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Posted: 12 years ago
#51
@psam4

Wow what a wonderful explanation, I would recommend everyone should read this

It really gives a good perspective to astrology, what it is in its pure form and how it is being misused

By commercial interests.

And your information on Shiva Parvati Ram Sita Vivah being in different muhurtas, I had no idea, thank you for pointing that out

I wish our CVs also had done that sort of research!

Great post, so informative

You know, when I post CB , I have no idea which direction it will take , what new learnings and ideas will emerge, and today once again, one line in the show has created so much learning for us

Thank you again


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: mandygill

arshi, agree with u the episode was so so..no romantic scenes today😕..i guess they were not required since the main focus was on kumari's story..i liked her part pf the story as well, at such a young age she acts so well..was quite impressed by her, the rest was just a filler, both gauti and jenny were alright today..they both lacked the soul and the spark..again, maybe because not much focus on them that is why their scenes were kept subtle..


True Mandy, agree with your assessment of the epi, and Vinita joshi thakkar as Kumari is really good!

Waise to even chulbul pandey is doing a good job as the slimy boyfriend, Sahas Rai looks creepy
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshicritic


True Mandy, agree with your assessment of the epi, and Vinita joshi thakkar as Kumari is really good!

Waise to even chulbul pandey is doing a good job as the slimy boyfriend, Sahas Rai looks creepy



i have a feeling arshi that the separation track is on its way..that is why samud scenes r getting less and less..the pms was the peak of their romance, now its downhill from here on😕
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshicritic


Maybe, Danny Kumud encounter, but I am still hoping Danny will be a decent guy and not Guman gang ka goonda. But he might be her evil senapati



Hmm, my dil garden garden over Dikra telling Kumud that he will not let anyone come between them

Samarth, did you hear that? We are all so caught up the astrology discussion😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: mandygill



i have a feeling arshi that the separation track is on its way..that is why samud scenes r getting less and less..the pms was the peak of their romance, now its downhill from here on😕


That would be unfair!

We need some more romantic, close scenes after PMS Rona dhona, before separation, please

Last memories of them together have to be some good romantic scenes
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Infofan



Hmm, my dil garden garden over Dikra telling Kumud that he will not let anyone come between them

Samarth, did you hear that? We are all so caught up the astrology discussion😆


Like Vaishali I too am wondering why the school picnic, what's the significance of that?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshicritic


That would be unfair!

We need some more romantic, close scenes after PMS Rona dhona, before separation, please

Last memories of them together have to be some good romantic scenes



true arshi, we all want that, but the story has to move forward..maybe they might put a few, but not for long..i think it all depends on the trps now..hamare dil ki dor ab trps ke haath hai😕
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshicritic

@psam4


Wow what a wonderful explanation, I would recommend everyone should read this

It really gives a good perspective to astrology, what it is in its pure form and how it is being misused

By commercial interests.

And your information on Shiva Parvati Ram Sita Vivah being in different muhurtas, I had no idea, thank you for pointing that out

I wish our CVs also had done that sort of research!

Great post, so informative

You know, when I post CB , I have no idea which direction it will take , what new learnings and ideas will emerge, and today once again, one line in the show has created so much learning for us

Thank you again




@psam4..
nice perspective on astrology.

Just sharing..

...from a physics perspective there are different forces of nature...gravity (how do things hold up together, why does the earrth revolve around the sun and not go into the sun), electromagnetic (reason behind electricity), nuclear (how do atoms which constitute matter retain their shape) etc...these are all forms of energy...

theoretically since the origin of all forces in the universe is the same and the total energy in the universe is constant ..there should be an equation that helps convert one force into another (sort of like translation)...scientists have still not been able to find a theory / equation which can universally help convert each known force into another.

.. so its like you see individual pieces but not how they fit together...

..in the world of physics this is a huge huge matter... scientists are devoting entire lives and careers to figure this out ...why is this huge?...one, it helps to figure out how the world works and two, once you figure it out there are real-world applications ..

...for e.g. Einstein got the Nobel prize because he figured out the equation to convert energy stored in mass...that led to better understanding of how the universe functions at an atomic level...and all the applications of that theory...
- the atom bomb,
- the entire nuclear industry which generates electricity (get it?...nuclear energy stored in atoms is used to produce another form of energy..electricity)
- the entire radiation therapy (cancer treatment) industry and medical imaging (CT, MRI) industry.
- the entire modern semiconductor industry (all PC, mobile devices etc.work on chips which work at atomic level when they do the work for us...knowledge of how atoms work helps in creating faster and faster chips in smaller and smaller space...thats why new gizmos are smaller and faster)
- the entire nano technology industry which is just beginning (you are going down to electron level here)..

