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Posted: 15 years ago
#41
@ sh_ka_su,, its an awesome post ,, and i totally agree with u that ragvir are soulmates whom no one can understand.. they are like us and i don't think that ragini was bad at her behavior but yes she has changed... in yesterday's epi we saw ragini's selfishness but in a way that can be accepted as she doesn't know what was the reason behind sadi's participation.. its not her fault that sadi din't told her about her mother...
in her eyes sadi is evil and she can not see the reality because she is being pressured by all the sides..first her mother made her against sadi ,then buaji and now vasu.. because of all this she is not able to listen to her heart...
all the characters of bidaai are commendable at their own places..
no offence to anyone.. 😛
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Tell me,if we are happy with Ragini and her behaviour why are we bothering with the posts requesting RS and the team to redeem Ragini?

May be the team see the posts here and concur that everything i going on fine!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Here we go again.............I would like to say something that Bani had mentioned in another post I think...........that Ragini's character needs depth................Yes, she is a good person and good human being when it comes down to the foundations. But she is easily melted into the shape one wants her to be melted. She is weaker in the sense that she can not tell the difference between her enemy and her well wisher..............Ragini at the point she is at right now is completely LOST............all she is seeing is Ranveer.....but ironically Ranveer is trying to make her see Sadhna........but Ragini doesn't want to see that..........so basically she just sees what she wants to see. People like Ragini take what they want into consideration. Not totally self-centered, but more like careless. She wants Ranveer's love, but she doesn't want Ranveer's advise. She can not make her on decisions. Even the decision to continue in the show was not her own.....she wanted to run away........it was because of Vasu that she ran back.......and it was because of Ranveer that she went forward........and that is what I would say is wrong in her character. When criticism is made on Ragini....I think this is the core of it....."why can't she think for herself!".................she gets easily influenced...more easy wrongly then rightly............she listens to what she wants to hear..........and the rest can go up in the air.......Yes you are right.....she asked her mother whats wrong....she heard that her BP is high........bas? thats it? nothing beyond that?.....Having high BP is a single major cause of many other more serious illnesses...........does she not know that??? having high BP is not that simple...its not a minor problem.....it can lead to very big problems....heart attack.....kidney failure...and in this case blood clot...............Ragini does not have the ability to join pieces together.........Ranveer and even Alekh(who was also against Sadhna) questioned in their head "why is Sadhna here...."uski koi na koi majbori hogi"..let us find out...........but Ragini?? She jumped to the conclusion that she has come her to beat me...to fight against me.........Ranveer and Alekh know Sadhna much less of a time then Ragini......she has grown up with her........but that thought never came to her..........I love both Sadhna and Ragini's characters....because they are good people.......but Ragini's character in the current track has been ruined because of misunderstands and the inability to understand......and Last but not least......YES...Ragini is a POOR SOUL..bicharri!!!.......why??....not because she is getting blamed.....but because she is misfortuned with the ability to think for her self and understand who her friends are......and because of it she lost her biggest well wisher and is causing that person a life's biggest pains directly or indirectly....and when she comes to know.....she will be crushed and ashamed.....and will suffer far greater then one can imagin with GUILT! Now I feel sorry of that....😒

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Posted: 15 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: Sh_ka_su

Dear Mods...let me request and tell one thing....I'm not bashing any character her.. but after reading some comments about Ragini and Ranveer after yesterday's epi...i really felt bad......really bad....

and as their fan i just though of bring my POV on the 2 most lovely and selfless character's..... I hope it's fine..😊



I wont comment on any other part in your topic except the "Selfless". How is Ragini a "selfless" character ??
If she was really "selfless" then she would have rushed to Sadhana when Sadi fell on the stage. Blaming Sadhana for her misfortune and beating her in the competition is one thing but showing "Zero"...nothing.. no..concern when Sadi fell was a big let down. There is something called a basic humanity. She behaved similarly with her own father when he came to see Ranveer in Rajvansh house. Her father was standing at the door like an outsider and she didn't even greet him once. Please dont tell me that even he didn't support her much during the trial. Not only as her father who is much older than her but also as a guest...he deserved to be treated with respect.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#45

Hi smitha ,I am accepting your comment about Ragini redeemtion .But yaar Ragini does not anything yaar .When she will know then we can blame her .

If RS shows that Ragini knows everything but still she is not changing then Bidaai will be bidaai for me.But i have still hope soon we will see old Ragini. Lets see next week .fingercross.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#46
Well....... i don't know why people just want to point Ragini as Negitive person.....

If Ragini is completely wrong from some people's POV here ...than let me tell one thing..... Sadhana is also Equally wrong..........we cannot, i repeat we cannot ignore the fact that Sadhana is facing the result of her own decisions always.....

