn't a drunk woman talking, too many loopholes

One more thing I would like to add is that a woman won't call her friend's husband for help, more so when she is in love with him and "trying" to control herself, she'd call her friend and her friend can ask her husband for help and anyway have you seen Mauli punching Rajdeep? The woman packs a mean punch
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Originally posted by: SummerRain7

Deliberate emotional manipulation is not something that Nandini's character would do. It doesn't go with her character sketch. She had a weak moment and she succumbed to it. That's how I saw that as.

As for Rajdeep, I feel that this whole abuse saga was just a plot point to somehow get Nandini into Kunal-Mauli's lives and for Kunal to become the savior again and again. They can use Rajdeep again and again to make Kunal the hero. Otherwise, they wouldn't sideline years of abuse like this and make her jump into another complexity like this. Some people may recover quickly from trauma and bounce back into life but given the magnitude of the abuse that Nandini underwent, I would have expected her to become numb to everything around. Anyways, let's see what Rajdeep will do this time. For now, Nandini's decision to not involve Kunal seems right. But I have a feeling Kunal's sixth sense would bring him there, just in time to save her.



That I know they won't show Nandini trying to manipulate Kunal intentionally writing grey characters is not their cup of tea, so they gave Nandini dialogs to confuse Kunal, how can a drunk person give such a long lecture on a doll and connect doll's life with herself, nonsensical scene
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: DracarysTrio

I did not understand the gift giving ceremony because the writing and screenplay is failing to convey what CVs are trying to do or they are trying to sail in two boats.. 1 Nandini manipulating Kunal 2 At the same time Nandini coming out as an angel.. Which is impossible

Nandini told Kunal that she loves him and wants him with her and that his marriage is a hurdle and how she wishes to go to some home with him... See I didn't get the dialog because I was too disgusted.. Anyway looks like the manipulation worked in Kunal confessing his love for her when his wife was sitting right there.. Ah the control

Why I think that they are trying to sail on two boats?

Well because Rajdeep's scene came right after Nandini's manipulation and he didn't even do anything, he was just there to remind audience that this woman is manipulating a man but look what she went through... For the first time I didn't feel bad for Nandini watching those old scenes, I didn't understand my reaction to it maybe because it's past and the woman who went through pain of a failed marriage is urging a man to do the same with his wife... How am I supposed to feel bad for her?

It would have worked but after Rajdeep's exit, Nandini says - Rajdeep will bother me and I should tell KUNAL about it... Not Mauli but KUNAL
Preparing for emotional blackmail?

If you think I am exaggerating, it might be true

I do not agree with this statement at all. It wasn't a failed marriage because Nandani did anything wrong. It was 100% Rajdeeps fault and this reasoning has some heavy implications of victim blaming. Yeah she had a failed marriage but it wasn't under normal misunderstandings. It was because her husband beat the crap out of her, raped her, abused her every chance he got. She's messed up because of it, she is depressed, and I am not saying it excuses anything but you have to understand that these things manifest in odd ways in every day life. Maybe Nandani is in love with Kunal, may she's not but saying that she's urging Kunal to leave Mauli because of her own failed marriage is over the top and makes no sense given the circumstances.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: music_l0ver036

I do not agree with this statement at all. It wasn't a failed marriage because Nandani did anything wrong. It was 100% Rajdeeps fault and this reasoning has some heavy implications of victim blaming. Yeah she had a failed marriage but it wasn't under normal misunderstandings. It was because her husband beat the crap out of her, raped her, abused her every chance he got. She's messed up because of it, she is depressed, and I am not saying it excuses anything but you have to understand that these things manifest in odd ways in every day life. Maybe Nandani is in love with Kunal, may she's not but saying that she's urging Kunal to leave Mauli because of her own failed marriage is over the top and makes no sense given the circumstances.



I am not blaming any victim the word is not correct, I am sorry, I am not blaming her for her marriage, I am saying that showing her past after her scene where she confessed her love for Kunal didn't make me sympathize with her
As I have written that I didn't understand my reaction to it because in past I always felt bad for her, I just didn't feel any connection to the whole scene, the screenplay and writing was messed up

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