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Posted: 13 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: chinuchinu

i request the topic maker not to use such language and make such topics...if u don't like the show just don't watch it its simple ...eijaz is not ugly looking he is playing a role like that of a simple guy of u.p u can't see him in formals here😆 ..i m liking him as he is dressed according to his character here...



umm... When did I talk at all about Eijaz??? I refered only to his character. If you didn't like what I said, please state why, don't make up false statements.
If you carefully read what I said, you will see that I applaud the cast for picking such a show, because they were obviously told that it has a ultimately positive message. Its not their fault that Production and Network opted for cheap tricks to get ratings.
Please don't distort my words. This is directed at anyone who said I called "eijaz" ugly. Not only is that rude, it is untrue. I have liked him from his first role in Kahin to Hoga.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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If I offended anyone, I apologize. I just wanted to vent my frustrations with this show. Let me see if I can explain better.
I was expecting this show to be a certain way, and its completely different. I don't expect all shows to be lovey dovey, but when there is a social message to be delivered, I expect it to be positive at least.

A show claiming to deliver a certain social message (whether it is injustice against women, children, etc) does it by showing a light at the end of the tunnel. There is no light in sight here. All I see is an Achilles Shield.

The Achilles Shield is an analogy, for all that fall (die or fail) because they are told that they will. It is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Those that face this shield, live in fear of being unable to attain their dreams. These dreams are illustrated on the shield, and held just out of reach. The hopelessness of the situation, and the effect of seeing these dreams, holds them spellbound, and in the end, that is what kills them. The fact that these dreams mean so much, and that they live in constant apprehension of never being able to attain them. Achilles was a strong man, but in the end it was a single arrow, aimed at his heel that ended his life. The shield was powerless to protect him. The self-fulfilling prophecy (that no one can get past the shield) was exposed to be the cheap trick that it was. A cheap trick, meant to keep all that opposed Achilles in fear of his prowess. Any man (or woman) who claims that a woman is powerless, deep inside, know they're lying. They know that this custom of blindly following is as tenuous as it should be. The minute women stop following, and stop expecting others to follow, is the minute when oppression comes to an end.

In this show, the prophecy is that women are weak, and powerless against the decisions men make for them. The women hear this message, and bow down.
I don't have a problem with this show depicting such a prophecy. Although society has evolved a lot when it comes to gender equality, there is still a looonngg way to go.

My problem with this show, is that there is no recognition that this message is wrong, or at the very least, that some disagree. The women quite sedately accept this depiction of society. And although this message may have been true (and continues to be true in certain rural parts of the world), there is no reason to be portraying it on television, with no hope of bettering things. There should always be an ultimate win in sight. And I don't see one. Saroj's husband is no prize. His every action makes him more distasteful to me. And Saroj's every benign smile makes me cringe. This is this poor dutiful daughter's life? Doesn't she deserve more? Or will she only have more in her dreams? Do we really live in a world, where watching a woman quietly accepting every wrong, is entertaining?

Edited by Charishma - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: Charishma

If I offended anyone, I apologize. I just wanted to vent my frustrations with this show. Let me see if I can explain better.
I was expecting this show to be a certain way, and its completely different. I don't expect all shows to be lovey dovey, but when there is a social message to be delivered, I expect it to be positive at least.

A show claiming to deliver a certain social message (whether it is injustice against women, children, etc) does it by showing a light at the end of the tunnel. There is no light in sight here. All I see is an Achilles Shield.

The Achilles Shield is an analogy, for all that fall (die or fail) because they are told that they will. It is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Those that face this shield, live in fear of being unable to attain their dreams. These dreams are illustrated on the shield, and held just out of reach. The hopelessness of the situation, and the effect of seeing these dreams, holds them spellbound, and in the end, that is what kills them. The fact that these dreams mean so much, and that they live in constant apprehension of never being able to attain them. Achilles was a strong man, but in the end it was a single arrow, aimed at his heel that ended his life. The shield was powerless to protect him. The self-fulfilling prophecy (that no one can get past the shield) was exposed to be the cheap trick that it was. A cheap trick, meant to keep all that opposed Achilles in fear of his prowess. Any man (or woman) who claims that a woman is powerless, deep inside, know they're lying. They know that this custom of blindly following is as tenuous as it should be. The minute women stop following, and stop expecting others to follow, is the minute when oppression comes to an end.

In this show, the prophecy is that women are weak, and powerless against the decisions men make for them. The women hear this message, and bow down.
I don't have a problem with this show depicting such a prophecy. Although society has evolved a lot when it comes to gender equality, there is still a looonngg way to go.

My problem with this show, is that there is no recognition that this message is wrong, or at the very least, that some disagree. The women quite sedately accept this depiction of society. And although this message may have been true (and continues to be true in certain rural parts of the world), there is no reason to be portraying it on television, with no hope of bettering things. There should always be an ultimate win in sight. And I don't see one. Saroj's husband is no prize. His every action makes him more distasteful to me. And Saroj's every benign smile makes me cringe. This is this poor dutiful daughter's life? Doesn't she deserve more? Or will she only have more in her dreams? Do we really live in a world, where watching a woman quietly accepting every wrong, is entertaining?


Your topic is valid and it seems ridiculous that it would offend anyone.

I don't know if there is going to be a twist coming up soon but right now it seems as if Saroj is going to play the ideal bahu - a woman who helps out in the household, keeps her husband and in laws happy, and says very little. And this concept of the traditional ideal bahu is extremely messed up and it's sad to see the shows promote it and send a message that this is how it should be. Rather than wanting Saroj to fight, it seems like we are supposed to admire for her enduring everything because that shows "strength". To me that's not strength, it's being a part of an abusive relationship.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I concurr, this show is regressive, abusive and pathetic to the core.

