Was Nandini manipulating Kunal? - Page 3

Originally posted by: DracarysTrio

I did not understand the gift giving ceremony

It is a custom to give gifts to someone when they invite us for the first time to their home.

because the writing and screenplay is failing to convey what CVs are trying to do or they are trying to sail in two boats..

They are trying to show same thing which they promised.

1 Nandini manipulating Kunal 2 At the same time Nandini coming out as an angel.. Which is impossible

Every character has their own beauty and flaws and so is Nandini. Though she has flaws but the way she tries to fight with herself makes her the bigger person. Who doesn't have flaws?

Nandini told Kunal that she loves him and wants him with her and that his marriage is a hurdle and how she wishes to go to some home with him... See I didn't get the dialog because I was too disgusted.. Anyway looks like the manipulation worked in Kunal confessing his love for her when his wife was sitting right there.. Ah the control

It was drunk Nandini who couldn't control herself. Ask someone who has never drank in their life to drink for the first time and you will get to know how they behave.

Why I think that they are trying to sail on two boats?

Sailing in two boats means Kunal romancing both Nandini and Mauli, which isn't the case. He is feeling for Nandini but isn't coming close to Mauli because of confusions going in his mind.

Well because Rajdeep's scene came right after Nandini's manipulation and he didn't even do anything, he was just there to remind audience that this woman is manipulating a man but look what she went through... For the first time I didn't feel bad for Nandini watching those old scenes, I didn't understand my reaction to it maybe because it's past and the woman who went through pain of a failed marriage is urging a man to do the same with his wife... How am I supposed to feel bad for her?

Do you know what you just spoke? Do you even know how much a woman suffers when she undergoes physical abuse? Just because she got feelings for someone, are you trying to say she deserved such treatment??? Man!!! come to real world. A woman who faces this goes through a stage when she is the most vulnerable and yes, a helping hand means a lot to her. No one deserves to go through PHYSICAL ABUSE. I repeat no one. I can't even curse my enemy for this.

It would have worked but after Rajdeep's exit, Nandini says - Rajdeep will bother me and I should tell KUNAL about it... Not Mauli but KUNAL
Preparing for emotional blackmail?

Didn't she corrected it? And said I will not tell anyone. And yes, he has been with her at all ups and downs. Whats wrong if his name came to her mind first?

If you think I am exaggerating, it might be true

Again picking one thing that I didn't even mean elaborating it as it suits and attacking me.

First of all let me tell you for a fact that I don't think Domestic abuse or rape victims need sympathy, they are survivors and I have utmost respect for them and I thought moral policing was against forum rules? And let me tell you I don't mind moral policing when I see people chastising TMs who think Nandini deserves the treatment because none deserves it but I didn't even say it nor meant, I wasn't even near the surface of that route, so I don't see how almost everyone is misunderstanding it.

My post was about the flaws in screenplay and dialogs, I didn't consider Nandini's past in it because I was specifically talking about one scene, not the whole show or Nandini as a character but one scene which I think was not executed as it should have been, let me reiterate myself I felt Rajdeep was brought to show that Nandini who just confessed his feelings for someone's husband went through a painful life, but I think it could have been better IF Rajdeep did not leave himself, they could have brought that honesty ka bimari wala watchman to scare Rajdeep away and the whole scene would have made much more sense and impact but because Rajdeep left himself, I felt it was just a silly impact to keep Nandini's character white, which it isn't... It's not about rape or domestic violence but about one scene

And did you forget Nandini even spoke that she needs to fight it alone!!!

Originally posted by: Pari117

And did you forget Nandini even spoke that she needs to fight it alone!!!

Nope, this scene convinced me Nandini wasn't drunk as everyone is saying, she was coherent enough to make sensible decisions

Originally posted by: DracarysTrio

I did not understand the gift giving ceremony because the writing and screenplay is failing to convey what CVs are trying to do or they are trying to sail in two boats.. 1 Nandini manipulating Kunal 2 At the same time Nandini coming out as an angel.. Which is impossible

Nandini told Kunal that she loves him and wants him with her and that his marriage is a hurdle and how she wishes to go to some home with him... See I didn't get the dialog because I was too disgusted.. Anyway looks like the manipulation worked in Kunal confessing his love for her when his wife was sitting right there.. Ah the control

Why I think that they are trying to sail on two boats?

