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Posted: 12 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: smrth

Arshicritic,

First time Kumud was wrong in first part. She can not leave her partner belittled. Saras has Right to feel ignored there...
And why should he not feel slighted or jealous? Here he was- miserable, and there she was- flaunting her skill right in a field where he was inadequate..with other man?? No. If she is patient, it doesn't mean he too has to have that virtue...I do agree with his protest...

But in later part! YES! She recovered! Now Jenny that's what we call imbibing a character...in front of the Idols!! And who are creating these scenes! A Bow.👏



that makes snese, and he is anyway impatient and demanding where she is concerned

Saras with Kumud is so different from saras with the rest of the world - courteous, calm

@Nandy,,

you raised the point of his being nice to Guman, it is precisely this contrast that defines love as it means to Saras

kumud is his, and he wants that point delivered home, strongly, and as smrth just pointed out,

patience is not a part of his love for Kumud, it never was, a man who could put with dad and step mom's indifference for years, was not so accepting of same from Kumud, not for a moment

While he was content to step back in other relationships, with Kumud, he often made the first move and made things happen

i just hope, the way he fought for LN in VC LN fight, he will do the same for Kumud, if the time comes
Edited by arshicritic - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: hotdogg

kaadal...
..its a male thing... its not about possessiveness due to lack of trust in your partner or insecurity at all...saras tells kumud that he trusts her completely...
its about signaling to other guys that i am with her and she's with me and that's that and everything else none of your business!...its actually about not trusting the other guys who are getting friendly with your girl...
...and kumud understood this in those fab 3 lines saras said...and loved him more for that i think..



see, its a man thing!

the guys are able to relate to his behaviour so naturally😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: happychappy


I agree that today was the reverse tutorial as explained in your post...

I felt a lot of today's Saras behaviour was very old-fashioned! I think SLB is doing mix and match with Saras' character. One day he is a modern guy, the next he is wanting to stamp his name on Kumud in mehendi and declare he cannot stand her dancing with another guy. Not withstanding hotdogg's staunch defence, that smells of mothballs😕

Somehow the mehendi/sindoor scene is so stereotypical, even Samud couldnt inject a lot of magic into it! I think the CV's managed to flummox most viewers with the unexpected ending leaving us wondering at what next??

Isnt Srinathji the fav god of Gujarat? I have yet to visit a Gujarati's house that does not have him somewhere around. So quite logical the Desai ghar-ka-mandir would have him. Maybe we should not read too much dark symbolism into that... SP has a greater god...TRP maiyya ki jai ho! 😆



my head is buzzing, when i read your post,, i agree with you, then i agree with hotdogg and smrth, and with nandy and kaadal and all the others too

i just havent been able to figure it out

and that's what i like, the fact that we just cant slot it and explain it away!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: *Reemz*

The sindoor and mehndi were not any signs of foreshadowing. They are now married to each other by mind & soul. Nothing is going to change that, not even her 'real' marriage with Pramad. She is his and he is hers.

Saras' possessiveness should never ever go away. His vulnerability makes his love even more passionate. The way he shut the door on her and told her to leave...ouch! Such a stab in the heart SLB couple they are. They both hurt & ache for each other.

Running short on words.



Yes it was a marriage of souls yesterday, whether it happens later with social sanction or not

Dare I talk about marriage with Pramad yet? I think I will.

but Reemz, his vulnerability and possessiveness will make him shut Kumud out and maybe even blame her!!

sorry Nandy, but yesterday was too huge, and I think that more than any other scene, was a pointer to things to come
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Posted: 12 years ago
#45
@ all

what conflicting emotions that last scene has aroused in us

for the first time, none of us seems to be able to take sides and

stand this way or that way,

Does he love her less, and so shows more?

Is he the weaker of the two, so dominates more?

Will he be the one to give up tomorrow, so today demands more?

Was he wrong today, and just plain jealous without any reason?

Why did she not get offended by his "dadagiri"

Was Saras not Saras like?

Was Kumud not Kumud like?


