Could makers not make Mauli this perfect?? (DT Note pg. 12) - Page 3

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Alohomora_


And where did she say that? And actually the reverse of what you are saying is happening on the show. M is shown as a devi who does ghar ka kaam even when a full time maid is present and has no flaws at all😳Nandini on the other hand whenever she meets Kunal they show Mouli's mangalsutra, photoframe etc breaking to imply woh ghar todegi future me. What many people are voicing is atleast keep Mauli's character believably nice. Here toh it looks like shes saakshat a devi from heaven and sabko charan chune chahiye unke..She must be having some flaws right? Why not show those flaws instead of making her unrealistically perfect for sympathy sake?



How is Mauli anything like a Devi? She's real and just a very nice human being. She does have flaws and her own demons too. A character doesn't have to be perfect to be loved, you just have to be able to connect to it.

I don't think anyone has said Mauli is perfect.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Y12345

@Alomohora: I didnt say TM said that. I'm saying that cvc might make it like that,

And yes I agree, making her flawed is okay, but this doesnt go well with indian audience because they are quick to judge women.

Tolerating wrong is also wrong but we dont know why she is putting up with R nonsense, and I am judging her for that. If she take a stand, then this will be brave step, braver than supporting this.

Yeah, someone said it, she is the third whell. Uh ok.

Not necessarily. Suhana from Sasural genda phool was flawed and accepted. Maya was flawed and accepted. Idhat toh woh level ka flaws dikhane ke liyekoi nahi bolbraha hain. Just that certain things could be shown differently. Like its okay to have a maid helping with the cooking and other chores as you are going to be very busy as a doctor. Why to show her doing everything even with the presence that of a full time house maid who does absolutely nothing ? Thoda realistic toh rakho. Agar hum flaws dikhayenge hi nahi and will chase the perfect bahu narrative then how will the audience also accept anything different? And no I am not judging N for putting up with R and again thats a personal view because I gave seen it happening with someone close to me and I know and understand why Nandini doesnt seem to have the confidence or self beluef to just walk out. And yes she will stand up to R but since this is a tv serial it will be dragged and kept for later. About other woman/third wheel yes thats what the pisters and promis indicate right? Isme bolne wali kya baat hai?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: jhalak7

Exactly!
This is what they do.
Either make the hero so negative that it becomes impossible to like him later.
Or make the negative character so great at the beginning (ex- Ritika in MATSH)...later make her in to a evil.

I am absolutely sure they will do the same with Mauli's character. At first make her "Devi". Lift her up in the sky. Then when there will be no story to tell. dump her in the hell. Make her bhootni, pishachni and whatever possible.😕 May be later try to justify her action...because the hero-heroin did that to her she is doing this to them. In here Mauli will get 100s of reasons why she will later harm Kunan.

My request is don't make someone so good as later it becomes hard for viewers to hate her. Good just don't turn bad in one day.

At present both Kunal and Nandini is looking like the supporting actors. Sp Drasti is looking like a second heroine.



I really don't get your problem...from which angle this post look like a actor discussion post to you?can't you just stick to characters not dragging actors in each and every post or discussions of yours...first you are targeting kunal and Nandini unnecessary bcs of some of your baseless assumptions which we really don't know going to come true ever or not now you are dragging actors too into the discussion which is not called for a post make for characters not for actors...and about Drashti don't worry even if you want it or not she is the main lead of the show from very beginning or will stay till the end:))
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*



How is Mauli anything like a Devi? She's real and just a very nice human being. She does have flaws and her own demons too. A character doesn't have to be perfect to be loved, you just have to be able to connect to it.

I don't think anyone has said Mauli is perfect.

And I dont see where the TM has asked for Nandini to become a 'devi' to justify Kunan as she is being accused of here? About Mauli that would be YOUR view and this is MY view. I think doing all the household chores and managing clinic in the presence of a full time household maid is UNREALISTIC.The maid does nothing as per the show so why do you even have her in the first place? Its okay to show doctors having house help.. Why make her so larger than life and put an unrealustically high expectation of working women that too doctors that may have to rush to duty any time. Secondly I dont see you having a problem with the insensitive comments on Nandini calling her abla naari and bechaari just bcz shes a domestic abuse victim? Just bcz people like Mouli you will put down Nandini by shaming her with names and labels?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Alohomora_
Suhana is different. Here, it's in the context of EMA. Very different.

