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@allizzwell

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Posted: 15 years ago

#51

Originally posted by: *dewdrop~pearl*

😆😆😆

Laxmi bhaaag!!!!!!!!! 🤣

Mera bhi doston ke liye kuch farz bantha hai yaar......🤣🤣🤣

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Pallavi

@-Pallavi-

Voyager

Posted: 15 years ago

#52

Originally posted by: *dewdrop~pearl*

Hey guys......

Clap for me 1st 👏👏👏!!

Vish had asked me this question yesterday, that in my imagination, how does Vish's voice sound like and she gave me the following options :

1. Husky
2. Like Baa in BBB
3. Rano from SGP
4. Badi maa SGP
5. Vasu
6. Soft...

And my answer was : Badi Ma of SGP 😃! I'm so GREAT !!

I know there is a tendency to judge a book by its cover 😆, and going by Vish's personality and her comments, people might think her voice might sound a bit 'strict' 😆. But I had so many experiences in the past whereby when I see someone's pic I might imagine a certain kind of voice for them, but when I actually talk to them (especially over the phone), it might not be anything close to what I would have imagined 😲! Like some guy might be very good looking like a model, but when you talk to him on the phone, he might sound like Raj Kumar ('jaani ye chaaku hain...' one 🤣)

So I thought of imagining Vish's voice, keeping aside her personality 😳. And my answer was right, am so proud of myself 😃!! This calls for celebrations 😃!!

Good Appu

She hadnt given me any option. So I guessed Ba (of BBB). And I just love Ba (BBB).

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Pallavi

@-Pallavi-

Voyager

Posted: 15 years ago

#53

Originally posted by: *dewdrop~pearl*

😆😆😆

Laxmi bhaaag!!!!!!!!! 🤣

Not just Laxmi, you too Brutus 😆

You also pressed Like buttons to both of us....😆

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Pallavi

@-Pallavi-

Voyager

Posted: 15 years ago

#54

Originally posted by: *dewdrop~pearl*

Arre waah, what an explanation 👏. I just love the way you prove using science and logic yaar 😆!! Give us more such explanations na 😳😆. Actually I just told someone this dialogue couple of weeks back, in spirituality, selfless act is not something you do for your parents, children, husand, etc., you are doing it for them bcos they are yours. When you do it for someone from whom you know you will never get anything in return, thats called selfless and unconditional act 😳.

Well, self-less act according to me is to think beyond one's self. Yes, there is a world which is beyond our parents, children, husband etc.... But, we first take care of these people and then think about the outside world. It is not that we ignore family and think of the society first. Most of us dont do that. After all charity begins @ home 😆

I have seen many women doing something for the society only after their children grow up. This sounds funny, I know. But, it is a fact.

For example, take Badi Ma. She is not doing social service (atleast that is not shown). She has kept her family united with her love. Her acts are self-less. What is she expecting anything in return (other than love)? Her acts are towards her family only. Actually, this Badi ma reminds me of my mother and my aunt (mother's sis). Both my mom and my aunt didnt do anything much for outsiders (other than rendering some help for some needy). But, their self-less act is appreciated amongst everyone in the family.

But, it need not be with everyone. If we consider Mother Theressa, Gandhi, Bhagath Singh etc... they are much beyond family and ties. There is no comparison to their self-less acts. We had to study Maslow's theory of hierarchy of needs in our software project mgmt class. According to the theory, one meets self-actualization only after fullfilling the psychological, safety, social and self-esteem. This theory doesnt hold good for people like Mother Theressa and Gandhi because they dont need to fulfill any levels to reach self-actualization.

To conclude, I feel, self-less acts are prevalent within family also. Both categories of people feel happy with their "SELF" though they are doing self-less acts. Badi-ma's SELF will be happy to see her family happy, Mother Theressa's SELF also will be happy to see the world happy. It is just the question of how big is each one's limit. For some, the limit may be their house and for some, the limit may be entire world. Ofcourse, compared to world, house is smaller, no doubt about that.

Edited by reguser - 15 years ago

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vishmewell

@vishmewell

Voyager

Posted: 15 years ago

#55

Originally posted by: *dewdrop~pearl*

Tera kuch nahi ho sakta. 🤔

Btw, I heard your voice (Laxmi had sent it). Just couldnt believe my ears. Was expecting Ba's (of Ba Bahu aur Baby) voice 😆 But got to hear Badi ma's 😆

It is a big surprise for me....😲

Hey guys......

Clap for me 1st 👏👏👏!!

Vish had asked me this question yesterday, that in my imagination, how does Vish's voice sound like and she gave me the following options :

1. Husky
2. Like Baa in BBB
3. Rano from SGP
4. Badi maa SGP
5. Vasu
6. Soft...

And my answer was : Badi Ma of SGP 😃! I'm so GREAT !!

