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Posted: 7 years ago
#11
teaching forget
it is not tecahing anything
it is aimless show which do not give anything to the society
not even a good simple cute love story.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: ddfanb

teaching forget

it is not tecahing anything
it is aimless show which do not give anything to the society
not even a good simple cute love story.



Originally posted by: Nandini30

After seeing the promo, I feel bad for Nandini when Rajdeep torture her. But whenever I think oh she will fall for Kunal, all my sympathy goes out of the window.
And Kunal's dialogue look so khokla for me. Osul, Mauli you are the best. Kam ka kaaj ka khali dusman anaj ka. This serial is based on KABHI ALVIDA NA KAHENA. So ultimately Kunal will turn a looser like SRK and go in for extra marital affair to fill in the gap.



I simply don't know how they jumped in to a conclusion in the promo?
Whatever going through with Nandini is a crime. It is not a normal condition and this is a common crime around the world against women. Which is going through for a long time. Mauli's abuse is the new one---------but the common thing is both the girls are abused.
In here how could they expect a mindless selfish love story?
A girl's hormone doesn't run so fast like a man's hormone.

A divorced man immediately gets married after divorce. Because he is not abused. But in most of the cases divorced women get scared to get married. Forget about love. A bruised heart can't love. It takes time and a very great guy to cure that bruised heart.

I am seeing no greatness in Kunal. He himself is following Rajdeep. Yes...in a sweeter way but matlab ek. You made a decision when you got married. Keya matlab hai...now you think of another hirl. Sp a girl who is suffering from her past? I mean what is this Kunal "insaan ho yah kasai"? The promo just kills all hope for him. Sp when we see Nandini is so much tortured. How can he expect love from a woman who is struggling to stay alive? What kind of sympathy is this?


I would understand if the story was that Kunal is a widow of her best friend Mauli who helped her with her bad marriage . After the death of Mauli may be couple of years later when Nandini is cured or going through "all men are bas***ds" met Kunal. Who is still single and living with the memory of his first wife and fall in love with him. That would look sensible.
But here...what a shallow introduction.

Insaan hai,,,,,,,,,,,janwar nehi. Ek gaya toh get whatever you get. If not possible best friend ki pati hi sahi? Are you a heartless ungrateful monster?

What is the motto of the writer? Let's kill the unity between women or never help an abused girl because she will snatch your husband?


I can't blame the actors...they most probably heard about their characters. Drasti knew she will portray as a tortured woman. But most probably never thought that yeh kahan se "Kabhi alvida na kehna" type story banegi? As it makes no sense. This immature writer never understood the movie "Kabhi ALvida na kehna" . Doesn't understand the society too. Lagta hai...iska umar saat saal hai! 😕
Was Rani tortured in that movie? Her husband was a busy man and SRK's wife was also a busy woman. Theis situation was different.
None of them were tortured. They were lonely and seeking for love...that is a great field to fall in love.

Idhar toh crime pe crime chal raha hai. Aur aapko yeh "Kabhi Alvida na kehna " kind of idea aya? I mean how insensible is this writer?
The writer is seriously immature. Has no idea of what goes in society with women. Never saw abused women like Nandini in real life. Or never understood the pain.



Edited by jhalak7 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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The best and most honest post on this forum I read till now.
Keeping aside the love for actors playing the roles, for once lets see it only in the perspective of fictional characters though these characters exist in real world.
After watching this serial I wonder which wife would a help a friend even for her life.
And the hard work your wife is doing for you is only because of true love she has for you. But you toss it like garbage and fall for the next gorgeous girl you meet.
Even then I can understand Nandini if she falls for a caring Kunal but I can't empathise with Kunal ever
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Posted: 7 years ago
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OMG so much anger 😲 I am not sure y u feel Mauli is being tortured. Yes Kunal is a little laid back but to call him Nikhamma is taking things too far. So far I guess its barely 1 week since Kunal quit his job. Its not like he has been sitting at home his entire life leeching off his wife. Also its Mauli's fault for taking up more jobs. Who is stopping her from having a heart felt frank discussion with Kunal, explain the financial constraints. Its not like Kunal forced her to work more so that he can relax at home. It was her decision so stop blaming Kunal. Also if u go by same logic what about stay at home women who dont work & depend on their fathers/brothers/husbands to support them. Will u call them also nikhammas?

Reg staying in the same hosp & fight, its just not how it works in corporate world. A single emp cant change the way an org works. Reg Mauli doing all the work, in many episodes Kunal is shown to be helping Mauli. Most of their scenes happen in the kitchen. Mauli's MIL keeps making Mauli to eat & not skip her meals. Reg Sat it was agreed bet Kunal & Mauli that it ll be their ME or rather WE time. Kunal did call up Mauli. It was Mauli who dint turn up at the last min. Wanting to spend quality time with spouse/family is not a sin. In fact Mauli is indeed a workaholic & tats not exactly good in the long run. It ll take a toll on her physical & mental well being. BTW romancing on the terrace was Mauli's idea not Kunal's. Also what makes u assume tat ONLY Mauli cooks. So far they ve shown her prepare BF. Its quite possible tat her MIL takes care of lunch, dinner. Or they do it together. Your post has lots of assumptions without any base evidence!