It's good to be realistic right? I agree. But how will indian audience be? You yourself are complaining about how N does the work despite having a maid? This is a very minor issue, and yet people are talking about that. Now if M does another mistake, a big less minor, then people will find thousands of reasons to blame her- and justify Kunan EMA.
Hence proved.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Alohomora_


And I dont see where the TM has asked for Nandini to become a devi to justify Kunan? About Mauli that would s YOUR view and this is MY view. I think doing all the household chores and managing clinic in the oresence of f a full time household maid is UNREALISTIC.The maid does nothing as per the show so why do you even have her in the first place? Its okay to show doctors having house help.. Why make her so larger than life and put an unrealustically high expectation of working women that too doctors that may have to rush to duty any time. Secondly I dont see you gaving a problem with the insensitive comments on Nandini calling ger abla naari and bechaari just bcz sges a domestic abuse victim? Just bcz people like Mouli you will put down Nandini by shaming her with names and labels?



First of all you really need to stop labelling me as a typecast. I haven't pulled Nandini down nor have I called her an abla naari. Domestic abuse is a real thing and some women aren't able to get away, that's a known fact.

In regards to Mauli, having a maid doesn't mean women don't like doing their own housework. Anyway, how many times have we seen Mauli do housework? It's not about chores, it's also handling family & relationships. Does Mauli always succeed? Doesn't she sometimes upset Kunal due to lack of time? Has she been able to patch up Dida & her MIL's fight? Is she the perfect child to her mother? No! She doesn't have it altogether right?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*



First of all you really need to stop labelling me as a typecast. I haven't pulled Nandini down nor have I called her an abla naari. Domestic abuse is a real thing and some women aren't able to get away, that's a known fact.

In regards to Mauli, having a maid doesn't mean women don't like doing their own housework. Anyway, how many times have we seen Mauli do housework? It's not about chores, it's also handling family & relationships. Does Mauli always succeed? Doesn't she sometimes upset Kunal due to lack of time? Has she been able to patch up Dida & her MIL's fight? Is she the perfect child to her mother? No! She doesn't have it altogether right?

I havent typecast anyone.I asked a valid question! I didnt see you standing up for Nandini and voice out against labelling her as abla naari or bechaari the way you are standing up for Mouli.Its an observation and a valid one. Both are women with problems of their own kind. How is it okay to label one for being a domestic abuse victim but have an issue when a valid point of unrealistically noble depiction of working women today comes up?
Secondly having a maid doesnt mean the women dont do their own housework but atleast A PART OF IT will be shared by the maids or she is only there to add comic value? Here I see the maid do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING so I will bring that up. She is shown as walking here and there and occasionally offering juice to Dida but nothing else! Juice offer karne ke liye maid kyu chahiye bhai? Woh bhi Mouli hi karde. Doing household work is fine but doing EVERYTHING in the house by yourself when you have a full time maid to help is unrealistic sorry!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Alohomora_


I havent typecast anyone.I asked a valid question! I didnt see you standing up for Nandini and voice out against labelling her as abla naari or bechaari the way you are standing up for Mouli.Its an observation and a valid one. Both are women with problems of their own kind. How is it okay to label one for being a domestic abuse victim but have an issue when a valid point of unrealistically noble depiction of working women today comes up?
Secondly having a maid doesnt mean the women dont do their own housework but atleast A PART OF IT will be shared by the maids or she is only there to add comic value? Here I see the maid do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING so I will bring that up. She is shown as walking here and there and occasionally offering juice to Dida but nothing else! Juice offer karne ke liye maid kyu chahiye bhai? Woh bhi Mouli hi karde. Doing household work is fine but doing EVERYTHING in the house by yourself when you have a full time maid to help is unrealistic sorry!



I haven't read all the posts in this thread. And yes, I do have a preference to Mauli's character and maybe that's why I just asked you how she looks like a Devi? I wasn't attacking you LOL and if you read my post above I said domestic abuse is real hence I'm speaking for Nandini too!

And I just wrote a paragraph about how it's not just about household chores. We have seen Mauli struggle with handling relationships too. My mum had recently got outside help for household chores but she still likes doing it most of herself. Mauli has only been shown cooking once - how can she work in the day when she's a Doctor? That's why they've got a maid. Now how many scenes of the maid do you want to see?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Y12345

Alohomora_

Suhana is different. Here, it's in the context of EMA. Very different.

It's good to be realistic right? I agree. But how will indian audience be? You yourself are complaining about how N does the work despite having a maid? This is a very minor issue, and yet people are talking about that. Now if M does another mistake, a big less minor, then people will find thousands of reasons to blame her- and justify Kunan EMA.
Hence proved.


Thats comparing apples with oranges my friend. What I am complaining about is an unrealistically noble and flawless depiction of working women. Offcourse I will point it out because its hilarious to pay a maid to just come and offer juice to you and do no real work.Kuch toh logic use kare makers! And the people who you are saying are trying to justify it arent really trying to justify it .Probably trying to figure out what goes wrong in such a loving couple's relationship.Thats more from an analysis point of view than an accusation.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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But Alohomora, Mauli works as a Doctor so the maid is probably working at home then right? It's a drama, they're not going to show the maid washing dishes and cleaning the house when they've got a story to tell.

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