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Posted: 12 years ago

#81

Originally posted by: happychappy

Trying to get my head around yesterday, still... As usual, the posts on here are helping me, but hgg-bhai, what was Kumud doing wandering about with that garland? She produced it and garlanded Saras first, if I am not mistaken... Did she leave the haveli carrying the garland?

I could go along with all this girl-brought-up-in-village logic if the character of Kumud had not been portrayed the way she has been right up until now. She has been shown to be smart, mature, independent, high emotional-IQ, comfortable in her own skin, secure...Her consenting to something so significant and then indulging in high-voltage dramatics goes against the character that has been built up over these weeks and months.

@happychappy..

as I have said,,,she was all lovey dovey in a very simple way...PMS not on her mind at all...she's meeting saras for the first time after he proposed ...notice that saras asks her for her response to his proposal...she feels shy and instead of saying yes, she puts a garland around his neck to express her acceptance...maybe she carried it to put it around his neck...but it was a very sweet way of expressing her yes...then she actually trys to go back, when saras foot goes in the paint ...and events unfold...

as @vaishali has very beautifully put...things went from one step to another for both...but it was probably saras who started to drive it and resulted in PMS...no manipulation ...but due to the process again wonderfully desribed by @vaishali...

When she's smart, mature, independent, high emotional-IQ, comfortable in her own skin, secure as you pointed out...it also means she has:

- a very strong moral compass

- acute sense of right and wrong & adherence to her sense of right and wrong...we liked it when she stood by saras on the gau hatya, got yash arrested

- pride in the trust her parents have on her...for e.g. remember the dialgoue between VC & her on the night of the storm...VC tells her that even if she was out the whole night with saras he would not be worried since he knows she would do the right thing...

Now this knife cuts both ways...such a person cannot turn the above on & off as the situation demands...

Now from a cultural upbringing (not our sensibilities but hers according to the story context) PMS even with a man you love under the circumstances it happened should not have happened...

...she consented because she wanted it too because she loved saras...OR she consented because saras wanted it and so she wanted it?...which came first?

...for most boys and girls (even the most modern girls) ...the first time you do it will become one of the most signifcant events of their lives...

she went along and had PMS without the official sanction of a formal marriage, on the day her proposal was formally announced, without anyone's knowledge, without planning for it...

so for her...she has broken her own rules, her parent's trust...and there is no going back for her to her previous state...

I think its more or less in line with her character...she's horrified with herself not saras...

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hotdogg

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Posted: 12 years ago

#82

thanks vaishali @ smrth...

your inputs helped clear the foot washing scene I had not liked earlier..

its feels much better now..

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Infofan

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Posted: 12 years ago

#83

Originally posted by: Adiani

Exactly Vaishali. There was not even a cliched "two flowers touching" indication of what's the scene about! Next day, The character had to spell it out and shock audience simultaneously, " kal jo hua , .. paap".
The messed up precap only suggest, someone at the helm is confused enough. They donot know themselves what order is the sequence of events .

Yup Vaishu, something was off yesterday.

CVs seem to be scrambling. The leads themselves mentioned in interviews that writers felt pace is slow so brought in the PMS at this stage.

CVs might not have planned to show anything really bold to begin with. I also feel that the channel might have asked the PH to tone down the scene after the media hype.

Quoting from my own post - -
I wonder if there was there pressure from SP who likes to play it safe and pride themselves on their shows promoting values and morals to make some changes, to tone it down after the media went crazy with reports of bold scenes!! If PMS was such an issue, don't approve the script from PH.

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happychappy

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Posted: 12 years ago

#84

Originally posted by: hotdogg

I think its more or less in line with her character...she's horrified with herself not saras...

You almost convinced me there, hgg-bhai, but not completely, only because it's Kumud! If her moral compass said no, she would have stopped herself and Saras, too.

Let's agree to disagree on this one?😊

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MistyDawn

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Posted: 12 years ago

#85

Originally posted by: Adiani

Exactly Vaishali. There was not even a cliched "two flowers touching" indication of what's the scene about! Next day, The character had to spell it out and shock audience simultaneously, " kal jo hua , .. paap".
The messed up precap only suggest, someone at the helm is confused enough. They donot know themselves what order is the sequence of events .

