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Posted: 12 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: arshicritic


Kat, incomplete threads, half baked characterization seems to be the order here. Story tracks are haphazard, anyway, I hope that the story will end in a couple of months. A speedy death and a quick burial and we shall all be at peace


Arshi in a matter of two days they have reduced us to wanting the show to actually end!! When it was announced that SC may get replaced we were all dying with worry inside but kya maha butchering ki ke we all praying that it ends!

Sach mein perhaps Starplus have learnt from past that to get fans off their backs if they stop the show awein...lets crucify it to cringe worthy material ke audience se Saha na jai aur morcha nikaaley ke for our sanity iss show ok bandh Karo!

Sach mein mujhe Novel ka ending manzoor hai but not this whole Saras making it his life mission to make sure Kumud's marriage works!


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Posted: 12 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: happychappy

Thanks again for the source alignment data Smrth!


What I ws most frustrated about is the murdering of the characters - VC says he has no right to stop K going back. D'ba goes further and will not even let him extractva promise from K that she will keepthem in the loop...The two sisters and Kho-kaki all cheerleaders for K going back to abusive husband! These charcters were not expected to behave in this manner so that causes dismay...

Is this how DV is to be tackled? What a message? How many lives are lost/ damaged because of these sort of attitudes... Why did he not show it as happening in the 19th century?

Happy we are missing the point perhaps. Tell me friend, are we watching a tell as it is in its best adapted form or a 'message dissemination' program? Why are we taking all failed hopes onto 'message' and 'oh- so- not- contemporary' strictures only? Why should it take only an instant solution or 'logical as per our world view' route? ...So what should VC do now? Or DB? Should they stomp their 'feet' and stop Kumud? ( and gleefully for us viewers, make her marry to now available Saras- as we viewers know?) So who is Kumud? Still following their decisions, their guidance, their judgements? Is she adult or a baby? When VC says, 'he has no right now'. Note. She is a married woman. And not only legally, after such a huge blunder, he lost even a moral say in what she now resolved to attempt as a salvage. How much more can he mess it for her? And still, as a parent, he DID try to eke out the promise, ' don't hide anything from now onwards, in case..." He is offering a parent's vigilant eye on her 'repair' attempts and note his sinking feeling, " Kumud, you are not giving me even this promise?" He is now seeing a resolute daughter who is NOW taking a DECISION. Notice his regret in the compound when Dukh baa said, " you maintained me for life when I returned." VC said, " but Dukh baa, she is not even returning!!"🤢
Edited by smrth - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#33
Haven't seen the episode yet...but loved your post.
I am on vacation so will reply on your updates whenever I will get a chance.
From your updates, one thing is clear, truth is out and VC family is in reality show now...no more "all about Pramad are rumors"...
30 days...does this mean after a month there is no Pramad :) It will be interseting to see how SaMud wil unite.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: smrth

Happy we are missing the point perhaps. Tell me friend, are we watching a tell as it is in its best adapted form or a 'message dissemination' program? Why are we taking all failed hopes onto 'message' and 'oh- so- not- contemporary' strictures only? Why should it take only an instant solution or 'logical as per our world view' route? ...So what should VC do now? Or DB? Should they stomp their 'feet' and stop Kumud? ( and gleefully for us viewers, make her marry to now available Saras- as we viewers know?) So who is Kumud? Still following their decisions, their guidance, their judgements? Is she adult or a baby? When VC says, 'he has no right now'. Note. She is a married woman. And not only legally, after such a huge blunder, he lost even a moral say in what she now resolved to attempt as a salvage. How much more can he mess it for her? And still, as a parent, he DID try to eke out the promise, ' don't hide anything from now onwards, in case..." He is offering a parent's vigilant eye on her 'repair' attempts and note his sinking feeling, " Kumud, you are not giving me even this promise?" He is now seeing a resolute daughter who is NOW taking a DECISION. Notice his regret in the compound when Dukh baa said, " you maintained me for life when I returned." VC said, " but Dukh baa, she is not even returning!!"🤢



sorry to butt in smrth...
Its not about a NGO type social message...but at least a real-world 21st century one...

So don't entirely agree...because it was clearly made out from the beginning that this was an adaptation..Adhuri Dastaan Ab Hogi Poori and all that...

by your logic the whole character of a current real-world kumud the way it was set up should not have been...

VC is shown as a person who loves his daughter immensely, who thinks the world of her, who supports her in her opinions even when she goes against established society norms (women's education, internet, religious rituals, gau hatya!, yash's arrest, her night out with saras...the toofan one), khoti-kaki wearing colored clothes after the death of her husband (in today's epi)...

And yet who has done far more earlier to someone who was not kumud...he stood with DB to rectify an error of judgement (when he got DB married to sahas rai), even went to the extent of getting him arrested (along with DB), who gave her shelter and respect for 14 years, who
sheltered his widowed bhabi (Khoti kaki)..

So he should be doing more for kumud...not sit on the sidelines and accept the status quo...
It is not in character...I have observed cases of DV in my extended family and friends...the LAST thing any father has done...no matter what his compulsions (economic or social)...is become all passive...

