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Posted: 15 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Ice-Thinker

If your mother is burning in a room ... will you run requesting your sister, father or others to go in ... or would you rush in at the first instance to save time and effort ... and give a shot by yourself.

If your mother is about to be burned alive in a room ... as a daughter (or a son in my case) will I wait for my wife to advice me to run into the room brushing aside people who are trying to stop me?....

NO smitha.... I would not wait in any of the above condition. Because at that moment...only one thing matters....WHATEVER YOU CAN DO AT THAT SINGLE INSTANT....

Everyone by their own means....need to save the person they regard as their own mother.... or if the person is ACTUALLY ONES OWN MOTHER.

Sadhna didnt rush and had a meeting with Alekh on the need of him to rush it... because this duty is implied ... Just like Sadhna felt that its her implied duty aswell. THAT IS MY SADHNA'S PHSYCHE.

@choco: Certainly Sadhna would never have stopped him. BUT THESE THINGS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SAID ... these things are supposed to be DONE.

MOTHER is MOTHER... this matter is so high that the wife cannot stop ... or the son must not stop. MA ko jalte hue dekhna aur kuch na karna....isse battar aur kya ho sakta hai.

CERTAINLY Sadhna would not stop him ... incase HE WOULD HIMSELF volunteer to go it. But then again ... in these circumstances ... it depends on that perticular person.

The duty to save MOTHER is certainly MUCH MUCH MUCH higher than save ones life. Because Ma ... Ma hoti hai... and this must not be debated by people who love their mother.

By giving the temple scenario... its clear that Sadhna gives great and TRUE value to the mother+son relationship. Arre Alekh coming close to Vasu was also only due to Sadhna. I remember how beautifully she sent Alekh with his first income to Vasu ... I remember 😊

There are many more scenarios ... and its just visible if one wants to see ... although will never be seen if one wants to ignor or TRY DESPERATELY to avoid 😉

By the way ... India sends so many soldiers to the border to SAVE THEIR MOTHERLAND ... are all these soldiers unmarried? ... Saving mother/mother land is a duty which all sons and their wives are supposed to recognise.

But then its also true that many dont. And its not a crime ... and again ... I dont have any idea why Ragini stopped Ranvir ... only you guyz are saying that she gave priority to her husband even if it means that the price should be his own mother. Thats the choice each have to make for themselves ... its not a crime ... and I dont blame anyone.... JUST SADHNA WOULD NEVER DO THIS AND THAT IS CLEAR from all the scenes ... episodes...storyline etc.

^^ At the end... this entire thing does not mean that RAGINI is wrong. She just have a different set of values which shape her life ... and Sadhna should not be brought in and measured according to her... thats all.
Whatever Ragini did was not a crime ... even though Sadhna would certainly do differently (and is doing in some ways).
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Posted: 15 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: smitha80



Himani ji,well said!I am tired of even opening the topics lest I see Ragini being dragged into almost all the cases!
At least now we know how it feels to destroy a character for the sake of the story!

This serial is about Sadhna and Ragini. So in each and every thread these two girs are dragged. So cant help it.
Only thing we viewers have to respect the fact that though we have preferences for one character over the other, we should try to balance in the forum. So respecting everyone's liking for Ragini, I feel it would have been better if CTs show that all the three are held tight by the neighbours. This is not to say anything negative about Ragini at all. But, to show that even she tried to save Vasu, but neigbours didnt allow her. That would have given a better touch for her character (again in my opinion).
Now what she did is not wrong at all. She being a wife couldnt send Ranvir inside.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Yes Sadhna is her own person and woul react differently, but I just cannot believe that she would say Ok Alekhji go in the fire.
Also, once again, all the examples about Sadhna bringing mother + son together, are in a difefernt context altogether. Alekh's LIFE was NOT in danger under any of those circumstances, whereas in this situation, his life would clearly be in danger.
Anyways, we are talking about a hypothetical siuation.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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IT-since its a hypothetical Q,yes I would try my best to save my loved ones and yes it could have been anyone be it Ragini,Ranvir or Alekh but it wasn't meant to be cos that would do nothing to the story.But the eimplications(if not by words)once again says 'how Ragini is selfish and how she couldn't see anything beyond her husband'and all that,doesn't hold true to Ragini!

And people are worried abt character changes now.What happened when everyone shouted from the roof tops that this is not the basic character of Ragini?The posts itself still doubt her character and that shows how she's been ruined!
Edited by smitha80 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: Purehearts


I agree, lets not make this a big deal.
As if there are way too many arguments rather than healthy discussions here.I just can't understand how we are ready to defend the characters sometimes taking to a personal level.
These serials just take too much out of us, good and more bad actually!

