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Posted: 15 years ago
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I myself, as a human being, is not at all against second chances in loveBut I would like to suggest something else too.
First and foremost, this is a fictional show.People get attached to the shows due to good story line and ofcourse jodis also plays an important part here.Bidaai has been gifted with excellent star cast from the beginning and also it had a very good story, something new which viewers got attached to....We have witnessed two wonderful love stories of Sadhna-Alekh and Ragini-Ranvir.
I agree to the fact that actors left on their own accord.But what which makes me furious, is how they deal with the current storyline after the leap.Apurva fans are indeed happy because they got back their favourite actor(I am not against Apurva in Bidaai)...But as far as I'm concerned, not only my favourites left the show but also they are ultimately continuing to waste the talent of my remaining 2 favourites Ragini and Alekh.
Sadhna was a nice character and after her death Ragini took a promise that she would do th role of Sadhna too.But what is that we are witnessing now....From the beginning Ragini is shown as a secondary character not even knowing to take right decission and always wanting someone for her support.Even after the leap, if they showed Ragini bringing up the two children on her own, looking after Alekh, and also helping in business affairs and so on, it would have given a new flavour to Bidaai.Apurva could have entered as a new character opposite to Ragini helping her without showing this remarriage and romance.We have seen a lot of Ragvir and Salekh romance.They could have shown us something different like this too.But now, still Ragini needs help from someone, she can't take decissions on her own and to an extent she is still sidelined.
About Alekh....what shall I tell.Angad is truly wasting his talent her.Past 2 years he had been shown as a pagal guy and now he's still shown paagal.Earlier when Sadhna was there, he got importance since people viewed him through Sadhna's eyes.But now, he is merely reduced to playing with kids, painting and for watching Tom and Jerry.What is all this????The only difference I saw in Alekh is old Alekh used to wear shirts but new Alekh wears T-shirts.Old Alekh feared his mom, God forbid, new Alekh don't have any fears.And right now they are dealing with the remarriage tracks with some girl who is already pregnant.How nonsensical!!!!
Regarding Sadhna, she is atleast remembered.But Ranvir's meemories are considered somewhat like an omen that even Tammy doesn't seem to know her father.Ragini who was so angry with Apu's character at the beginning, how come she became so close to him in weeks time???Then why did they show her angry towards him in the beginning.No picture of Ranvir in the hall, no rememberance (except Vasu) with the illogical reason of Ranvir having said to do so....And also how comicaly they handled Ranvir's death!!!! Ranvir who was one of the pillars on which Bidaai got it's name.
What more to say??? How can we accept new Bidaai?Let them show something logical first then we can think of giving chance to Bidaai.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: ding_dong

I myself, as a human being, is not at all against second chances in loveBut I would like to suggest something else too.

First and foremost, this is a fictional show.People get attached to the shows due to good story line and ofcourse jodis also plays an important part here.Bidaai has been gifted with excellent star cast from the beginning and also it had a very good story, something new which viewers got attached to....We have witnessedtwowonderful love stories of Sadhna-Alekh and Ragini-Ranvir.


I agree to the fact that actors left on their own accord.But what which makes me furious, is how they deal with the current storyline after the leap.Apurva fans are indeed happy because they got back their favourite actor(I am not against Apurva in Bidaai)...But as far as I'm concerned, not only my favourites left the show but also they are ultimately continuing to waste the talent of my remaining 2 favourites Ragini and Alekh.


Sadhna was a nice character and after her death Ragini took a promise that she would do th role of Sadhna too.But what is that we are witnessing now....From the beginning Ragini is shown as a secondary character not even knowing to take right decission and always wanting someone for her support.Even after the leap, if they showed Ragini bringing up the two children on her own, looking after Alekh, and also helping in business affairs and so on, it would have given a new flavour to Bidaai.Apurva could have entered as a new character opposite to Ragini helping her without showing this remarriage and romance.We have seen a lot of Ragvir and Salekh romance.They could have shown us something different like this too.But now, still Ragini needs help from someone, she can't take decissions on her own and to an extent she is still sidelined.


