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Posted: 15 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Ice-Thinker

Well ... about Ragini's character being ruined... unfortunately yeh bahut pehlehi ho gaya tha and you are a witness to it (be honest ... you have accepted this more than once).

And now what benfit are CT doing to her character? ... Smitha!!! ... be fare ... her action to hold Ranvir could not have been just left out! It was supposed to be noticed! ... The CT could certainly have done better not showing this. WHAT WAS THE NEED OF THIS?... think about it! ... I think this is what the topic starter is trying to stress.

Regarding Sadhna THROWING her husband in ... ... when one lets a son save his mother, its not THROWING him in. If a mother would die burnt and a son would feel that Ihe couldnt go and change things (which could be changed - even at the cost of his life) because someone stopped him ... would he be able to forgive that person. Maybe for Ranvir it can be different ... I dunno. Because ... ones own life cannot be priority in every single case.

Just like while saving the mother land life becomes secondary ... while saving the mother (janani) it becomes secondary too...

Ofcourse ... its not meant to blame Ragini. As I said ... those are her set of values which shape her mentality ... nowhere it can be termed as a crime. BUT WHEN SADHNA WAS MENTIONED COMPARING WITH THIS ACTION ... I had to say what was rightfully supposed to be said. Sadhna is a whole different human being with a completely different set of values and identity and thinking process. She would certainly not stop Alekh ... infact she would not be thinking such things at that time ... SHE WOULD NOT BE THINKING ABOUT HER LOSSES AND BENEFITS ... she would not only let Alekh decide for himself at SUCH A CRISIS ... but jump in herself too (as she has done). Aise log hote hain ... issi liye duniya tiki hui hai.

Now coming back to Ragini ... whatever the CT are doing is not helping Ragini ... but making her more and more average ... SHE WAS ALWAYS A PROMISING character ... there were more than one way to highlight her ... and each and everyone of those ways have gone begging.

I appreciate her support to Sadhna ... but there is always something missing. If you be honest (which I hope you may try to be in this case) you will recognise that too.

Well said I-T. 👏
You can explain things nicely.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: Ice-Thinker

Well I dont think its experimenting ... its just the way things are with the story. Its just the way she is ... good or bad ... take it or leave it ... this is her! ... Why must she be compared with Sadhna ... or Sadhna be brought into hypothetical situations and be proven to be like her. SADHNA IS DIFFERENT ... in every single episode and scene and situation it is repeatedly implied.

Ragini did what should could think best ...

Anyways ... as for Ranvir ... I feel he should've brushed Ragini's hand aside and jumped in! Thats my POV ...as the topic speaks about Ranvir more.

But then Sadhna is there ... not to worry. She will save Vasu. God SAVE MY SADHNA ... plastic surgery hone se ... I will throw Bidaai in the toilet ... Itne mushkil se waqt nikaal ta hoon main kiske liye ... agar wohi na rahe ... to bidaai kya aur judaai kya

Bas SADHNA ko kuch na ho ... itna karam kijo ha CT waalen... inta karam kiji

@ Blue : shhh don't speak it aloud ...please don't give such ideas to CT's ...if it happens it will be totally disgusting ,unacceptable,unethical etc etc
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Posted: 15 years ago
#33
Thats what I have been saying.Blame the CT's not Ragini or in this case Ranvir.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: Purehearts

I think Ragini holding Ranvir's hand was sort of undirected scene.
And naturally Ragini is holding Ranvir as he was wounded or something.But yes it can misinterpreted as well like Ragini did not wanted Ranvir to go.The scene was not proof read, may be the Ct's are not sensitive like us.
But what was appalling was Ranvir's actions during the fire was totally coming from a different brain.It can't be Ranvir, he was supposed to be our hero!!
Ct's have changed no doubt it👎🏼

@Ska_ka_su , first thing that comes to Sadhana's mind is always herself esp., while sacrificing ans serving.I don't think if she even thought for a minute if she could send some one else like Alekh.

I don't why here everyone is either considered Anti Sadhana or Pro-Sadhana.Why can't we have a discussion as a neutral viewer?


Once upon a time I tried to be neutral... but being neutral seems to be classified as pro-Sadhna too. Imagine ... the storyline is like that. I discovered that there is no way to be neutral and no be pro-Sadhna (those were the days of the infamous rift).
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: smitha80

Thats what I have been saying.Blame the CT's not Ragini or in this case Ranvir.