Not sure what they are trying to sell here, but its definately not entertainment. And the last time I checked this wasnt tagged as some reality show to show the audience how pathetic and low some ppl in this world can be. And entertainment factor there is none. It is soo epically cliched which sucks the novelty out, there is hardly any chemistry bwt the characters, and there is just no story.. such a been there done that theme of one father raising a million girls who all need to be married and lets watch their boring trials and tribulations.

The lead actor whose comback was much emphasized has proven so be very dissapointing. No offence, but Eijaz looks 40+ more like 45, not sure of his age, and the girl looks waay younger than him and I wont even get started on his character.

If they want to show something novel, lets see Amrit or whatever his name is get exposed and the girl wanting divorce because that is Exactly how one should deal in this situation, not dotingly wait for him to realize his mistakes and play sati savitri...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I was watching this show with my mom and I also reacted like u did.. BUT my mom explained me that they are showing reality, not every marriage is lovely dovely AND like other tv serials where the hubby us sooo loving etc. THIS show shows us realty, We living in abroad cant imagine things like this but in countrys like India this happens often.
AND imagine a father with 5 daughters, aaj kal rishta dhoonda na bohat mushkil hai, this is the way it is.
And I thing its good that they are showing us some reality, becuz there are lots of tv serials where its all love and big house and loving sweet hubby THIS also gives the young girls a wrong image about marriage etc. its not always heaven but sometimes it can be a hell.
BUT i also agree with u that they shouldnt show a hubby chancing suddenly becuz that also doesnt happen in real life, they have to show the female being strong. BUT we woman DO a lot for our marriage, we think about our parents, so if saroj is going to take a the crap of amrit and his mom then it will be for her father and her sisters. WIch duaghter wants 2 give her parents tension and a divorced sister is always a problem for other sister to get married. THis is the way the system is in Asian countrys.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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You are speaking the truth. Even I am highly disappointed with the show and how it has turned out to be. Regressive is word! I really didnt think when i first started watching it that this show will be so backwardly intigrated.
It is actually just glorifying such crap like Husband spending the wedding night with his mistress while coming home and slapping the new bride in the morning, being a parent of girls will give you the reason to be permanently obliged to everyone else as if they were your masters, and all the other points you laid out about the show are just perfect. And then to think that it is aired at such a time instead of a late night slot that it deserves. Hell, this show is degrading women in every way.

Yes I too feel bad for the actors here. Their talents are getting wasted.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: khushi_007

I was watching this show with my mom and I also reacted like u did.. BUT my mom explained me that they are showing reality, not every marriage is lovely dovely AND like other tv serials where the hubby us sooo loving etc. THIS show shows us realty, We living in abroad cant imagine things like this but in countrys like India this happens often.

AND imagine a father with 5 daughters, aaj kal rishta dhoonda na bohat mushkil hai, this is the way it is.
And I thing its good that they are showing us some reality, becuz there are lots of tv serials where its all love and big house and loving sweet hubby THIS also gives the young girls a wrong image about marriage etc. its not always heaven but sometimes it can be a hell.
BUT i also agree with u that they shouldnt show a hubby chancing suddenly becuz that also doesnt happen in real life, they have to show the female being strong. BUT we woman DO a lot for our marriage, we think about our parents, so if saroj is going to take a the crap of amrit and his mom then it will be for her father and her sisters. WIch duaghter wants 2 give her parents tension and a divorced sister is always a problem for other sister to get married. THis is the way the system is in Asian countrys.




i agree with u...but it is very early to say anything about the character of saroj may b after some time they will show her fighting against all this...may b amrit will change for a good but slowly...

@the topic maker i just said don't see the show if u don't like it...m also fan of eijaz only watching the show for him😳...i have seen evryone's views but it is too early to say anything slowly i hope things will change i don't think saroj will tolerate things beyond limits... making such topics will lower the interest of viewers so just requested u dear nothing else...
Edited by chinuchinu - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Nice to see Eijaz's name on everyones lips 😆😆😆 makes a change from Sarla on them(Amrit's) 🤣...nothin is wrong with the topic, my argument was with the person who called Eijaz ugly, u cant say that about anyone, especially when a person is hidin behind a computer and makin nasty comments..the show does portray what happens in real life and it is nice to see a show not pretendin to girls that marriage is a fairytale because it isnt, As for Amrit well, we can't love him, we can't hate him, Eijaz is doin a wonderful job and i love him loads 😃 It is nice to see him in a serial that isnt so typical and it a challengin role for him, remember his screen name is bad, he is a sweetheart and his fans on here who also on facebook will agree what a sweetheart he is how he interacts when he is free, many actors today don care on fans but Eijaz adores his fans the way we adore him
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Posted: 13 years ago
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^^i agree with ur points...in real life this does happen...u wil b surprised... the guy does sumtyms hav sum1 else in his life wen he's marrying the girl...so wt they r showing is typical...its nt completely UNREAL

"My name is Sheila, Sheila Ki jawaani.. I'm too sexy for you, mein tere haath na aani".

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Yuvika_15

^^i agree with ur points...in real life this does happen...u wil b surprised... the guy does sumtyms hav sum1 else in his life wen he's marrying the girl...so wt they r showing is typical...its nt completely UNREAL

"My name is Sheila, Sheila Ki jawaani.. I'm too sexy for you, mein tere haath na aani".


to whom u r dedicating this song??

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