About Alekh....what shall I tell.Angad is truly wasting his talent her.Past 2 years he had been shown as a pagal guy and now he's still shown paagal.Earlier when Sadhna was there, he got importance since people viewed him through Sadhna's eyes.But now, he is merely reduced to playing with kids, painting and for watching Tom and Jerry.What is all this????The only difference I saw in Alekh is old Alekh used to wear shirts but new Alekh wears T-shirts.Old Alekh feared his mom, God forbid, new Alekh don't have any fears.And right now they are dealing with the remarriage tracks with some girl who is already pregnant.How nonsensical!!!!


Regarding Sadhna, she is atleast remembered.But Ranvir's meemories are considered somewhat like an omen that even Tammy doesn't seem to know her father.Ragini who was so angry with Apu's character at the beginning, how come she became so close to him in weeks time???Then why did they show her angry towards him in the beginning.No picture of Ranvir in the hall, no rememberance (except Vasu) with the illogical reason of Ranvir having said to do so....And also how comicaly they handled Ranvir's death!!!! Ranvir who was one of the pillars on which Bidaai got it's name.


What more to say??? How can we accept new Bidaai?Let them show something logical first then we can think of giving chance to Bidaai.




Very well said!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: ding_dong

I myself, as a human being, is not at all against second chances in loveBut I would like to suggest something else too.

First and foremost, this is a fictional show.People get attached to the shows due to good story line and ofcourse jodis also plays an important part here.Bidaai has been gifted with excellent star cast from the beginning and also it had a very good story, something new which viewers got attached to....We have witnessed two wonderful love stories of Sadhna-Alekh and Ragini-Ranvir.
I agree to the fact that actors left on their own accord.But what which makes me furious, is how they deal with the current storyline after the leap.Apurva fans are indeed happy because they got back their favourite actor(I am not against Apurva in Bidaai)...But as far as I'm concerned, not only my favourites left the show but also they are ultimately continuing to waste the talent of my remaining 2 favourites Ragini and Alekh.
Sadhna was a nice character and after her death Ragini took a promise that she would do th role of Sadhna too.But what is that we are witnessing now....From the beginning Ragini is shown as a secondary character not even knowing to take right decission and always wanting someone for her support.Even after the leap, if they showed Ragini bringing up the two children on her own, looking after Alekh, and also helping in business affairs and so on, it would have given a new flavour to Bidaai.Apurva could have entered as a new character opposite to Ragini helping her without showing this remarriage and romance.We have seen a lot of Ragvir and Salekh romance.They could have shown us something different like this too.But now, still Ragini needs help from someone, she can't take decissions on her own and to an extent she is still sidelined.
About Alekh....what shall I tell.Angad is truly wasting his talent her.Past 2 years he had been shown as a pagal guy and now he's still shown paagal.Earlier when Sadhna was there, he got importance since people viewed him through Sadhna's eyes.But now, he is merely reduced to playing with kids, painting and for watching Tom and Jerry.What is all this????The only difference I saw in Alekh is old Alekh used to wear shirts but new Alekh wears T-shirts.Old Alekh feared his mom, God forbid, new Alekh don't have any fears.And right now they are dealing with the remarriage tracks with some girl who is already pregnant.How nonsensical!!!!
Regarding Sadhna, she is atleast remembered.But Ranvir's meemories are considered somewhat like an omen that even Tammy doesn't seem to know her father.Ragini who was so angry with Apu's character at the beginning, how come she became so close to him in weeks time???Then why did they show her angry towards him in the beginning.No picture of Ranvir in the hall, no rememberance (except Vasu) with the illogical reason of Ranvir having said to do so....And also how comicaly they handled Ranvir's death!!!! Ranvir who was one of the pillars on which Bidaai got it's name.
What more to say??? How can we accept new Bidaai?Let them show something logical first then we can think of giving chance to Bidaai.