.if you look at high end physics ...there is currently tremendous interest in something called string theory..

NOW...string theory is one of the front runners among many theories which shows the most promise to crack the unified equation ...

as it gets developed is pointing to something mind blowing...it is indicating...
- that somehow the universe is more intimately connected then thought possible
- the universe is existing in 5 - 7 dimensions. (We knew only 3 dimensions..length, breadth and depth...Einstein's theory discovered a 4th called space-time...another reason for his Nobel prize).
- it is indicating that the universe is like a web..and each and every particle in the universe is connected to the other and exerts influence over each and other particle...through known forces (however small) and unknown ones (who knew about nuclear force before Einstein deciphered it!).
- that's why its actually called string theory...every particle connected to every other particle by forces like strings attached between them!

- it is making the scientists crazy..since it goes against all their preconcieved notions of the universe...but it is the only correct model so far which is going a long way in explaining the Why and How.

AND here is where astrology probably comes in...I am not looking at astrology from a horoscope perspective..what will happen to you today...or do this pooja or that pooje...but the kundali...

What if:
- at the time you were born, there were strings of forces attached to different planets..
- at the time when you arrive in this world and the brain cells are awaking...the net sum of forces of a conjunction of planets (gravity, others) interacted say with the cells and atoms of your brain (mind )and made infinitesimal changes in them...like programming
- then these programmed cells work in a certain fashion...thereby going a long way in creating your personality and point towards how you will behave / respond to given circumstances..
- that determines how you will respond to stimuli all your life...
- which then gives an indication of your path in life...for e.g. if your mind is programmed to become prone to panic attacks under pressure...then anyone who understands kundali can pretty much predict an outcome for a person who is facing some unpleasantness..
- you could now 'read' the way forward between two kumdalis of two people..

What if:
- all this information was distilled into a guide used by great astrologers!

Oh..Oh.. Just saw the length of this post...Maybe I digressed too much...

Neways the point I wanted to make to smrth is that
- maybe there is more to it than we know...pure astrology is maybe a science forgotten through the ages...(I do not know if any culture prepares kumdalis with planetary positions)...
- maybe we will have to wait for the west to endorse the science before we acknowledge it ourselves...we need a certificate from the west before we accept our science (like yoga...it became glamorous after the west adopted it).
- I dont personally believe in astrology ...but I am curious still...

About saras
- dikra had nothing else to do all the time he was alone...maybe he took this up as a hobby...
- in the novel saras is a master of sanskrit...maybe this is an adaptation
- it formed a cute scene yesterday...will it get ominous is to be seen...I want the 15 days to go by fast...do not like kumud going out of sight / out of the safety of the desai haveli for 2 days before these 15 days are up...

chalo...gotta stop...too much written...

arshi
taking liberty of posting slightly unrelated topics on your thread...hope thats ok.




Edited by hotdogg - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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loved ur post hotdogg, impressed by ur level of knowledge! the cvz beware u r dealing with well read people here, u better get ur tracks straight before u pen them down..no room for logic ki waat😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: hotdogg



@psam4..
nice perspective on astrology.

Just sharing..

...from a physics perspective there are different forces of nature...gravity (how do things hold up together, why does the earrth revolve around the sun and not go into the sun), electromagnetic (reason behind electricity), nuclear (how do atoms which constitute matter retain their shape) etc...these are all forms of energy...

theoretically since the origin of all forces in the universe is the same and the total energy in the universe is constant ..there should be an equation that helps convert one force into another (sort of like translation)...scientists have still not been able to find a theory / equation which can universally help convert each known force into another.

.. so its like you see individual pieces but not how they fit together...

..in the world of physics this is a huge huge matter... scientists are devoting entire lives and careers to figure this out ...why is this huge?...one, it helps to figure out how the world works and two, once you figure it out there are real-world applications ..

