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Posted: 12 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: smrth


Her dilemma starts. Her marriage, though rendered spurious by a sham husband, is still operative binding for her linear mind. Sindoor she received, Mangalsutra she accepted, her father's committed 'Kanyadan' she honoured, are more sanctified than the cherished memories she did live- once in a 'previous life'. For her, so powerful those chants around a sacred fire are, in one stroke, they demoted those treasured memories into a category of 'infidelity'! Such mortal is her 'moral' dilemma...
And this was the predicament, her renouncing 'fiance' had not accounted for when he pushed her off ostensibly for her own good!
And yet, amidst all this tumult, she is secretly cherishing a 'faith' restored- validated. A 'betrayal' banished, for it was never a 'betrayal' after all. But a fatal flaw triggered by externals...And what an 'assurance'! If oath bound husband is ready to push her off the precipice, the 'spiritual' husband is One shield between a falling death and herself- Protecting her like a wall of steel.
And he!? How does it feel to see her married? To see her so cheaply valued? To see her locked with such unmitigated 'horror' that he never envisaged in his worst possible nightmare? To see her 'crashing'? But above all, to see her 'dead' alive?! This is a curse, he would willingly trade his life with, if only it could set everything right for her. Unfortunately it can not.
Why today has to be so cruelly pungent while yesterday was so beautifully sublime; with her then and with her memories even today, even if excruciating.🤢


Smrth, the way you paint a picture with your words, I could again feel their pain, with even more empathy, than when watching the episode !

But now what? Why would she face abuse day after day, and continue in a marriage that gives her nothing but humiliation? At what point would it be ok for her to say enough, pack her bags and walk out?

This question is bothering me even more for Kumud, a girl who is not someone to take injustice, who always speaks out and takes a stand, why not here?
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Posted: 12 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: smrth


Lovely lines Arshi...!⭐️
But I disliked that dialogue from Saras, "ab ham kabhi nahi milenge..."...,,Cvs? Need you nettle us even during such heavy track?😡


I don't think it's a prediction smrth, it's more his despair. He still is not aware of the full ugly truth of this marriage, all he got was an inkling, for him probably, this marriage is forever and hence implying that they themselves are never to meet.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: IdiotViewer

Arshi... How your crisp bytes make me wish I was more proficient in hindi... I'm sure my enjoyment would have quadrupled! As it is, I find myself googling most of the words... I should thank you thus, for building up my hindi vocabularly, in addition to my evergrowing SC playlist... But, Silsila, I know... After all, it is cult. Tho, I'm sure you would agree with me, that our SC has gone a step beyond... Just yesterday, happychappy mentioned that SC is breaking the mould of TV shows being second to films, in terms of scale of screenplay and caliber of actors... With every episode I cannot help but agree. Give me a sub-standard product and I'll give you but two lines. Continue thus and I'll happily churn out essays appreciating and analysing each aspect of the show... And so would all of us here, in our own unique ways. The evidence is before us, in every CB.

If I may... "Mind dump" really does not do the quality of your Crisp Bytes justice... Been noticing that your beautifully broken lines have become more precise, more impactful and more... piercing as the episodes go by... I had missed telecast today... Marshall McLuhan had it right, the medium is the message... Watching on iDevices really does not have the same impact for me... So was quite composed while and after watching the epi... Till I read your CB's and I was back to yesterday. Not shedding tears, yet. But with eyes full of tears threatening to shed. That's the second time your words have done this to me... Somehow I suspect it won't be the last . But bring it on, you and SC both! 👏

First, an honorary mention to "Kuch Na Kahe"... Coupled with the flashback's, its charge becomes a hundred fold. Previously, it was my dose of oxytocin, but now as soon as the first bars play, I threaten to become an emotional wreck. Now I'm no one to proclaim, but I'm willing to bet that this has to be one of, if not the best, produced for a tv show thus far... Big props to the lyricist, the composer... To Javed Ali, Shreya Ghoshal for giving life to the song. To Gautam & Jennifer for brilliantly living it 👏

