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Posted: 13 years ago

#31

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I haven't watched Crime Patrol honestly but I don't really see the parallels with SMJ cuz SMJ doesn't require a script in the same sense...Crime Patrol appears to be showing re-enactments about a lot of crimes that have happened and creating awareness in that sense.

But SMJ is taking each topic as a whole and analyzing it from EVERY angle...yes, Aamir's star power and the outreach of this show is a huge plus point for it no doubt but to me when I watch this show, it's not the "star power" that hits me strong but the way the entire issue is PRESENTED...

Ultimately the goal is similar...and that is to create awareness...and if it's done in a genuine manner, then the more shows on it the better.

I have seen Crime Patrol and have to agree with Anu. Both the shows are trying to create awareness in their own genuine way.

@Bold...That is what struck me after watching the 1st episode. The show has star power unlike crime patrol (crime patrol is extremely popular even without star power ) that could help in making the show more successful in terms of outreach, creating awareness, possibly making some amendments in law & order with Aamir himself taking the initiative.

@ Star power ...Exactly what I felt too...by the end of the episode I was overwhelmed by the content and not that I got to see the Star Aamir hosting a reality show.

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-Aarya-

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Posted: 13 years ago

#32

Originally posted by: kuls11

Aarya I just jumped in to reply. Hopefully not rude. Most of these issues are quite old and definitely has been covered before But that will not take genuineness of this effort atleast.

Just for example in Jessica Lal case every proof got distorted in lower court more than 20 live witness vanished or changed their testimony in end. All accused were acquitted because of lack of evidence. Candle march in delhi, chandigarh SMS revolution T shirts literally create a strong mass movement which not only led to justice after 11 years of her death. As far as I remember that march was considered very filmy then and sort Range basnati style was mocked by those were somewhere involved with strong polticial and business connection. Manu sharma father had to resign after that too.

Another strong proof was mass revolution India had during reservation,. which was actually one movie inspired. Noone in India thought that student would stand against reservation but they did..for long AIIMS IIT..most of all institute student went on hunger strike agsint reservation'Those who were part of it know it was hugely Rang de basanti inspired movement'.It was actually considered moive inspired movement I know It failed'I agreed but they tried'

So if aamir said do mail president agsint that case 7 year old if 100s and million mail.write petiiton it might work..it might not...but its worth give a try...

LIke in USA there was a law againt transvaginal sonogrpahy in Virgina recently which was about was about to be become law and was stopped because of petitions and extreme movement agaisnt it'

We cant say it will never work, we just have to try, it might not work it might but we will never regret we never tired for some good cause.

And I strongly believe in one theory if water can make mark on rock, constant attempts can do anything. A small attempt like these does make difference, they had in past, they might in future

Kul, I agree with you completely and I have never doubted in the power of people. And surely awareness is empowering but than awareness without action is worthless! My point is how do you make a difference, how do you change the thought process of the people who live in fear...

I give some much credit to people like Aamir who are trying to make a difference by some actions vs others are spending hours just talking about it :(

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Posted: 13 years ago

#33

Originally posted by: -Aarya-

Kul, I agree with you completely and I have never doubted in the power of people. And surely awareness is empowering but than awareness without action is worthless! My point is how do you make a difference, how do you change the thought process of the people who live in fear...

I give some much credit to people like Aamir who are trying to make a difference by some actions vs others are spending hours just talking about it :(

Thanks for agreeing, Arya

Thats where I replied to it, how anyone can create difference. By constant educational programs , constant attempts like this, mailing political entities, spreading awareness to overcome their own fears. Even you know Iranian revoution agsint Ahmeddijad was twitterzied one. When any movement goes actually become mass movement(with social medium this is easier than before for common man), it automatically exponentially decrease the fear of every individual associated with it. How did I.. I was part of few movement I mentioned...above and few of them failed few sailed

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Neeta

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Posted: 13 years ago

#34

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I haven't watched Crime Patrol honestly but I don't really see the parallels with SMJ cuz SMJ doesn't require a script in the same sense...Crime Patrol appears to be showing re-enactments about a lot of crimes that have happened and creating awareness in that sense.

But SMJ is taking each topic as a whole and analyzing it from EVERY angle...yes, Aamir's star power and the outreach of this show is a huge plus point for it no doubt but to me when I watch this show, it's not the "star power" that hits me strong but the way the entire issue is PRESENTED...

Ultimately the goal is similar...and that is to create awareness...and if it's done in a genuine manner, then the more shows on it the better.

There is certainly no parallel between the two shows, and that's not what I was trying to say either. My point was that I feel CP to have a touch of reality, that SJ lacks. I know the format of the shows is different but SJ could have incorporated a little more realism by situating it in a place that connects to your average middle class man - much like the NDTV's 'We, the poeple' episodes. They conduct their discussions in colleges, in front of places like India gate, common places like connaught place and Juhu beach etc. When I saw the prologue, I actually thought that the episode was shot on that beach itself, not a cozy little studio that gives 'Late-night-with-David-Letterman' vibes. Given that the format of the show has certain constraints, it was the least that could be done.

I did like the show for it's brave initiative and of course, it's outreach - something none of the awareness based shows have managed to achieve. I'm not criticizing the show for having that, merely pointing out the fact that other shows with a similar goal do exist, and according to me, are better (only my opinion)

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AreYaar

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Posted: 13 years ago

#35

Neetz, so your irritation is mainly with the studio?😆...that a portion of the show is on a set?

But I think it suits the format cuz it's not really a travelogue or documentary either...he's got a mix of inside and outside...he takes you out to the actual locations too and then lets you hear the stories from the ppl themselves...again the set is just window dressing...it is the people and the issues that stand out most to me honestly speaking...I can't imagine what difference these stories would have made to me if they were narrated in outside locations or in the homes of these victims...them talking about it is what hit me hard.