Why do you think she was manipulating? She was sharing her thoughts which if she was not drunk, she would not have done so. Even in real life, when you are drunk you lose control, your inhibitions are lowered. That is why she had no control on emotion and thus was able to tell about her feelings, her desires which every girl wishes Point out to me one person who does not want that. Also, only a person who has experienced loneliness will be able to relate to her. That feeling that you do not have anyone to share your burden is very sad and depressing. She did hint that she loves that person but she knows she can never reach him because its so complicated. She acknowledges that even in that state.

Also, it was not clear if he confessed or not. In my opinion, they were just three meaningless words, which were an afterthought, a habit. They were not for Mauli or Nandini.

Well because Rajdeep's scene came right after Nandini's manipulation and he didn't even do anything, he was just there to remind audience that this woman is manipulating a man but look what she went through... For the first time I didn't feel bad for Nandini watching those old scenes, I didn't understand my reaction to it maybe because it's past and the woman who went through pain of a failed marriage is urging a man to do the same with his wife... How am I supposed to feel bad for her?

I am just pasting what I wrote in my post hoping that it might give you a different perspective. "A person who is abused is never free of her abuser. However far you go , whenever you are faced with him, you become that same weak person. This is what happened to Nandini when she faced Rajdeep. His intentions, his creepiness transformed her back to that same old person but her journey was not in vain. Using her presence of mind, she closes the door on Rajdeep but his presence affects and she break downs. At the same time, Kunal gift falls down to the floor symbolizing that the demons of her past have not been erased completely and because of that burden even if she flies, she will fall down.

She wants to share this with Kunal but then decides that her fight with Rajdeep is her alone and she should not drag anyone into it. This is a very important part of the journey. Only Nandini can break the web of mind games that Rajdeep has built in her over the years and this fight is her alone. No one can help her, not Mauli, not Kunal and till she does not do that, she will never be fully free of him. Its very difficult for an abused person to come out of that, to let the fear of an abuser go but not impossible"

You really need to meet an abused person to understand their plight. Her pain is not because of a broken or failed marriage but because of a wrong partner who has only given her torture. What they had was anything but marriage.

It would have worked but after Rajdeep's exit, Nandini says - Rajdeep will bother me and I should tell KUNAL about it... Not Mauli but KUNAL
Preparing for emotional blackmail?

If you are in a problem, who would be the first person who comes to your mind. Your love or your friend. But in her next sentence, she connects them both because she knows, if she reaches out to Kunal she would be impacting both of them and that is important.

If you think I am exaggerating, it might be true

Originally posted by: DracarysTrio

Nope, this scene convinced me Nandini wasn't drunk as everyone is saying, she was coherent enough to make sensible decisions

personal example de rahi hu! i took 6 pegs of taquila on my trip with colleagues cum friends! opened my heart out, cried, danced, even complained about some of my other colleagues! with an hour and too, i was coherent enough to choose the solo bed in the room, because wount be able to sleep if i share bed with two of my other colleagues...

@Pamk06
No, I don't think she was manipulating Kunal, I know her character won't be turned in a way that she would start manipulating Kunal, that's why I wrote the last line about exaggeration, I just felt that there were too many loopholes and huge gaps to fill considering Nandini went from 0 to 100 in one episode and I was quite confused about her being drunk or not many people say she was drunk many say she wasn't drunk so
Thanks @Maumita for sharing your experience because I think I understand the whole scene a lot better now, maybe Rajdeep or her past shocked Nandini enough to take over effects of alcohol
Thanks again for commenting

As much as I believe Nandini's actions do not show genuine effort to not betray Mauli and is somewhat insincere and irresponsible I dont think she tried to manipulate Kunal into anything... And Kunal cannot be manipulated or coaxed into doing sonething he doesn't want to...he was the one who was behaving like a recalcitrant person leaving the house and then indicating that he wanted N to stop him...and his efforts of trying to stay away from the feelings and being all faithful to M is commendable 👏

Originally posted by: DracarysTrio

@Pamk06
No, I don't think she was manipulating Kunal, I know her character won't be turned in a way that she would start manipulating Kunal, that's why I wrote the last line about exaggeration, I just felt that there were too many loopholes and huge gaps to fill considering Nandini went from 0 to 100 in one episode and I was quite confused about her being drunk or not many people say she was drunk many say she wasn't drunk so
Thanks @Maumita for sharing your experience because I think I understand the whole scene a lot better now, maybe Rajdeep or her past shocked Nandini enough to take over effects of alcohol
Thanks again for commenting

screenplay seems bad because there is no justification for nandini and kunal .