...for e.g. Einstein got the Nobel prize because he figured out the equation to convert energy stored in mass...that led to better understanding of how the universe functions at an atomic level...and all the applications of that theory...
- the atom bomb,
- the entire nuclear industry which generates electricity (get it?...nuclear energy stored in atoms is used to produce another form of energy..electricity)
- the entire radiation therapy (cancer treatment) industry and medical imaging (CT, MRI) industry.
- the entire modern semiconductor industry (all PC, mobile devices etc.work on chips which work at atomic level when they do the work for us...knowledge of how atoms work helps in creating faster and faster chips in smaller and smaller space...thats why new gizmos are smaller and faster)
- the entire nano technology industry which is just beginning (you are going down to electron level here)..

.if you look at high end physics ...there is currently tremendous interest in something called string theory..

NOW...string theory is one of the front runners among many theories which shows the most promise to crack the unified equation ...

as it gets developed is pointing to something mind blowing...it is indicating...
- that somehow the universe is more intimately connected then thought possible
- the universe is existing in 5 - 7 dimensions. (We knew only 3 dimensions..length, breadth and depth...Einstein's theory discovered a 4th called space-time...another reason for his Nobel prize).
- it is indicating that the universe is like a web..and each and every particle in the universe is connected to the other and exerts influence over each and other particle...through known forces (however small) and unknown ones (who knew about nuclear force before Einstein deciphered it!).
- that's why its actually called string theory...every particle connected to every other particle by forces like strings attached between them!

- it is making the scientists crazy..since it goes against all their preconcieved notions of the universe...but it is the only correct model so far which is going a long way in explaining the Why and How.

AND here is where atstrology probably comes in...I am not looking at astrology from a horoscope perspective..what will happen to you today...or do this pooja or that pooje...but the kundali...

What if:
- at the time you were born, there were strings of forces attached to different planets..
- at the time when you arrive in this world and the brain cells are awaking...the net sum of forces of a conjunction of planets (gravity, others) interacted say with the cells and atoms of your mind and made infinitesimal changes in them...like programming
- then these programmed cells work in a certain fashion...thereby going a long way in creating your personality and point towards how you will behave / respond to given circumstances..
- that determines how you will respond to stimuli all you life...
- which then gives an indication of your path in life...for e.g. if your mind is programmed to become prone to panic attacks under pressure...then anyone who understands kundali can pretty much predict how an outcome for a person who is facing some unpleasantess..
- you could now 'read' the way forward between two kumdalis of two people..

What if:
- all this information was distilled into a guide used by great astrologers!

Oh..Oh.. Just saw the length of this post...Maybe I digressed too much...

Neways the point I wanted to make to smrth is that
- maybe there is more to it than we know...pure astrology is maybe a science forgotten through the ages...(I do not know if any culture prepares kumdalis with planetary positions)...
- maybe we will have to wait for the west to endorse the science before we acknowledge it ourselves...we need a certificate from the west before we accept our science (like yoga...it became glamorous after the west adopted it).
- I dont personally believe in astrology ...but I am curious still...

About saras
- dikra had nothing else to do all the time he was alone...maybe he took this up as a hobby...
- in the novel saras is a master of sanskrit...maybe this is an adaptation
- it formed a cute scene yesterday...will it get ominous is to be seen...I want the 15 days to go by fast...do not like kumud going out of sight / out of the safety of the desai haveli for 2 days before these 15 days are up...

chalo...gotta stop...too much written...

arshi
taking liberty of posting slightly unrelated topics on your thread...hope thats ok.





Hotdogg two points before I comment on the post itself :

1. Not my post, our post.

2. Not completely unrelated, this has been the focus of this CB


So now on your post - loved it, very simply put and explained

And after reading you and psam4 and my own understanding of it

It was always a science and not steeped in superstition, a science that charted the position of stars and planets at significant times and observed certain patterns based on that

A thorough understanding of these patterns, and human psychology probably could lead to fairly accurate predictions in the hands of a master

Over the years got diluted, misused, abused and hence the cynicism around it

Many of us including me have been fascinated enough to contemplate studying it with a view of knowing what is the reality behind it, and how much of it is scientific and how much just mish mash

So, Saras having delved into it doesn't sound odd to me, but yes on his timeline how and where he could have fitted it a matter of conjecture, minor however and insignificant to the story

But will it have an impact? His knowledge of astrology is again a part of a plan or just another cute adorable trait of dikra, is the question that has been niggling me

And I loved the simplified way you have explained the complex theory, universe is one of my fav subjects

I would have asked you to put this up also as page one , but you are right, not entirely related to the epi. And too technical maybe for those not similarly fascinated .

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