Performances: Today, both of our leads were giving tough competition to each other. Fortunately, we can appreciate them equally because their acting styles are quite distinct from each other... Jennifer, is v spontaneous in emotional scenes. She does not hold back at all. She breaks down completely and we break with her. The hesitance, the incoherence of Kumud, the affect of the overpowering ehsaas, looks so so natural. Hers is an honest act. Gautam, on the other hand, is a class act. His outrageously expressive eyes, the subtle changes in his expressions... Even his little-boy imploring look as Saras, asking "why me? why us?" is enough to shatter Kumud. As an actor, Gautam can stand his ground and make us break down. He has been doing so with consummate ease since the last two episodes. Ergo, full marks to Jenny and full marks to Gautam, today 👏

Loved the beautiful use of flashbacks, melded so naturally with the flow of the episode... And the Saras-Kumud convo was just genius. A conversation without words, yet pertinent topics like love, regret, complaints and anger were all expressed through the intensity depicted on both of their visage... And in their eyes, fathomless orbs, which became the conduit to their souls...

Symbolism, was rife today... The Dukh baa, Guniyal and Kumari convo... The placement: read it as both Kumari and Dukh baa keeping up from where VC had left... Both buffeting the tender, misplaced hope that Guniyal still nurtures regarding Kumud's destiny. In her heart, she knows, but at the same she will grasp for dear life whatever convictions others hold out to her. At the Desai household, everyone seems to have them aplenty. They are also heading for a majestic fall... Dukh baa has taken Saras' errings personal... It represents her private failure as a mother-figure in his life, and what makes it more worse, is than one "child" of hers, ended up hurting another, to the deepest extent. More than anyone, Dukh baa was the common tie, the launch pad for Saras' and Kumud's intimate realisations and now... She too has her every hope tied with Pramad... "Kumud ka bhag"... The fire in her eyes, the absolute conviction as she derides Saras as not being worthy... She may strengthen G's hopes, but what about her own, and what of them, when the mirror of Buddhi Dhan's respectability reflects Pramad back to them, no longer. She will be shattered, just like S and K are today, but Dukh baa's indirect culpability goes even further... Will she ever be redeemed in her eyes? Doubtful. Will she ever be able to gather the shattered pieces into something resembling a whole? She will. This I'll take the risk of saying. Gut instinct. Dukh baa's formidable. You would want to have her on your side. Because she will fight. She will fight till the very end. If need be, she will go down fighting.

Dukh baa also had the honor of uttering the most portentous line of the episode: Agar Kumud pe koi aanch aayo bhi toh uski raksha uska asli jeevan saathi karega... And the one with the rightful, lifetime claim does simply that. The method chosen... The pillar... The sheer viciousness and crudeness of the operation was very revealing of Pramad's psyche. And a warning to us all: The man is crude and his actions will be vile. Cue the shot-gun dulha and his quick-fix attempts to rid... the wedded baggage. Tho whatever he throws at Kumud, his target will multiply. And his aim, however precise will always waver and fall short. Because Kumud has a guardian angel. A fallen one, yes. Sans the wings and golden halo... but with his purity fully intact. So pristine that he shines. Remember the dark abyss Pramad threatened K with that wedding night? Well, Saras is waiting at the bottom now... Illuminating the path down. A footnote on the pillar itself: Intriguing that it was an implement belonging in a holy place, used as the chief instrument in the execution of a purely evil deed. One "fallen" battling another "fallen". Read it as: forget the Devil, Saras will even stand between, and shelter K from the holy, if need be. Witness the tainted holy pillar... Liken it to Kumud's tainted matrimonial institution. With that act of mortal rescue, S has but firmly inserted himself into the Pramad - Kumud - Kalika connect. He is her rescuer, by virtue of that mere fact, P already bears him ill-will... Tho, what of the fact that he is first and foremost her saviour, as she was once his?