Just for this complex uncertainity, I just love the way the scene was created

for me the rest of the episode doesnt exist

So thanks Nandy, for your post on it

SLB and team, 👏👏👏


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Posted: 12 years ago
#46
Beautiful post . 👏 I just love the song you chose for them , it just suits them . I wish someone makes a VM on it. 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
#47
as usual lovely post and to the point! agree with the rating, last scene was great, again our sc ishtyle! on the whole not bad, but the magic from yesterday's episode was still lingering on my head like hangover..and after seeing this episode aisa laga ke reality mein aa gaye..yeh dil mange more..want more of intense passionate moments of romance..shaadi ho na ho but romance zarooor ho😳!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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First off, Saras and Kumud's outfits were perfect yesterday as opposed to today. I did not like Kumud's outfit that much today. However, Saras rocked the pink shirt and GR is probably one of the few actors who could pull it off wearing a pink shirt and still look hot. His pants on the contrary were too boxy with odd fit. Now that my criticism about their style and dress sense is over I will get on to the meat of the episode which perfectly depicted the characters of Kumud and Saras. Saras is still being a kid in so many ways. He is still a little boy trapped in a man's body with his stubborness, insecurities, sensitivity and possessiveness when it comes to admitting his feelings for Kumud and taking it to the next level. I have to admit that he was still very cute when he was pouting seeing Kumud playing with Raghav. What stood out while they were playing was the statement that Kumud made where she says that "either you will get hurt in the process or you will hurt me (indirectly I guess as Saras would never knowingly hurt her and this I am basing off of his confession to Sunny where he wants to see her always smiling and happy". That statement could be interpreted in so many ways where we can see it as a foreshadow of things about to happen. My heart skipped a beat when she said that. I do have to say that instead of asking Saras whether he was OK when he fell it was insensitive of Kumud to laugh at him. Kumari on the contrary was so sweet when she took him away to teach him.


The last scene gave me goosebumps where he writes her name on her palm and she was exhilarated to finally cherish the feeling of being in love and being loved by someone so very deeply and sincelery. Kumud was feeling the rush of joy and immense semblance of peace when she ran to the God to pray and thank Him for giving her the insurmountable pleasure and joy. She lifts her head only for us to see the sindoor on her forehead and a feeling of peace and serenity washed over me as though they have gotten married for real. I was always worried about the tag line "mukammal mohabbat ki adoori dastan" but after the last scene I tolf myself that their union is meant to happen and it might take forever for them to get to that point and become husband and wife but mann hi mann they will be devoted to each other and will always be the cause of each other's pain as well as the salve to ease that pain. Today, it made me feel that they are indeed eternal lovers and no matter what they will always be united by heart.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#49
Wow. Once again I have been absolutely mind blown by such a brilliant post by Arshi, and the amazing replies. I still feel as intimidated as I usually do when I'm contemplating on whether or not to add my two cents... But I think today I'm going to face my fears and try! Bare with me guys! 😊

I feel like there's an underlying tone to why Kumud is behaving the way she is. Before, it was very obvious to us that Kumud was trying to nudge Saras out of his dukhi shell, and show him a few colours, and licks of life. But I think we really saw that, and there was special attention to this effort of hers because it was requested by Dukhbaa that Kumud should help him out. But I feel, now that they've taken their relationship about a kilometer or so further, and Dukhbaa's interference is limited, the approach Kumud is taking on nurturing Saras before she takes action when she's around him is less subtle.

Before, the situation was different because Saras wasn't being open about his feelings. He wasn't expressing himself to her. Now that Kumud has gotten him to do that, I really think that it's possible she's moved onto the next thing, which was showing him how she loves him, and the importance of a foundation of values such as trust, patience in a blossoming relationship. She used tactics such as not getting jealous and being patient and loving with him. However, again, she also explicitly explained to him how important trust was. Love = trust. And with Kumud's final reassurance we got to see the extent of Saras' insecure side. It's still apparent that he's emotionally damaged. And I think that, rather than trying to change Saras, Kumud has kind of accepted that he's possessive only because he admitted to her that he trusts her... that too, more than himself ... and that's a huge deal, considering Saras had deep trust issues not so long ago.

