Crisp Bytes SC - 7th Aug 13 - Page 3

Originally posted by: omshreejaanu

Hey arshi😃

Lovely episode. Loved it!! SaMud were just simply wow minus the self infliction!!

Today I really liked our kummu. She was so dignified staying within her limits even if she dying inside to rush to his side to soothe his pain n treat his wounds.

What was surprising was Saras starting the whether U believe it or not I still...😲

He simply lost control of his emotions for a fraction of a minute n forgot that he has no right to tell this to kumud now!!

Originally posted by: arshicritic

Wow, loved it smrth. Thanks . Yes the actions of Saras and Kumud cannot be judged stand alone, isn't it?

And now I understand his using the same pen to hurt himself. The oneness, yet the lines in between.

The marriage has created a physical barrier, yet not that of their hearts and souls!

But then that raises another question. If she now wants to accept Pramaad as her husband, doesn't it mean that she must disengage her heart from Saras and give it to Pramaad?

How will that happen? Is it even possible now? Esp after last night?

Originally posted by: pasumarthisa

Thats the question I asked in my longer post Arshi. Its tough for her. But, she is trying to stay in the present.

Till yesterday I was thinking that this suspense is going to be extended for some more time!

Well well...what do you know?...Cvs are telling us all...don't you try to second guess us...
And we get a cracker of an episode and everything changes...

One word to describe my feelings...Spellbound...

Absolutely Brilliant acting by Gautam and Jennifer

Perfect script and dialogues...the entire conversation was mature, just like it should be between two people who love (though kumud won't yet admit) and still respect each other...crisp but covering all relevant POVs...the net effect was that finally both were communicating and assimilating...no tu tu mein mein...

Masterly direction...the placements of the actors, ambience, BG score positioning, lighting, wind effect, right amount of melodrama (no hysterics)...and most importantly the Closure (at last!) between these two

Really liked the director granting 'privacy' to saras & kumud when they had this conversation...like it was their own private world ... there could have been a temptation to make kalika evasdrop on this convo and spice it up (as she will be the onw to stumble upon this)...but glad that the CVs left kalika finding it out at some later stage...making this convo a truly heart-to-heart 'pure' and extremely personal event..

As has been the trend, the CVs have had the guts to stick to what they believe in even if the effect is sometimes unpopular...like kumud's dressing style...there was a lot of flak (including by yours truly) on the overall eeww effect...but now it seems there was a purpose behind it...before the convo kumud was caged and conflicted which was depicted through her getup...after the convo she is finally at peace even if the situation is still bad...but her most significant query "Did he reject my love?" has been answered...and her new get-up refelcts that internal change...it's a new day...the old kumud is starting to surface...hoping the precap indicates the direction kumud is going to become...

Also liked the recurring toofan motif...the last time toofan motif was used was when saras had first expressed he loves kumud ...and this time also using the same toofan motif saras has once again expressed he loves kumud...but now the entire world has shifted between these two!

And now the CVs leave us with new questions...with this coming up so quick...what next?...
smrth may give more insights...but I guess in the novel he does not again express his love again till Act 3 when kumud is out of BD household, pramad's gone etc...in the novel all the time that he's in BD land his cause is primary concern is for kumud's plight and his role in it... With this all the equations between all parties change again...

So CVs continue to confound and remain unpredictable...all the better...hope they do some nayi soch trick here ...

Lastly, with respect to smrth's POV about kumud not really having a choice at all...I agree to the fact that from a Cause & Effect perspective the Cause was saras and his phone call..

...But in the end ON the decision to marry the buck does stop at kumud...I am not stating that it was the right call because I agree with smrth that...
- events were progressing too rapidly
- were enormous to handle
- no information coming from LN side
- finality of saras decision at that time
- LN & saras switched off and 'washed' hands off
- there were too many triggers and compulsions to consider
- there was time compression and decision had to be taken in a few hours

We often tend to forget that as viewers we have the convenience of a 360 degree view...we know what happened at saras-end...but in the story when saras called kumud had no perspective

...So she did MAKE the best choice at that time considering the cards she was holding...

EDIT: If we allow other factors to let off kumud off the hook...then the extensiongoes back and back...logically we will end up saying that it was saraswati who is the culprit...she did not 'understand' LN's ambitions, left saras etc. etc...