Loved Buddhi Dhan's concern and affection for Saras. Adored his hand, caressing S' head. Something so "right" about it. Left more of a warm glow inside than the LN - Saras equation ever did... Left me wondering, has Saras already usurped the seat of affection, that Pramad could never quite gain? Point to be noted: Alak's dissaproval of Pramad... Etched clearly on her face. Even more intriguing, how the heir-apparent purposefully changed sides, choosing to stand next to her father (aligning herself with Saras, yet again)... Kumud's stunned at hearing her chandra's turned anew... And he for his part, abashed even, both realising that an integral essence has been forfeited.

Pramad, you are creepy, vile and your perception of the world and its people leave a lot to be desired. Right now, in addition to the vileness, all that's visible is the chip on his shoulder, and the ridiculous entitlement he carries. Further character dev may provide more substance, but hope no redeeming qualities surface. With that stupid life attempt, Pramad, you are out of chances. Not that you ever had any. Aanshul Trivedi, you've raised the bar. I'll take you anyday over Umess 🤢

Kumud and Saras... have transcended the physical. Their love now veers into the existential. It is innate and but an extension of themselves, representing all that is good, pure, and strong within them. More than any societal or moral ties, it is a check on their realities. Forget erasing the feeling, even temporary escape from it is downright impossible.

Kumud... What she was willing to be a pile of dismal charred ashes, still resembles a consummate blaze... The dawning realisation of events past, the flame of her burnt out love re-ignited and fully steadied, his betrayal cancelled out by his attempt, tho last-ditch unsuccessful it was... She utters joyfully the name imprinted on her soul... Breaks free, seizing the moment but halts...The first time ehsaas and conscience have clashed swords. She turns back and is mercilessly afforded a full-frontal view of who she now is... Her mangalsutra, not only the shackles of her feet, but also the noose around her neck. At Pramad's convenience to wring tighter whenever he is so inclined. Her sindoor, not only delineating she is now behind enemy lines... But also representing the life-blood he shed... She can but only utter, helpless, like a mantra, the name, the being, alone capable of plummeting her to her highest highs and dragging her down to her lowest lows... Saras... (Fantastic emoting by J, yet again! First-class 👏)

And for Saras... Still reeling from the darkest nightmare beheld... The first-hand experience of the hell, his choices have pushed her into... Stunned at the Devil who now has kabza over his rightful claim... The impatience and longing dancing in his eyes, thirsting for a meet (Gautam's eyes! Again, please take a bow 👏)... But his helplessness betrays his aim. He knows he cannot comfort her, not from this. Neither can he confront. Not like this. He recognizes a masterstroke of destiny for what it was... Though unaware that another is dead-set on making plays that both cannot anticipate, neither make... Pramad... His resentment increased. He no longer views K as just "samaan" but as more a pro-active tool intent on bringing him down, another usurper. In his desire to see her banished, he himself throws Kumud across the threshold her conscience had refused to let her cross.

From there on, the usual suspects take over: what drew them to that impenetrable, unyeilding barrier, like moths to a flame, but ehsaas? All questions asked, all tears shed, all regrets still hurting, all anger bubbling up, all wounds festering... Now what of them? Saras and Kumud, they will have to learn to act and react differently to each other. As simple as the subtle distinction between "in love" and "love"... From being "in love", they will have to adjust to loving each other. In love, is impatient. It tolerates no wait. Saras and Kumud, have a lifetime of hopeless anticipation in front of them. And only love for each other - unconditional, true - will see them through. Because if you love someone you do not do what S and K have done - you do not hurt, you do not humiliate, you do not ditch them at the altar! But if you are in love, a love that you have no control over, a love that transcends your existence, a love that consumes you and makes you take unbelievably stupid decisions and make even stupider sacrifices, then you do exactly what they has done. In love, makes you put your finger on the self-destruct button. Do it believing that you are in full control of your faculties. Do it for the greater good and end up heralding the greatest destruction imaginable. The high of "in love" is but a prologue to the crushing blow that will follow... And people in love, they live for these kinds of tragedies. And die in them... Thus they will still remain "in love" but the "love" component of the state will have to take greater prominence, if they are to make through this everlasting dark and stormy night... They have already been put into boxes... The "ladka" and their "bahu"... To sustain, they will have to operate within those very boxes.

