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Posted: 12 years ago
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What a big surprise. Saras saying it all by himself. No words to describe the episode. It was beautiful and very emotional. Watched it thrice. There was lot said and lot unsaid. Kahee and Ankahee.

His 'Kaash tum mera intazaar karti' --- I made a blunder. But you being the wiser one could have saved it by waiting.

Her tears --- She did shed quite a few in front of him. They said a lot.

Her holding herself back --- keeping her maryaada.

His long silence before she asks him to put first aid --- he was waiting for her to acknowledge his pain.

His looks --- begging forgiveness and also checking her feelings and reaction. The game of hide and seek with eyes spoke their love with each other.

His pause when saying 'aaj bhi' --- Keeping the maryaada from his side in saying it to a married woman.

His 'thoda nahin' --- implied a confidence that her heart still is intact for him? his confidence made me think so.


Devi ji bhakt ko final verdict diye bina bhaag gayi. She couldn't stand there and breakdown in front of him. She already stood long enough. His final words before she made the sprint were too poignant. He just didnt know what to do and wanted to just go to his mother. She couldnt bear anymore. Standing there any further would have been detrimental to her future. She had to run to safety and cry.


So my question remains. Doesn't this weaken her in accepting Pramaad fully(not now when the affair of Pramad is out. But before that.)? So earlier, his betrayal occupied her mental space so much that she couldnt accept Pramad as her husband? Now her mind is clear, so she wants to pursue it sincerely? Could be because the premise of anger is reduced quite a bit. She can try harder now in building a relationship with Pramad. That should help her sincere efforts.

I thought she would pray goddess mother to give her strength.

The truth behind Saras's actions came out. But got juxtaposed with the Pramad-Kalika affair. I didn't like that cruelty. Kumud ko ek kone se raahat milaa tho dusre kone se us par prahaar hua. I wish they showed a day where Kumud has this relief about her past with Saras. But CVs had diff ideas.

Saras hurting himself was not totally worng in my opinion. He was speaking and replying in her language. With the same pen.
Today's episode was truly touching. Saras and Kumud. What a pair. Ufff.
Only yesterday I said that learning about Saras's condition will give some relief for her. And it happens the very next day.
Edited by pasumarthisa - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Eid Mubarak to the CB gang. See you all after the weekend 😳

I daresay SC will have made quite a lot of strides by then!

Ivy =)
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Finally now truth about Saras is out for kumud
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: smrth

These two! Jenny and G.R. Arshi, I tell you, they leave me speechless time and again. Today they raised the bar higher even from their customary lofty standards. I don't feel adequate enough to praise them. What a SMASHING performance today! I also got an answer- why am I getting so involved while analysing two fictional characters as if they are real people- flash, blood and feels aka real 'persons'. These two!
Don't feel like adding anything, it was such a perfect episode. Even if they keep on giving one such, once a week, the watch is worth perhaps. Serendipity- they are belting out much more than 'once' in a week in this show. And yes Cvs thanks for bringing forth 'haldi bowl' with mirroring reflections of pain-bonds, heals and 'links'.

Contd...

But I do want to express a major misgiving that I have restrained so far in some token disagreements only, normally as an avoidance and also as a deference to the 'opinions'- so to say.😕
The prevailing refrain is 'Her willing 'choice' in opting to marry'. 'Her wounded 'pride' in her 'choice' to marry'. In short, Her 'hasty' (and!) 'decision'!!😲 None of this has a just base in objective facts that narrative is presenting (even much more NOT SO in the source). A one easy finger is, "but she did marry 'in spite of' her being a modern, decisive, adult person, 'that she is'. It becomes a 'choice' and 'decision'."...Can't see a logic more twisted to browbeat entire portrayal of the narrative... Questions are; 1) was she decisive? And even more 2) 'was it her choice?'...
The back episodes clearly showed; a) an inert numbness after the fatal stab. And b) it was her complete submission to what her father is 'deciding' for her. Her father's honour and family's compulsion. She was accepting what is being 'thrust' on her as dead acceptance. There was a specific dialogue on her,' bapu janha kahenge...' And VC had avowed, 'Kumud shall get married on the same day.' Also,"meri zindgi ka faisala me nahi...and 'i have no dream now, i would only fulfil parents' wish and guidance..." A two way thrust, imposed on her by a reneging suitor and panicked father. How do one take away any liability from these two 'deciding' forces??
As for 'choice', when since a dead acceptance/ submission- like a doomed person unable to maintain foothold under force of flood torrent- would be deemed a choice?!🤢 Two scenes are enough- her indifference to see the photograph of 'choice'. And her inability to participate any ritual in the marriage- so much that a parent had to come and nudge her onwards.🥱

What a convolution? A culprit who individually alone has opened a floodgate, is granted lee way of a 'past trauma rendering him incapable of rationale' and hence not truly culpable of the 'action'. But victim of that flood- because she is 'adult' and happened to be in the way of an unleashed flood- is actually a culprit for allowing that flood to sweep her away! Amazing. 'Decision' and Choices?! Indeed.
Today scriptwriters have emphasised these points in Kumud. IMO...


Thank you so much smrth, you have said perfectly what I have been feeling all along. While it looked like a choice and a decision was infact acceptance of defeat. Her own choice and trust having been proven wrong, she just leaned on her father and let him choose for her. Like a drowning man, clutching at the only log that floated her way.

I feel, that his initial no, that opened the floodgates, is where the responsibility will have to be pegged.