What I have really loved about the treatment of this is the maturity & pragmatism shown by kumud...yesterday she took this on the chin...after their heartfelt convo...there is regret but no recrimination... I guess she has forgiven saras, forgiven herself too, understood her and saras current locus standii ...and now looking at the next steps...so she continues to make choices again given the cards she is holding...Isn't this what all of us do in our real lives everyday?
😊

p.s.
To give credt, saras too is more or less behaving maturely like kumud...but relatively speaking kumud is in deeper shit...so I feel her coming to terms is more grander since it is more difficult

Today's highlights: Half truth is out. Kumud knows Saras came and what happened to him. She knows he had a big fight with his father re his mom's death….but she doesn't know Guman changed the meeting date of launch too.

Today was all about Saras and Kumud…Saras that longing looks but realization she is someone's wife….Kumud that pain, remorse but realization she is married.

Kumud: after knowing the truth, you are devastated. Your pain is endless and how you repented was visible too. Even though you stood stern, you were crying inside and totally shattered inside. (Glad to see you in loose hair…loved it and Green Saree). You are so in love with Saras…that you can't see him in pain. You are so mad at Saras…that you want him to go away, but in reality stay here with you. Really wanted to see hug between SaMud. See we viewers are not as modern as to accept unnecessary PMS, but we are modern enough to see friendly vale hug between SaMud…..missed this. Or at least, Kumud crying hysterically in front of Saras accepting her hasten decision . Now since you know why and what Saras did, you have accepted your present. Will this bring you to fight back with Pramad and Kalika?

Saras: you found a way to wake up Kumud and that is by hurting yourself. Hope you could have seen Kumud's hurt foot. You know even though Kumud is married to someone else, she still loves you and can't see you in pain…you tested this in entire episode today….she cries- you cry, she is hurt-you are hurt, now it is time to do reversal…you cry-she will cry, you get hurt-she will be hurt.

Pramad and kalika: good to see both of you together, you deserve each other…keep up "this" work J

I don't mind Saras hurting himself...Kumud is in pain and she is hurting herself...Saras hurting himself in front of her is the only way to bring Kumud out of this frame of mind. She can see herself in pain but not Saras.

GR and Jenny: 10/10

overall it was 10/10 for me...no dragging..bas dil se dil tak .

Originally posted by: hotdogg

Lastly, with respect to smrth's POV about kumud not really having a choice at all...I agree to the fact that from a Cause & Effect perspective the Cause was saras and his phone call..

...But in the end ON the decision to marry the buck does stop at kumud...I am not stating that it was the right call because I agree with smrth that...
- events were progressing too rapidly
- were enormous to handle
- no information coming from LN side
- finality of saras decision at that time
- LN & saras switched off and 'washed' hands off
- there were too many triggers and compulsions to consider
- there was time compression and decision had to be taken in a few hours

We often tend to forget that as viewers we have the convenience of a 360 degree view...we know what happened at saras-end...but in the story when saras called kumud had no perspective

...So she did MAKE the best choice at that time considering the cards she was holding...

EDIT: If we allow other factors to let off kumud off the hook...then the extensiongoes back and back...logically we will end up saying that it was saraswati who is the culprit...she did not 'understand' LN's ambitions, left saras etc. etc...

What I have really loved about the treatment of this is the maturity & pragmatism shown by kumud...yesterday she took this on the chin...after their heartfelt convo...there is regret but no recrimination... I guess she has forgiven saras, forgiven herself too, understood her and saras current locus standii ...and now looking at the next steps...so she continues to make choices again given the cards she is holding...Isn't this what all of us do in our real lives everyday?
😊

p.s.
To give credt, saras too is more or less behaving maturely like kumud...but relatively speaking kumud is in deeper shit...so I feel her coming to terms is more grander since it is more difficult

Originally posted by: arshicritic

Wow, loved it smrth. Thanks . Yes the actions of Saras and Kumud cannot be judged stand alone, isn't it?

And now I understand his using the same pen to hurt himself. The oneness, yet the lines in between.

The marriage has created a physical barrier, yet not that of their hearts and souls!

But then that raises another question. If she now wants to accept Pramaad as her husband, doesn't it mean that she must disengage her heart from Saras and give it to Pramaad?

How will that happen? Is it even possible now? Esp after last night?

Originally posted by: hotdogg

Till yesterday I was thinking that this suspense is going to be extended for some more time!

Well well...what do you know?...Cvs are telling us all...don't you try to second guess us...
And we get a cracker of an episode and everything changes...