Yeh kya baat hui smitha? Aap to kitne samaajhdaar ho ... and you know I am saying that genuinely ...
The CT can be blamed for a story which is hurtful for a certain group....but at the end of the day THIS IS THE STORY ... and when we discuss story the characters will definately come into the picture. And then evaluation, analysis, criticism will come. This is how the forum survives.... why try to live in a dream world! The is the truth of IF.

This is the product of the CT ... either we take it or leave. And if we decide to take it ... then THIS IS THE PRODUCT (the story) ... and how here we discuss it, praise it, criticise it ... or analyse it. Simple.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sh_ka_su

Well..i completely knew that this thing of Ragini holding back Ranveer might come in forum........

Bani dear..i like the way you write......i just love to read you views on the characters..especially the way u mention about Ragini and how you want her to be more strong...

But today...i don't think creatives did anything wrong by showing Ragini holding back Ranveer..........if u see his condition he is already wonded...do you expect her to send him in the fire house again that too in such condition??......i think what Ragini did was not wrong........ any wise person would do that in this situation.........she has seen that Ranveer is so Badly wounded and he has just escaped Fire..so we cannot expect Creatives to show Ragini not stoping Ranveer right...........Ragini stoping Ranveer from putting his life to Risk is not wrong but very normal in this situation.......

Even Sadhana ..she herself went in to save Vasu...and did not send Alekh in........



I am not saying Rgaini is wrong,,,the script itself is bad, its written and directed like that,,,what can Ragini do?...can we expect something from the team that Ragini is shown in a better way...why all these tamashas for her character?

secondly, did u see, next moment they showed Sdahna jumping into the fire, somehow, I dont know how...
I am talking about the creatives and the direction...not Ragini...

Edited by Omshanti1111 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Instead of showing that, if the director could show that all three were held tightly by the neighbours, that would have made more meaning...

I dont understand why we cant have a healthy discussion, I mentioned in the opening post thats its a problem of the script and direction and not Rgaini. When someone points out this sort of mistakes, instead of fighting and finding fault with each other, the best part is to write in the blog in a polite way that this was not inappropriate for the character of Rgaini...so that the team knows how diligently we follow the show and that we are not without brains.

we are just having a discussion...

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Ab sub mere Ranvir ke peecheyy😕😭Ragini Bachaoo

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Posted: 15 years ago
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IT-the maker of the show itself agreed that they 'experimented' with Ragini and cos it didn't work out they had to revert back ASAP!So why are we still arguing over'this is the basic character of Ragini'I believe when he said that the rift had been planned but I don't agree that it had been planned the way it was shown.The FB scene where Ragini asking Sadhana for the dress itself made me open a topic saying how far are they going to degrade her character.Blaming,saying those stuff(not expected)but still understandable since everyone kept on saying that she was pampered so couldn't cope with the loss of a loved one and all that but in no way can I accept or believe that a girl like her would disrespect her father.That's how far how ruination went!That's not her basic character!
Now it seems Ranvir's turn cos the story needs to go ahead with Anand and illegitimacy track!Otherwise Ranvir being the detective he is could have identified Anand in the first few episodes

As for Ragini holding on to Ranvir part,may be she was leaning and holding onto him for some emotional support both for him and for herself.I don't think even the CT's realised how badly directed yesterday's episode was.
Edited by smitha80 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: smitha80

IT-the maker of the show itself agreed that they 'experimented' with Ragini and cos it didn't work out they had to revert back ASAP!So why are we still arguing over'this is the basic character of Ragini'I believe when he said that the rift had been planned but I don't agree that it had been planned the way it was shown.The FB scene where Ragini asking Sadhana for the dress itself made me open a topic saying how far are they going to degrade her character.Blaming,saying those stuff(not expected)but still understandable since everyone kept on saying that she was pampered so couldn't cope with the loss of a loved one and all that but in no way can I accept or believe that a girl like her would disrespect her father.That's how far how ruination went!That's not her basic character!
Now it seems Ranvir's turn cos the story needs to go ahead with Anand and illegitimacy track!Otherwise Ranvir being the detective he is could have identified Anand in the first few episodes



Ranveer is the smartest of the four..I can still understand the fire incident, but not his dumbness when Anand is considered..

another point is I dont think its necessary to show someone dumb to prove the other one intelligent...Two intelligent people can rather give better "takkar" to one another...


I think this track is just written very haphazardly, and there were forceful incorporations as well as alterations in the story line...

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