Reg Kunal-Nandini relationship can every1 please stop passing judgement. The track is yet to start. No1 knows wat the CVs ve in store. So can every1 plz stop cursing Kunal & Nandini as if they are already rolling around in bed. Making such comments r v premature when the show is just 2 weeks old & Kunal-Nandini are yet to become friends or even interact on a regular basis.

This post is taking feminism to extremes. Cooking or taking care of family is not a sin. I do it, scores of women all over the world do it. Yes we take more work. But things are changing slowly at least in urban middle class. And wat bt millions of women who stay at home & dont earn. Should men start complaining y they need to slog, earn for the entire family. Its not a competition. Society is still evolving. This post is too judgemental & hasty...
Edited by Angels11 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Whatever way they justify it...there is no justification for Kunal. By going down the affair route...they are basically justifying that its ok if your wife is too busy with her job that you have an extra marital affair. This thought is super regressive and its true that it happens...but I really hope they don't try and show Kunal in the right.
Also Nandini is a victim. She is in no condition to have feelings for anyone. If anything, being in a relationship at a point before she is completely healed and ready, after knowing what she has gone through, is taking advantage of her. No one can fault her for misplaced feelings, its a psychological way of coping.
From whats being showcased so far, I have a feeling they'll try and justify Kunal/ Nandini and try to justify it as a 'circumstance' and how 'the man couldnt help himself, his wife was too busy for him' and this kind of thinking and glorifying of an affair is toxic.
In shows like this 'packaged' as something different, its important to show different. A story I would like to watch is Mauli & Nandini...two strong women overcoming the odds.
What I'm afraid to see is justification of Kunal & Nandini's love story at the cost of Mauli's and Nandini's character. For too long on tv, the assasination of strong female working women has been going on. Modern thinking career women are showcased negatively, as 'chasing careers' or 'not giving time to their husbands' and so on. Feelings can be wrong, as I said Nandini is in no mental state to be in any kind of romantic relationship, Kunal starting one up would be taking advantage.
What needs to be shown is Nandini getting professional help and support. An abused character having an extra marital affair with her bestfriends husband...its a slap in the face to abused women whose struggles should not be cheapened to being the women having affairs with someone else's. It happens in real life, but its not love. Its taking advantage of someone who is a victim.
I honestly hope to see something different as the star cast is so strong.
Edited by LeMeesh - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: LeMeesh

Whatever way they justify it...there is no justification for Kunal. By going down the affair route...they are basically justifying that its ok if your wife is too busy with her job that you have an extra marital affair. This thought is super regressive and its true that it happens...but I really hope they don't try and show Kunal in the right.
Also Nandini is a victim. She is in no condition to have feelings for anyone. If anything, being in a relationship at a point before she is completely healed and ready, after knowing what she has gone through, is taking advantage of her. No one can fault her for misplaced feelings, its a psychological way of coping.
From whats being showcased so far, I have a feeling they'll try and justify Kunal/ Nandini and try to justify it as a 'circumstance' and how 'the man couldnt help himself, his wife was too busy for him' and this kind of thinking and glorifying of an affair is toxic.
In shows like this 'packaged' as something different, its important to show different. A story I would like to watch is Mauli & Nandini...two strong women overcoming the odds.
What I'm afraid to see is justification of Kunal & Nandini's love story at the cost of Mauli's and Nandini's character. For too long on tv, the assasination of strong female working women has been going on. Modern thinking career women are showcased negatively, as 'chasing careers' or 'not giving time to their husbands' and so on. Feelings can be wrong, as I said Nandini is in no mental state to be in any kind of romantic relationship, Kunal starting one up would be taking advantage.
What needs to be shown is Nandini getting professional help and support. An abused character having an extra marital affair with her bestfriends husband...its a slap in the face to abused women whose struggles should not be cheapened to being the women having affairs with someone else's. It happens in real life, but its not love. Its taking advantage of someone who is a victim.
I honestly hope to see something different as the star cast is so strong.



@red that should be the most important thing for now.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hi. I am new here and this is my first post. Seeing the interesting discussion here, I felt like penning down my 2 cents. I feel it is too early to jump into any conclusions and we have seen too less to make any assumptions. As of now I don't think Mauli is being treated unfairly or that she is getting the shorter end of the stick. Her struggle is real and something that most men and women go through in this world. I feel each person's capacity to 'give' in a relationship is different. It may seem like Mauli is contributing more now, it could be Kunal tomorrow. So I see no point in measuring and comparing.