I wasn't actually looking for any symbolism there.. It was clear to me that they did make love.. But now when I watched the scene again, I though Kumud was not looking hesistant and in two minds before she walked away with Saras .. So her reaction the other day was a little hard to relate to.. That might actually leave a scope for flashbacks.. I think they have shuffled the tracks.. I havent watched the bits where they showed Kumari's boyfriend.. Sahas Rai has also disappeared after that spooky entry during the dandiya night.. I have a feeling that Saras bailing Dukhba and Kumari out of this problem, may lead to Kumud's ''change of heart'' they were talking about in last week's spoiler .. damn the spoilers! 😆Also, Guman's phone calls with Danny, makes me feel that Saras might be sent of to London to help his brother..and that's when Guman is gonna attack an already vulnerable Kumud with no Saras on her side to protect her.. Though this is a twist in the smooth romantic run of events happening for a while, I don't think this will lead to the actual separation.. It has to be something bigger than this..

Edited by vaishali-AR - 12 years ago

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hotdogg

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Posted: 12 years ago

#86

Originally posted by: happychappy

You almost convinced me there, hgg-bhai, but not completely, only because it's Kumud! If her moral compass said no, she would have stopped herself and Saras, too.

Let's agree to disagree on this one?😊

Not a problem at all...

Recollected the blurb from the movie 'Crazy, Stupid Love":

"Crazy, Stupid, Love" knows that love is not easy, but sometimes exhilarating and sometimes downright stupid.

😎

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MistyDawn

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Posted: 12 years ago

#87

Originally posted by: Infofan

Yup Vaishu, something was off yesterday.

CVs seem to be scrambling. The leads themselves mentioned in interviews that writers felt pace is slow so brought in the PMS at this stage.

CVs might not have planned to show anything really bold to begin with. I also feel that the channel might have asked the PH to tone down the scene after the media hype.

Quoting from my own post - -
I wonder if there was there pressure from SP who likes to play it safe and pride themselves on their shows promoting values and morals to make some changes, to tone it down after the media went crazy with reports of bold scenes!! If PMS was such an issue, don't approve the script from PH.

Nandy, SLB honestly doesnt seem like someone who would care about media and what they have to say.. 7.30 pm time slot is crucial.. Like I said in the pm, they chose a bold theme over a superficial explicit intimacy.. I haven't seen explicit sex scenes in his movies too.. they are more about the feel.. if you look at the actual scenes.. there is so much craving of physical desire to be one expressed in that scene, specially by Saras when he caresses her face and hands.. Kumud hadn't anticipated to go to that extent at all..but Saras did because he was seeing Kumud in a whole new light.. more as his wife.. remember how he said ''ye hamara haq hai'' remember how he says tumhare paas ana meri... *pauses* and then bhool thi.. because he doesnt think so.. he has accepted her as his wife in every sense of the word..now nothing can change that for him.. not after the physical union..

Edited by vaishali-AR - 12 years ago

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Arshics

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Posted: 12 years ago

#88

What wonderful discussion stupid office I hate my job

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smrth

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Posted: 12 years ago

#89

Originally posted by: vaishali-AR

Now coming to the scene itself..., Kumud putting the garland on him in my opinion, triggered the whole scene.. Saras was just expecting an affirmation but exchanging garlands on the auspicious night of full moon, took the whole thing on another level... Her washing his foot with her hands and wiping it with her dupatta was the next trigger.. i didn't feel it regressive at all.. if he can take her injured foot on his lap and tend to it as if he was caressing a flower, why is it regressive if she does it for him..? It is the willingness of a highly self esteemed woman to serve her man out of love that comes across through this scene for me..she made Saras feel that he has a special place in her heart..Loved his expression.. he was too overwhelmed to even stop her.. Wife touching her husband's feet is not regressive for me.. its just a gesture of respect from the woman's side for her man and if it gets reciprocated by the kind of love Saras has for Kumud, why should it be regressive.. I find it very beautiful.. I thought that scene was very SLB.. The effect that gesture had on Saras was like a point of no return... He viewed her in a completely different light from there on... His intentions very pure and very clear... he wanted to savour her, feel the emotion of loving and being loved.. '' her ehsaas, her jazbaat ko mehsoos karna chahta hoon'' he wanted to make love to her...he took her permission for that..When he was caressing her arms, it felt like his body was aching to make love to her... How could she resist those gentle caresses and those longing eyes.. she gave in...

And thanks Vaishali for this 'essay' that puts so many of our thoughts and posts- scattered all over the thread- so concisely.

@bold,

A fact that she brought it well deliberated, and his obvious pining for her answer- calling her out all the way- points to this. She was well aware of the 'question/approbation' in his mind and she was ready with her answer. after all he deserved his well earned prize from her😳...Isn't a Var mala is first stage of a marriage? Brides's first consent and affirmation...

@ underline,

Posted something similar...😆