I know there is a tendency to judge a book by its cover 😆, and going by Vish's personality and her comments, people might think her voice might sound a bit 'strict' 😆. But I had so many experiences in the past whereby when I see someone's pic I might imagine a certain kind of voice for them, but when I actually talk to them (especially over the phone), it might not be anything close to what I would have imagined 😲! Like some guy might be very good looking like a model, but when you talk to him on the phone, he might sound like Raj Kumar ('jaani ye chaaku hain...' one 🤣)

So I thought of imagining Vish's voice, keeping aside her personality 😳. And my answer was right, am so proud of myself 😃!! This calls for celebrations 😃!!

👏👏👏 Good guess Appu!!! One can only only sound the way they act and one can only act the way they think!!! 👏 dediya 110/100!!!!

🥳🥳🥳🥳

Edited by vishmewell - 15 years ago

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vishmewell

@vishmewell

Voyager

Posted: 15 years ago

#56

Originally posted by: *dewdrop~pearl*

Arre waah, what an explanation 👏. I just love the way you prove using science and logic yaar 😆!! Give us more such explanations na 😳😆. Actually I just told someone this dialogue couple of weeks back, in spirituality, selfless act is not something you do for your parents, children, husand, etc., you are doing it for them bcos they are yours. When you do it for someone from whom you know you will never get anything in return, thats called selfless and unconditional act 😳.

Thank you yaar!!! 😳😃😛😊 great minds think alike Appu!!! 😉
mujhe kahise jalne ka boo aaraha hai... 😆😆

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vishmewell

@vishmewell

Voyager

Posted: 15 years ago

#57

Originally posted by: reguser

Good Appu 👏

She hadnt given me any option. So I guessed Ba (of BBB). And I just love Ba (BBB).

Even before I gave options to Appu, that was her answer. Phir bhi I ignored her judgment and gave her options and Appu held her ground yaar... 😆😆😆 options denese perceptions thodi baldal jayenge.. 😆😆😆

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vishmewell

@vishmewell

Voyager

Posted: 15 years ago

#58

Originally posted by: reguser
[vishmewell}

Whether one looks at it as a discussion or fight depends on one's own perspective 😊 Lets just discuss in general terms based on Dictionary. @ underline below:

SELF:
"personal interest" (personal interest may be a thing, a place, an act, family, or a person)

Philosophy -
a.the ego; that which knows, remembers, desires, suffers, etc., as contrasted with that known, remembered, etc.

Well, self-less act according to me is to think beyond one's self. Yes, there is a world which is beyond our parents, children, husband etc.... But, we first take care of these people and then think about the outside world. It is not that we ignore family and think of the society first. Most of us dont do that. After all charity begins @ home 😆

I have seen many women doing something for the society only after their children grow up. This sounds funny, I know. But, it is a fact.

For example, take Badi Ma. She is not doing social service (atleast that is not shown). She has kept her family united with her love. Her acts are self-less. What is she expecting anything in return (other than love)? Her acts are towards her family only. Actually, this Badi ma reminds me of my mother and my aunt (mother's sis). Both my mom and my aunt didnt do anything much for outsiders (other than rendering some help for some needy). But, their self-less act is appreciated amongst everyone in the family.

But, it need not be with everyone. If we consider Mother Theressa, Gandhi, Bhagath Singh etc... they are much beyond family and ties. There is no comparison to their self-less acts. We had to study Maslow's theory of hierarchy of needs in our software project mgmt class. According to the theory, one meets self-actualization only after fullfilling the psychological, safety, social and self-esteem. This theory doesnt hold good for people like Mother Theressa and Gandhi because they dont need to fulfill any levels to reach self-actualization.

To conclude, I feel, self-less acts are prevalent within family also. Both categories of people feel happy with their "SELF" though they are doing self-less acts. Badi-ma's SELF will be happy to see her family happy, Mother Theressa's SELF also will be happy to see the world happy. It is just the question of how big is each one's limit. For some, the limit may be their house and for some, the limit may be entire world. Ofcourse, compared to world, house is smaller, no doubt about that.

Nahi pyaari... 😆😆 we are going to stick to the dictionary definition/meaning because that is universally acceptable definition.. 😆😆
Yatho, you have to find a different word that fits the bill for your explanation... 😆😆

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Aparna

@*dewdrop~pearl*

Rocker

Posted: 15 years ago

#59

Originally posted by: reguser

Well, self-less act according to me is to think beyond one's self. Yes, there is a world which is beyond our parents, children, husband etc.... But, we first take care of these people and then think about the outside world. It is not that we ignore family and think of the society first. Most of us dont do that. After all charity begins @ home 😆

I have seen many women doing something for the society only after their children grow up. This sounds funny, I know. But, it is a fact.