Well said Elsa (dharaa told me your name)👏 I too want ragini to move, becoz actors left the own their own and the RS has to continue the show. But they can nicely show ragini still thinkin of ranveer like the jail track or they can add something from the past It would have been more realistic. IIt is tammy who doesnt know her papa na but ragini can still think of ranveer and how she is slowling moving on. I must Angad parul and appurava is doing a great job.

Par who is going to listen to us.


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Posted: 15 years ago
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I said this earlier.Kinshuk is going to come in RS's CCBM,it seems they want to erase every bit of Ranvir and RagVir cos may be he wants ppl to accept him in a new role and with a new lead forming a new pair.Otherwise,we would have def seen some FB scenes between them and also there is a matter of not performing together on Azaadi which is such a damper cos KinRul always danced together in any function even its for a second!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: SPN_JD_Addicted

I said this earlier.Kinshuk is going to come in RS's CCBM,it seems they want to erase every bit of Ranvir and RagVir cos may be he wants ppl to accept him in a new role and with a new lead forming a new pair.Otherwise,we would have def seen some FB scenes between them and also there is a matter of not performing together on Azaadi which is such a damper cos KinRul always danced together in any function even its for a second!

I think they are doing that because they think it will benefit both shows and both new jodis (Kinshuk and new girl in ccbm and Ragini and Apoorva's character in Bidaai.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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tamushi, suchitra_1, Kinnary-partner
Firstly thanks for responding.
I will re-iterate that you have not understood my point. Because you are reading the post with the presumption that I am commenting against Ragvir-Salekh.
You seem to have also poresumed that I am against you or taunting you or lecturing you........I am not, for I do not even know you......but you do not see that I am just trying to highlight another perspective to you.
Let me try to explain one last time, Tamunshi and may I quote you if permissible.
You said to me you have two daughters....thats great and hope the best for them.😊
Now lets presume, you adopt a third girl child and to accomodate the adopted child you change the decor of your daughters bedroom. In doing that you ask them to share the bedroom with each other, and for some reason your daughters don't like the adopted daughter.
They raise their protest, one, twice, thrice, but if every single day they they say in more ways than one that they hate the adopted sister, and that she should be thrown out ..........then are you as a mother going to attempt to connect with them and explain why you adopted someone and that they should accept her........Or are you going to say, yes please do go on with your negative feelings.
I hope you realise that my post was not against feeling for Ragvir and Salekh or against you.......but it was meant to only state one simple point.......Life is too short and at the end of the day, when you look back, are you going to be happy about the fact that you gave precious moments of your life disliking a story line.
I rest my case ........perhaps I made a mistake by trying to give a perspective.
Good bye and good luck.😊
Edited by Kasturilover - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: ding_dong

I myself, as a human being, is not at all against second chances in loveBut I would like to suggest something else too.

First and foremost, this is a fictional show.People get attached to the shows due to good story line and ofcourse jodis also plays an important part here.Bidaai has been gifted with excellent star cast from the beginning and also it had a very good story, something new which viewers got attached to....We have witnessed two wonderful love stories of Sadhna-Alekh and Ragini-Ranvir.
I agree to the fact that actors left on their own accord.But what which makes me furious, is how they deal with the current storyline after the leap.Apurva fans are indeed happy because they got back their favourite actor(I am not against Apurva in Bidaai)...But as far as I'm concerned, not only my favourites left the show but also they are ultimately continuing to waste the talent of my remaining 2 favourites Ragini and Alekh.
Sadhna was a nice character and after her death Ragini took a promise that she would do th role of Sadhna too.But what is that we are witnessing now....From the beginning Ragini is shown as a secondary character not even knowing to take right decission and always wanting someone for her support.Even after the leap, if they showed Ragini bringing up the two children on her own, looking after Alekh, and also helping in business affairs and so on, it would have given a new flavour to Bidaai.Apurva could have entered as a new character opposite to Ragini helping her without showing this remarriage and romance.We have seen a lot of Ragvir and Salekh romance.They could have shown us something different like this too.But now, still Ragini needs help from someone, she can't take decissions on her own and to an extent she is still sidelined.
About Alekh....what shall I tell.Angad is truly wasting his talent her.Past 2 years he had been shown as a pagal guy and now he's still shown paagal.Earlier when Sadhna was there, he got importance since people viewed him through Sadhna's eyes.But now, he is merely reduced to playing with kids, painting and for watching Tom and Jerry.What is all this????The only difference I saw in Alekh is old Alekh used to wear shirts but new Alekh wears T-shirts.Old Alekh feared his mom, God forbid, new Alekh don't have any fears.And right now they are dealing with the remarriage tracks with some girl who is already pregnant.How nonsensical!!!!
Regarding Sadhna, she is atleast remembered.But Ranvir's meemories are considered somewhat like an omen that even Tammy doesn't seem to know her father.Ragini who was so angry with Apu's character at the beginning, how come she became so close to him in weeks time???Then why did they show her angry towards him in the beginning.No picture of Ranvir in the hall, no rememberance (except Vasu) with the illogical reason of Ranvir having said to do so....And also how comicaly they handled Ranvir's death!!!! Ranvir who was one of the pillars on which Bidaai got it's name.
What more to say??? How can we accept new Bidaai?Let them show something logical first then we can think of giving chance to Bidaai.