Well said 👏
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Posted: 15 years ago
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ab yahan different set of value ke baat ho rhi to iam getting confused what that means.If sadhna is not concerned about aalekh than wht she herself is doing inside the home to save vasu??/ she should have to go and hve to encourage aalekh and ranvir to go inside instead of going herself.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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not sure what Sadhana will do in this situation because considering her whenshe can make a deal for her marriage and divorce to save her house/Mamiji then she can even let Aalekh go in the fire to save Mummyji ....i won't be too surprised . After all she is the one who is projected as most sacrificing person in this serial .
About Ragini,there are always 2 ways of looking at every action . If you want to find faults and blame someone you can find it from any of their actions . Nothing new here people find faults with her when she does something or even when she doesn't do something .
IMO she did nothing wrong and was just trying to stop Ranvir (who was thinking more emotionally at that time coz of situation and at these time people tend to loose control over them selves and tend to do something illogical) that doesn't mean she is too happy to let her MIL die till her husband is safe .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: smitha80

IT-since its a hypothetical Q,yes I would try my best to save my loved ones and yes anyone could have be it Ragini,Ranvir or Alekh but it wasn't meant to be cos that would do nothing to the story.But the implications(if not by words)once again says 'how Ragini is selfish and how she couldn't see anything beyond her husband'and all that,doesn't hold true to Ragini!

And people are worried abt character changes now.What happened when everyone shouted from the roof tops that this is not the basic character of Ragini?The posts itself still doubt her character and that shows how she's been ruined!

Well ... about Ragini's character being ruined... unfortunately yeh bahut pehlehi ho gaya tha and you are a witness to it (be honest ... you have accepted this more than once).
And now what benfit are CT doing to her character? ... Smitha!!! ... be fare ... her action to hold Ranvir could not have been just left out! It was supposed to be noticed! ... The CT could certainly have done better not showing this. WHAT WAS THE NEED OF THIS?... think about it! ... I think this is what the topic starter is trying to stress.

Regarding Sadhna THROWING her husband in ... ... when one lets a son save his mother, its not THROWING him in. If a mother would die burnt and a son would feel that Ihe couldnt go and change things (which could be changed - even at the cost of his life) because someone stopped him ... would he be able to forgive that person. Maybe for Ranvir it can be different ... I dunno. Because ... ones own life cannot be priority in every single case.

Just like while saving the mother land life becomes secondary ... while saving the mother (janani) it becomes secondary too...

Ofcourse ... its not meant to blame Ragini. As I said ... those are her set of values which shape her mentality ... nowhere it can be termed as a crime. BUT WHEN SADHNA WAS MENTIONED COMPARING WITH THIS ACTION ... I had to say what was rightfully supposed to be said. Sadhna is a whole different human being with a completely different set of values and identity and thinking process. She would certainly not stop Alekh ... infact she would not be thinking such things at that time ... SHE WOULD NOT BE THINKING ABOUT HER LOSSES AND BENEFITS ... she would not only let Alekh decide for himself at SUCH A CRISIS ... but jump in herself too (as she has done). Aise log hote hain ... issi liye duniya tiki hui hai.

Now coming back to Ragini ... whatever the CT are doing is not helping Ragini ... but making her more and more average ... SHE WAS ALWAYS A PROMISING character ... there were more than one way to highlight her ... and each and everyone of those ways have gone begging.

I appreciate her support to Sadhna ... but there is always something missing. If you be honest (which I hope you may try to be in this case) you will recognise that too.
Edited by Ice-Thinker - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Yes I admitted cos she's been already ruined unrealistically and illogically even after such criticism and till today I maintain a girl like her wouldn't change the way she did!And to be fair that scene didn't really make me think of how selfish she is being.In fact I didn't think anything abt that scene!And I don't think the CT's meant to either cos I am sure they won't 'experiment' with Ragini once again to that limit!
Edited by smitha80 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: smitha80

Yes I admitted!And to be fair that scene didn't really make me think of how selfish she is being.In fact I didn't think anything abt that scene!And I don't think the CT's meant to either cos I am sure they won't 'experiment' with Ragini once again to that limit!

Well I dont think its experimenting ... its just the way things are with the story. Its just the way she is ... good or bad ... take it or leave it ... this is her! ... Why must she be compared with Sadhna ... or Sadhna be brought into hypothetical situations and be proven to be like her. SADHNA IS DIFFERENT ... in every single episode and scene and situation it is repeatedly implied.
Ragini did what should could think best ...

Anyways ... as for Ranvir ... I feel he should've brushed Ragini's hand aside and jumped in! Thats my POV ...as the topic speaks about Ranvir more.

But then Sadhna is there ... not to worry. She will save Vasu. God SAVE MY SADHNA ... plastic surgery hone se ... I will throw Bidaai in the toilet ... Itne mushkil se waqt nikaal ta hoon main kiske liye ... agar wohi na rahe ... to bidaai kya aur judaai kya

Bas SADHNA ko kuch na ho ... itna karam kijo ha CT waalen... inta karam kiji
Edited by Ice-Thinker - 15 years ago

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