EPISODE 3: DOWRY - Discussion (Page 7) - Page 4

wow shru thanks for the thread😊

Satyamev jayte is amazing show and brilliant initiative by Aamir. 👏

Shru u and other forum members deserve clap for this thread 👏👍🏼

Very well sid people ... parents can't even talk abt normal issues like sexuality ... if u have a kid at some point he will get aware of his body and then abt other sex .. ignoring this issues dsnt help . And yes we wld rather talk abt saas bahu than abt this issue.

attitude of moving on ... another sad point .. if a person goes though abuse /assault or other trumatising experience .. he is just supposed to forget it and move on ... no concept of therapy , alternate healing .. counseling .. no nothing ... just forget abt it , move on , dont mention it to any one ... and get married . How does getting married solve the problem ?

Hey Shruti. Thank u for this thread. I seriously do not know whether to get caught in d wave of euphoria this show has created or to detach myself from all d emotions dis show wrenches out from its viewers and take an objective stand. Anyway I do think Aamir should be lauded for providing a platform where issues like female infanticide and child sexual abuse are discussed with a rare sense of dignity. I mean yes we all know that India is beset with problems. We were and are, as educated individuals, all aware of d ills of society. But we tend to not discuss them. Why should we when Sachin's straightened hair and Aiswarya's weight issues r more important to gossip about rite? For this I salute Aamir. Also his team has done extensive research and the way the show mixes human emotions with bare facts is indeed remarkable. I had a sense of deja vu when Harish came on d show yesterday coz he is a very vocal guy and vociferous in his defense of gay rights in India. Having watched him debate on NDTV's We the People, his emotional story on Satyamev was a surprising antithesis. Bravo to all those people who shared their experiences of child sexual abuse. India is home to a large number of paedophiles and this is just d tip of d iceberg. I just wish d show could have touched on d topic of incest. In many cases of child sexual abuse, d perpetrator of dis crime is a close relative enclosing fathers, grandfathers,chachas,chachis et al. Too taboo perhaps? I end my ramble by writing about 2 debates i witnessed on TV last night. One: Zoom TV's expose on how much Aamir gets paid per episode for Satyamev Jayate. A mere Rs 3.5 crores per episode. Two: The debate on NDTV's We the People last night was on how St. Stephen's College, University of Delhi plans to introduce a 40% quota for MEN in their admission process. :)

i reali liked the 2nd episode...a very impt point was highlighted... wer we saw the mother of the victim express her regret of not listening/believing her son and worrying abt her sis... 1 thing i wud hav liked 2 hav put fwd 2 tht mother if i was sat in the audience, tht why wen he told u, didnt u jus try avoiding the man spending time with ur son... it obv indicates tht wt she sed abt "fearing ruining her sis life etc" wasnt the real reason, the reason was tht she didn't believe her son... her reasons didnt justify her actions at al... a big disappointment... it means a lot for the child 2 hav forgiven his mother... 11 yrs he went thru hell while the mother did nothing yet make excuses! a big disappointment 4 tht mother..and al those out there tht choose nt 2 do anything abt it..abuse doesnt necessarily hav 2 happen outside the house...it can b happening indoors..thts y i feel mothers shudnt leave their kids alone with any1... be it an aunty or an uncle...its jus not write... also as aamir mentioned they shud assure the child tht he/she can speak 2 their parents without worrying they wont b believed!

Loved the eposides.

But there is already confusion as to exactly what the bill proposes to do, especially around the 'age of consent' clause which has now been dropped from the bill. As per that clause, for children between 16 and 18 years, it was first necessary to consider whether the child had consented to the sexual act before the law could be applied. So basically you can vote but at 18 but can't have sex? Is this bill provoking criticism at preventing young people from having sex outside marriage. Irrespective of the age controversy, there is no doubt that the law will be the first big step in changing the mindset of the people who needs for children and adults to speak out against child sexual abuse and report offenders. Even parents who are willing to talk about it hesitate to take legal action...