Think of their love, as a phoenix, emerging from the ashes of its own conviction, security and even arrogance that it was sacred. Remember, hamara rishta atoot hai? Now... The innocence is gone. The security has been snatched. The claim has been usurped. And the re-birth has happened. Now it is only too aware of its insanctity and that makes it a phoenix worth protecting... Aaj unki daastan bhale adhuri hai, par mohabbat muqammal hai, ehsaas poori hai... Sochiye toh saath hai bhi kya, bas pal do pal ka mehmaan... Some people will always be a part of your life. And somethings you will do just because you know that they are important to someone. So will they have to.

Last word: Mohabbat ke dairon se bahar nikal kar mohabbat karenge. Aisi mohabbat karenge jo saath reh kar bhi log na kar paaye... At the end, we'll all be taught a wonderful moral... Sometimes it is the journey that matters, not the destination. This journey will steady and strengthen the spark of their love. Make it see its true potential... The end will only culminate it.


IViewer once again stunned and speechless by your writing. Special mention : Saras as the guardian angel, the symbolism of the pillar, the sindoor putting her behind enemy line, and the differentiation between love and being in love!

One the sheer elegance and beauty of your writing bowls me over, two the interpretation, the analysis, and the finer nuances that you bring out, add a whole new dimension to my appreciation of the show, gives a lot of food for thought and stimulates discussion!

Thank you so much for sharing so much with all of us on CB.

Mohhabat ke dairon se nikal kar mohhabat karenge - what a beautiful thought, if that's what you mean by poor Hindi, to pata nahi!

Sometimes it's the journey that matters not the destination - and we are so fortunate that SLB is chosen to take this journey again, so that even our generation can be a part of this mukammal mohhabat ki dastaan, adhoori or poori, not important at this stage!
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Posted: 12 years ago
#44
I cannot even dare to match up to you class writers so rather than me trying, could I pose a question?

Just say Kumud has forgiven Saras, what keeps her in the marriage with pramad? The latter keeps telling her to, she has been a no-nonsense woman. What keeps the soulmates apart?
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Posted: 12 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: psam4

uska asli jeevan saathi uska raksha karengi-outsatnding dialogue and he did it.

pramad what a cheap person.disgusting yuck. he deservs a tight slap from saras.i never hated any character like this. I am missing ghumaan. she is far better than this rakshas.
poor souls samud. today I felt more pain than yesterday. I seriously want to break the wall(pramad).
I wish to break his head with that pillar.whenever he touches her I was like😡.today what he did
chi chi. saras please save kumud from that rakshas.i don't want him to turn positive.kumud do something I'm missing sherni kumud.
p.s arshiji nice song selection and your shayari 👏


Welcome back psam4. Anshul is playing pramaad really well, has made pramaad appear lecherous, disgusting and hateful with no redeeming feature at all, when he touches Kumud, or comes even anywhere close to her, it's sickening to watch, so first kudos to the actor!

And yes, Guman seems like a billi now in front of pramaad!
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Posted: 12 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: *Reemz*

I cannot even dare to match up to you class writers so rather than me trying, could I pose a question?

Just say Kumud has forgiven Saras, what keeps her in the marriage with pramad? The latter keeps telling her to, she has been a no-nonsense woman. What keeps the soulmates apart?


1. Reemz, I have been a fan of your writing ever since SC started, so aap to aise mat bolo, your positivity and ability to always bring out the positives have helped us stay on when we were on the brink of quitting and walking away

2. I have posed just the same question just a while ago to smrth, we need to discuss this. What would be that compelling reason that will keep a girl like Kumud chained to pramaad ?

I somehow can't see her living a lie all the time, and more importantly putting up with abuse silently !
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Posted: 12 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: arshicritic


IViewer once again stunned and speechless by your writing. Special mention : Saras as the guardian angel, the symbolism of the pillar, the sindoor putting her behind enemy line, and the differentiation between love and being in love!