So that's why I think that what Kumud is doing isn't going against her character. Yes, she is certainly changing and developing, but I think she is staying true to herself because she's being accepting of who Saras is. She's being no different than she was before, when she was helping him overcome his personal grief and look at life with optimism. I think I would have a different opinion than I do now if Saras was being even slightly more aggressive, rather than just angry and brooding, and I'm definitely positive that Kumud would retaliate if her personal choices were being sacrificed. But again, I don't think that Kumud is being limited. If anything, she is growing because she's able to see how much Saras respects her.

And my two cents turned into 2 dollars... sorry for the essay!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hey Arshi, just got back after a long day. What part of my post are you referring to? I cringed after reading it. I was in a hurry to get somewhere so quickly jotted down whatever thoughts came to mind and it shows!! I am in the middle of preparing for guests arriving tomorrow and planning for a trip later, short on time. Please excuse the ramblings.

Every situation and character is complex and layered in SC, open to many interpretations.

I am going to attempt a few of your questions here '

It is rude to laugh at someone who falls. Kumud has seen before (twice) that Saras does not take it well if he looses or is ridiculed esp if Kumud is involved. She of all people should have been more sensitive. This may not be such an issue for someone else but it is for him. That was the first thing that got to him. As he himself explained to her, he trusts her immensely. He just can not tolerate another young man looking at her or getting her time or attention, something only he has a right over. Sharing is an issue for him as is the fear of loosing a loved one. * Edit 2 below

Then she teased him again outside his room that she and Raghav were childhood friends. Raghav dances well (a skill Saras lacks) and they have danced together before. She on her part was trying to get him to lighten up.

Then he was upset that she did not acknowledge his genuine efforts to learn dancing, just for her. He is expecting her to be patient and understanding like she was during the pottery making days.

Even when he was sulking, he was trying to explain to Kumud what was bothering him. She was too busy teasing him to notice. That is the positive change, he is able to explain his feelings and she listens, understands his POV.

We can only imagine what his childhood was like with Guman. The damage is deep. He is like a child with Kumud demanding love, attention and pampering knowing very well she will indulge. May 9th episode 'Kumud - kyon rokte ho mujhe baar baar. Saras - Kyonki tum ruk jaati ho. He does not share this relationship with anyone.

Someone made an analogy, she is like rain and he parched soil. It has rained after ages and the parched soil is soaking in all the rain to come alive, nourish itself. I think I just butchered it but I hope you get the essence of what I am trying to convey.😳😆

Saras is not like Saras with Guman maybe but with Kumud, he is himself. This is new territory for him. He has bottled up so many emotions for so long. They need an outlet. He is and along with him, we are discovering all his emotions, feelings, desires hidden deep inside him. He is dealing with a lot now, a whole new world of emotions. It will take him a long time to heal completely.

(Baring the few times Saras has shouted at her), Kumud is aware that Saras respects her, values her opinions. Saras will not try to subdue or suppress her. My concern is if he will support her when Guman plays nasty, not that our sherni needs support. Edit - he seems too passive around Guman. She seems to have some power over him from his childhood and that is scary.

Kumud is not one to be subdued. She is currently on a high of their mutual confession of love. Her dream came true, the love of her life loves her deeply too. They want to be together and they think their families would only be happy to bless them. She is happy, excited, dreaming of a life with him, at peace having his love. The man of her dreams who rejected the marriage now loves her and can not wait to marry her. It's the feeling of belonging to someone and the one whom you love claiming you belong to him. Its heady. Its new! It might become an issue for her after they have lived together for a while if he continues to be over possessive and over protective. But today, I am glad she was not offended by his dadagiri. A little shyness toh banta hai on such an occasion for desi dikris. Naya naya pyaar hai, pehli, pehli baar hai. Stranger things happen, yeh toh kuch bhi nahi.

The best part of SC ' the leads have conversations with each other, talking in complete sentences, letting the other explain their POV and try to understand it. How rare is that???

Another long post from someone short on time😆

Sindoor wala scene ka discussion later...

Edit 2 - the male pride and ego took a little hit as well, self explanatory 😛. I had wanted to add this yesterday, there are so many more things I would like to add, dont have the time or the energy.😳

Edited by Infofan - 12 years ago

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