I am commenting first time in this thread...all though I have watched satyamev jayate from the first show itself. here's my thoughts:-

Having been born and brought up in the UK, the topic of child sexual abuse was not new to me,I have heard and read a lot of stories in newspapers and magazines and even on the english news channels. I agree very strongley with the fact that India definatly needs to have laws or some kind of law for this issue...In the UK there are laws for this and the maximum prison or jail sentence is 14 years,not only that their name goes onto a rejester which means that they are not alowed near children at all..and if they themself have children then they have to be supervised when with them.
I really hope and pray that India sanction a law against this crime.

I really liked the workshop Aamir did with the children every parent always has a worry as to how to explain such things to children and Aamir showed exactly how to go about it, and whats more he explained to the children when it is not wrong like when their parents bathe them. Again going back to the country where I live,here In the UK we get taught in school at the age of 13 by the form tutor,we get shown visuals like Aamir showed and also read and understand case studies about it...this is soo good because it make a child aware of what is right and wrong.

Two things I would have liked to see Aamir talk about in the show, 1. female abusers and secondly grooming...meaning that the abuser bulids up trust with the child from a young age and then abuses them but the child thinks that what ever is happening is right...there is a show in the UK a daily serial and in that they showed this fictional story through a girl of 16 years she was abused by her stepmother's boyfriend (her dad had passed away when she was young) since the age of 10..he built up this trust with her giving her presents and compliementing her etc..to the extent that she thought the abuse was love and that he was in love with her..it was only when her stepmother found out that she called the police and put an end to it...the girl was physically and pyscologically abused. this was just a fake story shown in a daily english soap opera but I have read in the news of this happening in real and seen in the news also.

I applaud the makers of the show and Aamir for taking up this topic...its disgusing,immoral and ilegal...I felt so much for the victims show in the episode...Harish's expreience made me cry and I couldn't beilieve that his mother did not beilieve him and was more concerned aout others...had she beileived him when he first told her he wouldnt have to suffer for all the years he did. Hats off to Cinderella..a true inspriation to victims of sexual child abuse... I loved her attitude...

I understand why people are so against sridevi being brought into the show but the smile and shyness on Harish's face made me smile and be happy for him..although in my opnion they could have shown a video of her giving him the message but at the same time her signature on the letter will make a much needed difference as will everyone elses.

The best line of the episode for me was from the physcologist👏 'Respect Behaviour Not Age'

I hope I have not hurt or offended anyone in my post..I thought it would be nice to share the scenario in another country...

Looking foward to the next episode..curious to know what the topic is.

@iloaHardy: Thanks for the write up of the second epi!

This is such a sensitive topic. Me being mother of two kids.. it has been hard for me to watch that epi yet (it is recorded and beckoning me) :)

I will watch it in a day or so… such a subject totally makes me sick to the stomach.. just because such things plain right shouldn't happen to kids. We (generic to any adult) are adults we should be protecting our kids not molesting them! Imagine the kids look to any adult for protecting.. and we hear of people we worship that do such acts.

I will comment in detail after watching the show but would like to point out that in India these issues have been of concern for a long time but have never been addressed. Also young kids .. as young as 2-3 grade should be guided that NO ONE can touch your private body parts.. this is something that is taught in schools here (US) since their first grade.. They have been told that and taught what are privates and emphasized on the privacy. I think it so much needed to make kids understand it is ok to tell someone (anyone) if there is something that is going on.

I know I am going to have goosebumps watching this epi.

Originally posted by: kumarC

yes these types of issue really exists in society..
I myself witnessed on exposing a school teacher who really involved in such kind of activities to whom he was giving private tuition and started doing such nasty activities to school childs.
He was caught ,insulted and was transferred to a new location.
But the most important part was some parents didn't come and admit the fact that child had been abused so that he would have given a strong punishment.
This is due to the social fear which don't permit them to expose..

That's a really big issue in India... People care more for society rather than the victim. It's kind of double victimization. Our society is not very sympathetic towards victims... & everyone is like this whether people in the system or general public.
Rape victims also undergo a similar treatment. It's a sad reality that nobody is sympathetic towards women & children in such types of cases.