As for Kunal- Nandini and how they are going to come close to each other, I can't help but feel a little worried that the makers may go down the cliched route. The guy being bitten by the saviour syndrome and trying to find his worth by saving a damsel in distress and thus reaffirming the sterotype that having an independent, self-sufficient and capable woman as wife is definitely something to be proud of but ultimately the man needs to be the saviour-provider-leader in a relationship and will fall for the damsel in distress. And like someone else mentioned on this thread, Nandini is probably too messed up emotionally to figure out right and wrong and Kunal may seem like a godsend to her, having lived with a monster. So Kunal is the one who will end up getting butchered if they go down this route in this manner. I would much rather have Kunal getting drawn to Nandini seeing her grit and determination and her courage to fight the cruelty and injustice happening to her. For that to happen, the makers to need to give us more of Nandini and I am hoping they will. Also, no matter how it happens, it is going to be shitty for Mauli. It's always shitty for the person being cheated on. So we will have to brace ourselves for that.
Edited by SummerRain7 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I watch it for mauli's nandani's friendship, which i know dosent exist actually. otherwise nandani would have believed her friend then n later would not have fallen in love with her husband

But i dont also think that mauli is being tortured. some adjustments all have to make in marriage. if ur partner is out of job you have to pitch in to keep the house running. kunal is more idealistic than realistic. to start up ones own thing it takes a lot of effore. you cant enjoy movies with ur wife who is working to make up for lost salary. i dint like the way he got angry when mauli dint turn up for the movie. guy she is working to make up for ur job loss. And being a doctor one thing is that emergencies come up, thts a rule, kunal being a doctor himself dosent understand this. And secondly why will mauli tell kunal to get a job. its been his dream to start a clinic and she is only supporting him in that.

the show gives a bad example for sure
dont help your friend or any woman coz she will snatch ur husband. secondly i have no sympathies for nandani type people, well ur bestfriend of years told u ur to be husband tried to molest her and you dont believe her n side with ur to be husband you know from a few days . why because love (ROMANTIC LOVE) has to preceed every other love. then she comes to save you n you end up falling in love with her husband
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: SummerRain7

Hi. I am new here and this is my first post. Seeing the interesting discussion here, I felt like penning down my 2 cents. I feel it is too early to jump into any conclusions and we have seen too less to make any assumptions. As of now I don't think Mauli is being treated unfairly or that she is getting the shorter end of the stick. Her struggle is real and something that most men and women go through in this world. I feel each person's capacity to 'give' in a relationship is different. It may seem like Mauli is contributing more now, it could be Kunal tomorrow. So I see no point in measuring and comparing.


As for Kunal- Nandini and how they are going to come close to each other, I can't help but feel a little worried that the makers may go down the cliched route.

The guy being bitten by the saviour syndrome and trying to find his worth by saving a damsel in distress and thus reaffirming the sterotype that having an independent, self-sufficient and capable woman as wife is definitely something to be proud of but ultimately the man needs to be the saviour-provider-leader in a relationship and will fall for the damsel in distress.

And like someone else mentioned on this thread, Nandini is probably too messed up emotionally to figure out right and wrong and Kunal may seem like a godsend to her, having lived with a monster. So Kunal is the one who will end up getting butchered if they go down this route in this manner.

I would much rather have Kunal getting drawn to Nandini seeing her grit and determination and her courage to fight the cruelty and injustice happening to her. For that to happen, the makers to need to give us more of Nandini and I am hoping they will. Also, no matter how it happens, it is going to be shitty for Mauli. It's always shitty for the person being cheated on. So we will have to brace ourselves for that.


@bold... well said. 👏.I too have the same fear. This is a very nasty idea sp for a wife who is so devoted to him , her work and family.

@red...That will be better. After this much troubles in her life that is the only thing she can do...stand up for herself. And you are right for this they need to show us more about her journey. Not the past...the present and the future of her.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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My simple question to you.. Why should this TV serial or any TV serial teach you anything? Why do you look upto a TV serial to teach you moral values? So many films and shows are made based on smugglers, dons, murderers, psychopaths, underworld.It doesnt mean whoever goes to watch them is going to become a murderer, psychopath or drug peddler right? I think the audience is wise and old enough to differentiate right from wrong. Same with this show too. Audience is wise enough to know what is right and wrong. Nobody laps up anything blindly. And most importantly nobody watches hindi TV serials for learning anything. They watch it for entertainment purpose and if it doesnt entertain then then channel change and switch onto another show.. thats how it works. I advice you also to not look upto TV serials for moral life lessons. Read about noble and great people and how they helped the world if you do want to learn good things and lesson in life.

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