VC in the story has no such compulsions...your adaptaion is set in a modern world, with a character who has been shown to be of modern outlook...so this is a total break from character...


Edited by hotdogg - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: P020167

Haven't seen the episode yet...but loved your post.

I am on vacation so will reply on your updates whenever I will get a chance.
From your updates, one thing is clear, truth is out and VC family is in reality show now...no more "all about Pramad are rumors"...
30 days...does this mean after a month there is no Pramad :) It will be interseting to see how SaMud wil unite.



..in 30 days there won't even be a show to speak of...

SLB has / is probably moving out...SP has given an extension till Nov...there is a desperate rush to become more TRP friendly...

however, today saras has made a promise to himself that in 30 days he will make kumud's marriage with pramad work out...

So in line with TRPs...we could also see a Samud become a Pramud...courtesy saras who may become a platonic friend of kumud...and possible godfather to pramud's kids..


Edited by hotdogg - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#36
😆

Originally posted by: happychappy

Arshi, I am torn...


Cant decide who is more bonkers,

the Desais or the Dharamadhikaris? or me...🤢

Cannot see why I am watching this...(leaving aside force of habit)

Imagine, if todays episode of SC was the only one you ever saw, say while surfing the channels, having newly arrived from Mars, say...what wd you think? Wd you say "ah this looks interesting, need to watch this show and discuss it threadbare every night...???" 😆

a. overdressed women/girls cheerleading daughter living with abusive husband
b. rona-dhona of parents/bua (next to the tulsi in the aaangan, of course)
c. oath taken by tikka-bearing ganja-wearing guy in middle of pond
d. roadside knife-wielding dakus in precap... mangalsutra caught in mid-air by hero(Rajnikant fan!?)

Obviously, Not.

And that is what we have come down to...



😆😆 Ur description is just too funny...but u're right, this is exactly what we have come to!

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Posted: 12 years ago
#37
arshi jus came here to say dat today I missed Yatin ji sooo much... din lyk d new vc at all... 🤢
now more dan the story its just for actors performances i'm still sticking to the show... God Bless the show...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: hotdogg



..in 30 days there won't even be a show to speak of...

SLB has / is probably moving out...SP has given an extension till Nov...there is a desperate rush to become more TRP friendly...

however, today saras has made a promise to himself that in 30 days he will make kumud's marriage with pramad work out...

So in line with TRPs...we could also see a Samud become a Pramud...courtesy saras who may become a platonic friend of kumud...and possible godfather to pramud's kids..





And that's how you crucify an aunthetic and unique story! U don't better it...u throw it down the gutter. Poor SLB will coax himself for not making a movie instead.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: hotdogg



sorry to butt in smrth...
Its not about a NGO type social message...but at least a real-world 21st century one...

So don't entirely agree...because it was clearly made out from the beginning that this was an adaptation..Adhuri Dastaan Ab Hogi Poori and all that...

by your logic the whole character of a current real-world kumud the way it was set up should not have been...

VC is shown as a person who loves his daughter immensely, who thinks the world of her, who supports her in her opinions even when she goes against established society norms (women's education, internet, religious rituals, gau hatya!, yash's arrest, her night out with saras...the toofan one), khoti-kaki wearing colored clothes after the death of her husband (in today's epi)...

And yet who has done far more earlier to someone who was not kumud...he stood with DB to rectify an error of judgement (when he got DB married to sahas rai), even went to the extent of getting him arrested (along with DB), who gave her shelter and respect for 14 years, who
sheltered his widowed bhabi (Khoti kaki)..

So he should be doing more for kumud...not sit on the sidelines and accept the status quo...
It is not in character...I have observed cases of DV in my extended family and friends...the LAST thing any father has done...no matter what his compulsions (economic or social)...is become all passive...

VC in the story has no such compulsions...your adaptaion is set in a modern world, with a character who has been shown to be of modern outlook...so this is a total break from character...



Hgg,
Assessment on two fronts. Kumud's character sketch- its plausibility. And VC's response. Since we are debating later, I will try to relate this with the elapsed script.
You say- VC should do more for her, like what he has done for Dukh baa. What would he do now? A la Sahas rai, he should get Pramaad arrested and rectify the misjudgement as DV is involved. You are right HGG, he should and he will. Why! He may even 'murder' him for all rage it may provoke in him- his most precious child. But Hgg, do they know DV is involved?? Not only DV- a raging extramarital affair for that matter!
At this point only information they have is this. 'He is taking alcohol'. And his sentence before he passed out," Kumud You are all 'Drama". So can he order her back on 'alcohol' charges? Notice, Kumud's noncommittal, no promise ( 'wily' cvs😲 ) is keeping actual seriousness 'hidden' from him.😲 Even Dukhbaa is not sharing whatever extra information she has had ( and even she does not have it all). So on what premise would he interfere at this point? Only alcohol? Hgg, as you know, viewer's 360 D view is sometimes misleading. But I have more faith in your analytical power. If possible see the episode once more, 'objectively' as a plausible narrative.
As for first part; Kumud's character sketch, it still has plausibility. But where it is lacking is in Saras's.🤢

Edited by smrth - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Trps have gone high trp auntiesove stuff we hate

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