One the sheer elegance and beauty of your writing bowls me over, two the interpretation, the analysis, and the finer nuances that you bring out, add a whole new dimension to my appreciation of the show, gives a lot of food for thought and stimulates discussion!

Thank you so much for sharing so much with all of us on CB.

Mohhabat ke dairon se nikal kar mohhabat karenge - what a beautiful thought, if that's what you mean by poor Hindi, to pata nahi!

Sometimes it's the journey that matters not the destination - and we are so fortunate that SLB is chosen to take this journey again, so that even our generation can be a part of this mukammal mohhabat ki dastaan, adhoori or poori, not important at this stage!


Arshi, after soo long! 😳 Full credit for my evolving hindi goes to you! Your verses have compelled me to seek and better... If you feel my hindi has progressed, just imagine the wonders it would have done had this CB been an oral/aural experience! As such my words greatly surpass my diction, so much so that I would not dare attempt 😆

Only two things are keeping me: First, the show, and second, the caliber of the discussions and the creativity expressed in CB. Even when SC will have its sub-par days, I would still not jump ship only and only because of what I have gained from these threads that you create and allow to flourish. Where SC will fail, the CB and its participants will compensate. Of that I'm v sure. And yes, how lucky we are indeed. A certain generation holds these volumes quite dear to their heart and now, we too can partake in and appreciate the magic, the resonance of years past.

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Posted: 12 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: mandygill

loved those lines from silsila, i have seen that movie countless times, one of my favorite movies! again very apt analysis..acting wise they were great..all three, but i found gautam's acting more natural, the way he was showing his pain looked so real! i hope it wasn't for real..at this point its hard to say what will happen next and how the story will unfold, till now its going according to the old movie, lets hope that whatever they show it jells well with today's time and age and also with the audience!


Gauti's acting - small things, the way he sat down on the floor, wincing, I could actually feel his pain, the panic in his eyes - the same expression he had when he went to the lake for the first time, and remembered his mothers suicide - the same all is lost right in front of my eyes look, the questions, regret, repentance, all so wonderfully done, you are tight Mandy, the man is a natural!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshicritic


1. Reemz, I have been a fan of your writing ever since SC started, so aap to aise mat bolo, your positivity and ability to always bring out the positives have helped us stay on when we were on the brink of quitting and walking away

2. I have posed just the same question just a while ago to smrth, we need to discuss this. What would be that compelling reason that will keep a girl like Kumud chained to pramaad ?

I somehow can't see her living a lie all the time, and more importantly putting up with abuse silently !


There are of course, "ties that bind" Arshi, her family (healthy ego), her Alpha nature, the "three mothers theory", the expectation to live up to Gunsundari's legacy, the MIL's aspirations for her regarding Pramad, her conscience, which stopped her today... But this all is nullified if she comes clean. If she does not, despite Saras being in front of her, she still has many reasons, demanding compulsions to make a go of her marriage. Will she be Alpha or Beta? And what will Saras be? Lots of pawns on the chessboard. Lots of different motivations. And not to forget, the main fallout is yet to happen. Half the pawns are in the dark... Revelation is yet to happen.
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Originally posted by: IdiotViewer


Arshi, after soo long! 😳 Full credit for my evolving hindi goes to you! Your verses have compelled me to seek and better... If you feel my hindi has progressed, just imagine the wonders it would have done had this CB been an oral/aural experience! As such my words greatly surpass my diction, so much so that I would not dare attempt 😆

Only two things are keeping me: First, the show, and second, the caliber of the discussions and the creativity expressed in CB. Even when SC will have its sub-par days, I would still not jump ship only and only because of what I have gained from these threads that you create and allow to flourish. Where SC will fail, the CB and its participants will compensate. Of that I'm v sure. And yes, how lucky we are indeed. A certain generation holds these volumes quite dear to their heart and now, we too can partake in and appreciate the magic, the resonance of years past.


What do you think will keep Kumud in this relationship, re Reemz question above, I too have the same question and can't figure out the answer.

Edit - you already answered as I see above!
Edited by arshicritic - 12 years ago

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