One word to describe my feelings...Spellbound...

Absolutely Brilliant acting by Gautam and Jennifer

Perfect script and dialogues...the entire conversation was mature, just like it should be between two people who love (though kumud won't yet admit) and still respect each other...crisp but covering all relevant POVs...the net effect was that finally both were communicating and assimilating...no tu tu mein mein...

Masterly direction...the placements of the actors, ambience, BG score positioning, lighting, wind effect, right amount of melodrama (no hysterics)...and most importantly the Closure (at last!) between these two

Really liked the director granting 'privacy' to saras & kumud when they had this conversation...like it was their own private world ... there could have been a temptation to make kalika evasdrop on this convo and spice it up (as she will be the onw to stumble upon this)...but glad that the CVs left kalika finding it out at some later stage...making this convo a truly heart-to-heart 'pure' and extremely personal event..

As has been the trend, the CVs have had the guts to stick to what they believe in even if the effect is sometimes unpopular...like kumud's dressing style...there was a lot of flak (including by yours truly) on the overall eeww effect...but now it seems there was a purpose behind it...before the convo kumud was caged and conflicted which was depicted through her getup...after the convo she is finally at peace even if the situation is still bad...but her most significant query "Did he reject my love?" has been answered...and her new get-up refelcts that internal change...it's a new day...the old kumud is starting to surface...hoping the precap indicates the direction kumud is going to become...

Also liked the recurring toofan motif...the last time toofan motif was used was when saras had first expressed he loves kumud ...and this time also using the same toofan motif saras has once again expressed he loves kumud...but now the entire world has shifted between these two!

And now the CVs leave us with new questions...with this coming up so quick...what next?...
smrth may give more insights...but I guess in the novel he does not again express his love again till Act 3 when kumud is out of BD household, pramad's gone etc...in the novel all the time that he's in BD land his cause is primary concern is for kumud's plight and his role in it... With this all the equations between all parties change again...

So CVs continue to confound and remain unpredictable...all the better...hope they do some nayi soch trick here ...

Lastly, with respect to smrth's POV about kumud not really having a choice at all...I agree to the fact that from a Cause & Effect perspective the Cause was saras and his phone call..

...But in the end ON the decision to marry the buck does stop at kumud...I am not stating that it was the right call because I agree with smrth that...
- events were progressing too rapidly
- were enormous to handle
- no information coming from LN side
- finality of saras decision at that time
- LN & saras switched off and 'washed' hands off
- there were too many triggers and compulsions to consider
- there was time compression and decision had to be taken in a few hours

We often tend to forget that as viewers we have the convenience of a 360 degree view...we know what happened at saras-end...but in the story when saras called kumud had no perspective

...So she did MAKE the best choice at that time considering the cards she was holding...

EDIT: If we allow other factors to let off kumud off the hook...then the extensiongoes back and back...logically we will end up saying that it was saraswati who is the culprit...she did not 'understand' LN's ambitions, left saras etc. etc...

What I have really loved about the treatment of this is the maturity & pragmatism shown by kumud...yesterday she took this on the chin...after their heartfelt convo...there is regret but no recrimination... I guess she has forgiven saras, forgiven herself too, understood her and saras current locus standii ...and now looking at the next steps...so she continues to make choices again given the cards she is holding...Isn't this what all of us do in our real lives everyday?
😊

p.s.
To give credt, saras too is more or less behaving maturely like kumud...but relatively speaking kumud is in deeper shit...so I feel her coming to terms is more grander since it is more difficult

Agree, even I didnt expect CVs shoiwng Saras and Kumud communication...I was thinking it will happen in Act 3. It was treat to watch today's episode.

Originally posted by: smrth

These are the questions/lined that G.M.T.'s Kumud faced day in night out. She didn't got hold anywhere. And as we were noticing. These are her real conflicts. Battle of consciousness and conscience; consciousness is not giving up the indelible 'imprint'. Conscience is not letting up 'accepted' boundaries. ( please, let us not be judgmental on 'traditional', provincial, 'old fashioned', urbane etc. this is how she was penned.)

After knowing Pramad and Kalika relationship, I don't think she will accept Pramad as her husband...she may stay at BD house only for the sake of family honour.

.

Originally posted by: arshicritic

And then she took on, she was dying to tell him face to face, directly, what he had done to her. I just loved the epi and how the whole confrontation was handled.