All the precursors, Guman's antics, LN's anger, may her been drivers, and followed VC and Kumud's "choices" were fall outs. The single point where it could and should have been rationally stopped was at Saras and his response, he needed to step back, think and then act!

And for that the burden of guilt he must always carry and by accepting that, he was forgiven a little by my. His "Kash tum Mera intezar kar sakti" showed he too realized that she did not have much of a choice there.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sraskumud

..wow brilliant post..👏👏..dil ki baat, haaqq n limitsl👏..thnku arshi n shana for explaing this points...iwas not able 2 understand the logic...but thn well done by cv's 2 show this ..i loved it ..but still i felt it could have been more better...espically the dilogoues for kumud...


I felt it was actually near perfect, the repeat of haldi on hands, the same haq, but new hadd. And the love, the final release of her feelings, and the closure.

Great job by entire team SLB last night on that.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: happychappy

A small but interesting point today was a painting on the wall in BD's house, shown prominently when Saras has just made an moment's contact with Kusum on the phone. It was a facsimile of the famous Ravi Varma painting of Damayanti with the swan that many of us may have seen around.


The swan is of course a symbol of Saraswati, and was sent to Damayanti with a message from Nala, communicating his dil ki baat... but what do you think the CV's were they trying to say, if anything? Any ideas anyone??

(This is the very first time they showed an identifiable piece of art in the BD house, most of the decorations have been without any character)

Edit- After google-research, The picture may be a reference not to the swan or the message, but to the story of Nala-Damayanti itself...Nala, after losing his kingdom, abandoned Damayanti under the influence of an evil God Kali (as in kaliyug), and believing she would be better off without him... sounds familiar??

Also it looks like their love story was pretty epic, ... and survived all sorts of trials including loss of wealth, abandonment, separation, etc. Equally telling like smrth's comment on popularity of names, I have only ever met one person called after Nala, but many called Damayanti...😆



Thanks happy, had not noticed the painting, great connect made there, and also great recall on the first meeting. Now that the air has been cleared, it was in many ways a first meeting!

Love the way the same scenes are being revisited with new dynamics. Loved the seedhe dil ki baat and her believing him. Especially loved his taking the onus for the whole chain of events. Because as smrth pointed out, he was the one who opened the floodgates, thereafter the choice is only whether to let the flow take you wherever or to hold on to anything that comes your way!

The painting shows that CVs are thinking and looking into minute details and laying patterns and symbols. 👏

And 👏 to you too noticing that

I did not like the precap. If she is going to hold on to the mangalsutra just because Mrs BD emotionally blackmails her, 😡. I want her to fling it in pramaads face after she saw what she saw!

Edited by arshicritic - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: pasumarthisa

didnt watch the epi. Its a shocker from CVs. Letting it out completely through Saras's mouth. Wish they also made him say how the meeting date was changed by Guman to belittle him and his love.
Always believed in Kumud's sincerity in trying to build her marriage. But this truth(of Saras's situation)- wont it weaken her a bit and make it harder to accept her marriage in totality? That truth has been juxtaposed by the truth of Pramad n Kalika. Well didnt she get the hint already?


Right now, it seems to have strengthened her, given her the courage to make the marriage work, all her questions have been answered, the comatose Kumud has awakened to the reality of her situation, and seems ready to look at her life and act consciously.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: smrth


Arshi respecting your sensibility, I want to disagree...
This 'self harm' was quite purposeful in narrative; rt. from her 'awakening' like an unexpected flare leapt from a dormant dead volcano, the scene was built as a partial resolution to an internal meshing of these two that can no longer be sustained in its such a smouldering state.
The steam/ tension hissed out in many forms. Ink, blood, words, stares, tears, repels, threats, sutures but above all, an unbroken bond, now manifest more acutely in Pain. Pen which traced her oozing wounds on a paper, also blazed a visible wound on his person. Rt. from her startled 'oh' to his dazed face eventually equally contorted as her angry voice to stop it, their shared breathlessness tr entire reprisal, their visible disclaimers and invisible 'claims', there was only one fact that transpired undisputed. They are so One, even they can not forge a sunder now. However much they may grind. Gory blood was a seal witness of the Fact...As that haunting beats BG tried to capture; relentless march of the fate,
dhim, dhim, dhim tanana, dhim dhim dhin.

But Lines were every where. Normally she would have snatched that piercing tip. But there was a line of sharpnel. normally, she would have grabbed the hand and applied. But now a line limiting her..and just as Saras tried to overstep a line...she flared.




Wow, loved it smrth. Thanks . Yes the actions of Saras and Kumud cannot be judged stand alone, isn't it?

And now I understand his using the same pen to hurt himself. The oneness, yet the lines in between.

The marriage has created a physical barrier, yet not that of their hearts and souls!

But then that raises another question. If she now wants to accept Pramaad as her husband, doesn't it mean that she must disengage her heart from Saras and give it to Pramaad?

How will that happen? Is it even possible now? Esp after last night?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: IdiotViewer

Eid Mubarak to the CB gang. See you all after the weekend 😳

I daresay SC will have made quite a lot of strides by then!

Ivy =)


Eid Mubarak Ivy. God bless you.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hey arshi😃
Lovely episode. Loved it!! SaMud were just simply wow minus the self infliction!!
Today I really liked our kummu. She was so dignified staying within her limits even if she dying inside to rush to his side to soothe his pain n treat his wounds.
What was surprising was Saras starting the whether U believe it or not I still...😲
He simply lost control of his emotions for a fraction of a minute n forgot that he has no right to tell this to kumud now!!

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