For example, take Badi Ma. She is not doing social service (atleast that is not shown). She has kept her family united with her love. Her acts are self-less. What is she expecting anything in return (other than love)? Her acts are towards her family only. Actually, this Badi ma reminds me of my mother and my aunt (mother's sis). Both my mom and my aunt didnt do anything much for outsiders (other than rendering some help for some needy). But, their self-less act is appreciated amongst everyone in the family.

But, it need not be with everyone. If we consider Mother Theressa, Gandhi, Bhagath Singh etc... they are much beyond family and ties. There is no comparison to their self-less acts. We had to study Maslow's theory of hierarchy of needs in our software project mgmt class. According to the theory, one meets self-actualization only after fullfilling the psychological, safety, social and self-esteem. This theory doesnt hold good for people like Mother Theressa and Gandhi because they dont need to fulfill any levels to reach self-actualization.

To conclude, I feel, self-less acts are prevalent within family also. Both categories of people feel happy with their "SELF" though they are doing self-less acts. Badi-ma's SELF will be happy to see her family happy, Mother Theressa's SELF also will be happy to see the world happy. It is just the question of how big is each one's limit. For some, the limit may be their house and for some, the limit may be entire world. Ofcourse, compared to world, house is smaller, no doubt about that.

Very well said 👏. What you said is true about selfless act. Actually what I meant was the ultimate level of selflessness, where you rise beyond yourself and family and act for the welfare of the society.

Actually in spirituality they say there are 3 levels of human actions :

- 1^st level where the person is totally self-centered and only thinks about himself / herself and not even about his/her own family members.

- 2^nd level where the person is concerned about his/her family members and relatives along with himself/herself, but not much bothered about society.

- 3^rd level where the person is beyond much concern for themselves, and is able to incorporate concern for society as well. It can include social services, charity, being associated with other environmental concerns like global warming, animal injustice, protection of wildlife, etc.

So basically, the 2^nd and 3^rd level consists of selfless acts. In today's world, m

ost human beings would be in the 1^st & 2^nd levels, and there might be fewer people in the 3^rd level.

Regarding Maslow's theory, oh God I remember learning this answer at almost every juncture, from 11^th std to my MBA, and now that answer is byheart for me 😆! Regarding Maslow's needs, every human being has these needs, be it Mother Teresa or Gandhi Ji. Like for example, physiological needs like food, clothing and shelter needs to be fulfilled for every human being. Similar is the case with security, social & self-esteem needs. But the only difference is that, such people cross the bottom 4 levels faster than normal people as these needs of theirs might be very limited due to which they get easily fulfilled. So they are able to reach the ultimate level very quickly. But unfortunately for normal people, the lower levels are more difficult to fulfil bcos their desires and its extent is very high. So normal people spend lot of time at the bottom levels.

As you mentioned about people who start doing social services once they are free from their domestic responsibilties, I think that is the most practical option available as a person's prime responsibility is towards his/her family, even before society, as it is his/her dharma. We have certain responsibilities (dharma) towards our family members. Like if am a wife and a mother, my primary duty is towards my husband and kids. So sometimes one might be so busy with their duties and responsibilities, it might not be possible to even think about anything beyond it. But that doesn't mean they may not want to do something for the society, but due to their busy schedule, they might have time and money constraints. But once they are free from all their responsibilities, they might be able to direct their resources (time, money and efforts) for such causes.

My mother always says, once she gets me and my sister married off, she would want to sponsor 1 or 2 orphaned girl's education. Maybe she would have had this desire inside her since long, but when you have a family, it has its own monetary requirements like education of own children, marriage, etc., due to which such things may not be practical at that time.

I have heard stories of men who left their wives and small kids and went for 'sanyasam', and the poor wife is working as servant in other people's houses to earn money and take care of herself and her kids. My mom says, what is the use of going for 'sanyasam' like this when his services are needed most by his wife and children. If you cant take care of your own family, how will you take care of the society? Without fulfilling your dharma, what spirituality?

Spirituality doesn't mean you forget your dharma. That would also amount to selfishness. Infact I feel some people use spirituality as an excuse for escapism.

And definitely, even if one is not able to be selfless towards society, being selfless towards your family is also very noble, as in todays world I have seen lot of them who just care about themselves, and very less for their family in the name of career and 'enjoying life'. And my mom is also a totally self-less character towards her family and relatives. But when we were small, she dint have the time or opportunity to do anything for society, but nowadays she does small things here and there.

Thus according to me, people who make sure their services at home are complete before expanding their services to the outside world are doing things in the most righteous and practical manner 😊.

Wow, I have written an essay on this. Only if I had such assignment essays to do in school and college 😭! But the funny thing is, when we used to get such good topics at school, we used to somehow finish it off just for the sake of it. But now through experience and exposure, we are able to come up with such long essays without even any library reference 😆.

Edited by *dewdrop~pearl* - 15 years ago