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Neeta

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Posted: 13 years ago

#36

Originally posted by: AreYaar
Neetz, so your irritation is mainly with the studio?😆...that a portion of the show is on a set?

But I think it suits the format cuz it's not really a travelogue or documentary either...he's got a mix of inside and outside...he takes you out to the actual locations too and then lets you hear the stories from the ppl themselves...again the set is just window dressing...it is the people and the issues that stand out most to me honestly speaking...I can't imagine what difference these stories would have made to me if they were narrated in outside locations or in the homes of these victims...them talking about it is what hit me hard.

Now, you can't dress up a below-poverty-line man in an Armaani suit, put him on TV and then claim he suffers everyday, can you? You might find that believable but it would be hard for me to digest. What I'm trying to say is, you gotta show reality the way it is, even without sugarcoating the medium.

Of course, you connect with things differently than I do, so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that. Locations would have made a huge difference, IMHO.

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AreYaar

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Posted: 13 years ago

#37

Originally posted by: heroin.

Now, you can't dress up a below-poverty-line man in an Armaani suit, put him on TV and then claim he suffers everyday, can you? You might find that believable but it would be hard for me to digest. What I'm trying to say is, you gotta show reality the way it is, even without sugarcoating the medium.

Of course, you connect with things differently than I do, so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that. Locations would have made a huge difference, IMHO.

But where did they glam up the victims for the show? I didn't catch any Armaani clothing unless I missed something...they were all dressed simply only...I honestly don't see how else this reality could have been shown...what did he "sugarcoat"? THAT was sugarcoating?😕...the epi wasn't about poverty...let's see what he does with the actual epi on poverty...the issue in this case didn't really require any on-location segments...and btw didn't they show that vegetable vendor from the streets? Did they try to dress her up in an Armani and sugarcoat her life?

Yes I guess we have to agree to disagree cuz I found the material to be hard-hitting anyways and it didn't matter how it was "dressed up" according to me.

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Jia

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Posted: 13 years ago

#38

Very well put, without-fathom! 👏 ( hmm without-fathom 🤔 does it have something to do with the movie "Megamind" by any chance? just trying to remember where have I heard that phrase before 😆 )

I can't write much right now but Aamir Khan had me on the title track only 😆 and the show didn't let me down either. Absolutely brilliantly executed,well balanced and emotion stirring, don't know about others but I for one was crying every two second of it. 😆

I remember watching an episode of Crime Patrol about such an issue too, where they actually showed, I mean not real "actual", but they showed a case, a story about unborn fetuses being aborted and thrown away by their parents in plastic bags in a dump and the dogs were sniffing them I don't even know how to describe the feeling you get seeing such stuff really, its just inhumane and sad to say the least!

Not to compare the two shows or anything btw, both of them seem to do their work well on their own places of spreading awareness..

So, I'd say commendable and effective! 👏

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Niyati

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Posted: 13 years ago

#39

That was one amazing post to read. I have so many thoughts and they are not so organized because I am still so excited but still I will try.

You know I was really excited hearing that he is doing a show because from the movies he make, I knew that whatever he makes, he will give his heart and soul to it and so I was really looking forward to it...but when I heard the concept of the show, I was not sure if I will really like it because there have been many shows like those and I am certainly not interested in watching those shows. Yet I was still excited knowing it was Aamir Khan behind this project😛

So I tuned into it yesterday and man, I certainly so was not disappointed and if anything, I have more respect for this man. It's true there are many shows like this but what makes this show different is the way it is presented out that it directly touches our heart. Aamir is not trying to be mahan here being doing this show but just an ordinary Indian citizen who is asking himself and all his fellow citizens to ask themselves if what is going is what we want, if that is the India we really love...and I just love how he grabs us into thinking over the topic he discusses. It's not about taking over the power over someone else...it's about taking power over ourselves and for once reflecting what our actions like this might do to ourselves, our community, our society and our nation in future. The entire connection of how it is necessary to change the present in order to redeem the past and better our future is just amazing. How he moves from one area to another area in order to dig out the truth and connects them to beautifully to the topic of the episode. And how he made sure to leave no stones unturned to answer any questions that might be running to our heads as audience.

I also loved how the audience could voice out their opinion in this forum unlike all the other forum-type shows that I have seen, where the audiences are just used as show-piece.

I don't know what I loved the most about the show, but I just loved the simplicity in this show and touched my heart, made me cry, feel the pain that might be going on today, right now in some part of India. And I don't think this would have been possible if the intention behind it was wrong and there was no heart, passion, and soul into the show. I cannot stop saying this but I really do appreciate Aamir and the entire team of SMJ so much for putting their heart and soul into making this show.

Just amazing show and after a long time I found a show that I feel like talking about. I love it.

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Neeta

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Posted: 13 years ago

#40

Originally posted by: AreYaar

But where did they glam up the victims for the show? I didn't catch any Armaani clothing unless I missed something...they were all dressed simply only...I honestly don't see how else this reality could have been shown...what did he "sugarcoat"? THAT was sugarcoating?😕...the epi wasn't about poverty...let's see what he does with the actual epi on poverty...the issue in this case didn't really require any on-location segments...and btw didn't they show that vegetable vendor from the streets? Did they try to dress her up in an Armani and sugarcoat her life?

Yes I guess we have to agree to disagree cuz I found the material to be hard-hitting anyways and it didn't matter how it was "dressed up" according to me.

You didn't get my comparison there. What I was actually trying to say is that you can't sugarcoat the presentation of an important/relevant/hard hitting truth of society and then claim that it has become a nationwide menace. The below-poverty-line man symbolized the issue (=female foeticide) and the Armaani suit - the dolled up presentation.

Anyway, to each his own. *peace* \/

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