Thanks ding_dong
Totally agree with the bold portion above. The characters of Ragini and Aaalekh should be better fleshed out.
Regards
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Posted: 15 years ago
#18

@Kasturilover:

If I am mistaking you then can you explain what you meant by below as I found them very upsetting:

"I have to say this very modestly and honestly......that the above negative attitude.....shown by so called educated, sensible, girls and women from good upbringing families.......is very disheartening."

For ur last post :
you know I was very interested in adopting a child and had discussed with hubby.He said we can do that after having biological one first. I said its either going to be biological kids or adopted kids, not one adopted and one biological as I was sure I won't be able to justify/love same way to adopted kids after having a biological one.
So, in reply to your hypothetical example, I can't expect my kids accept/love the adopted kid same which I, myself can't do. This is the honest answer.However selfish I may sound.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamushi

@Kasturilover:

If I am mistaking you then can you explain what you meant by below as I found them very upsetting:

"I have to say this very modestly and honestly......that the above negative attitude.....shown by so called educated, sensible, girls and women from good upbringing families.......is very disheartening."

For ur last post :
you know I was very interested in adopting a child and had discussed with hubby.He said we can do that after having biological one first. I said its either going to be biological kids or adopted kids, not one adopted and one biological as I was sure I won't be able to justify/love same way to adopted kids after having a biological one.
So, in reply to your hypothetical example, I can't expect my kids accept/love the adopted kid same which I, myself can't do. This is the honest answer.However selfish I may sound.

Tamunshi
Firstly thanks again, I appreciate that you are attempting to discuss and I respect that😳
Yes I will explain what I meant by the above line which you have mentioned.
You and I belong to the educated class considering that we are well read , have access to literature and participate in forums. So we can safely say we are open to ideas and perspectives. Agree? I imagine both of us belong to an age group with is considered mature. So we can say that we can look at things objectively. Agree? I imagine both of us belong to families that are well bonded and forward looking, which stress on positive thoughts and development. Agree?
Now we both know that this is a serial right....and that after all its fiction......
So then why can we not take it in our stride.......Bidaai is a good serial but to make it so important to our lives that we use harsh words continously does not seem right to me.
Hope I was able to explain. My sentence was not to doubt anyones education or upbringing.😳
And no, you did not sound selfish😊. All I was saying is that if in a hypothetical situation you adopt and can give that equal love then would you have encouraged a negative feeling towards an adopted child....I think as a mother you would only encourage love towards an adopted child😳
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamushi

I think they are doing that because they think it will benefit both shows and both new jodis (Kinshuk and new girl in ccbm and Ragini and Apoorva's character in Bidaai.

It might benefit CCBM, but not Bidaai for sure.The creatives should have atleast thought about Bidaai, that it's gonna end this year, and hence should have finished it off in a better way so that it would have remained a good memory for us.Anyways, its just my POV.No offence to anyone...

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