1.It was Sadhana who decided to take the path of truth and also face it's consequences.... Did she even give a hint to her sister Ragini that she will be telling the truth...na....right....after this Sadhana faced a lot...so is it Ragini's mistake.....nooooo way..... It was Sadhana's sole decision... she never even included her sister in her decision......but still some good people Blame Ragini...wowwww

2. It is again Sadhana's decision to fight the battle for her Mamiji ALONE... if she tells or discusses her problem with Ranveer (Who always support's her) than her problem won't be as big as it is now......Ranveer will never allow his mom to do all the bad things.... But no.....Sadhana has to save the day herself... she decides to fight all the battle alone...Reason .. no one is with her (Why....... is Ranveer not with her??? he is right)....

And to Take Ranveer's support if she thinks of Ragini..than i'm sorry... she has never understood her own sister....will Ragini Kill Sadhana if she comes to know that Sadhana had taken help from Ranveer for her own mother's life...noooooooooooooooooooo...well Ragini is not a Vamp as most people call her hear...

Once Ragini is face to Face with the truth..she will be the one to support Sadhana more....how can we forget that in Past it was Ragini who supported and Understood Sadhana most...............

People are blaming Ragini left right and center....but did Ragini take any decisions for Sadhana....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...Sadhana has always decided the course of her life...than why can't Ragini decide on her life.......Sadhana finds her happiness in making other happy....Ragini finds happiness in Ranveer..so is it wrong...hear if Ragini is wrong than definitely sadhana is Wrong toooo...coz her own decisions have caused her pains...

Even today .... she can just give Ranveer a hint of situation and she'll definitely be out of problems with Ranveer's help...but know...she is happy hiding things and fighting alone.. than what can Ragini and Ranveer do

As far as good Daughter is concerned..Ragini has proved countless number of times that she is the best daughter......than if people hide things from her..than is she a super women to imagine all bad things happening to her Mother,Father....

well i will never think bad happening to my Parents if they keep telling me everything is fine....it's as simple as this

every coin has two sides..If Ragini is wrong than she is also right somewhere....not completely wrong as people point her.

And if Sadhana is correct.. she also is solely responsible for the pain she is going through ... and not Ranveer and definately not RAGINI .. they are no where responsible for Sadhana's sorrow ..PLZZZZ


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Posted: 15 years ago
#47
hi

ragini isnt a neg character, but she surely isnt selfless either

and sadhna diidnt do anything wrong by saying the truth in court,

even ranvir admitied that sadhna just said the truth and saying truth isnt a crime

ragini behviour isnt justified at all now, bec she is behaving immature and childish, its more like attention seeking,

alekh and ragini are in the same boat now, deep inside they know that they are wrong somewhere but they dont want to admit it

waiting to see ragini reaction when sadhna signs div papers

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sh_ka_su

Well....... i don't know why people just want to point Ragini as Negitive person.....

If Ragini is completely wrong from some people's POV here ...than let me tell one thing..... Sadhana is also Equally wrong..........we cannot, i repeat we cannot ignore the fact that Sadhana is facing the result of her own decisions always.....

1.It was Sadhana who decided to take the path of truth and also face it's consequences.... Did she even give a hint to her sister Ragini that she will be telling the truth...na....right....after this Sadhana faced a lot...so is it Ragini's mistake.....nooooo way..... It was Sadhana's sole decision... she never even included her sister in her decision......but still some good people Blame Ragini...wowwww

2. It is again Sadhana's decision to fight the battle for her Mamiji ALONE... if she tells or discusses her problem with Ranveer (Who always support's her) than her problem won't be as big as it is now......Ranveer will never allow his mom to do all the bad things.... But no.....Sadhana has to save the day herself... she decides to fight all the battle alone...Reason .. no one is with her (Why....... is Ranveer not with her??? he is right)....

And to Take Ranveer's support if she thinks of Ragini..than i'm sorry... she has never understood her own sister....will Ragini Kill Sadhana if she comes to know that Sadhana had taken help from Ranveer for her own mother's life...noooooooooooooooooooo...well Ragini is not a Vamp as most people call her hear...

Once Ragini is face to Face with the truth..she will be the one to support Sadhana more....how can we forget that in Past it was Ragini who supported and Understood Sadhana most...............

People are blaming Ragini left right and center....but did Ragini take any decisions for Sadhana....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...Sadhana has always decided the course of her life...than why can't Ragini decide on her life.......Sadhana finds her happiness in making other happy....Ragini finds happiness in Ranveer..so is it wrong...hear if Ragini is wrong than definitely sadhana is Wrong toooo...coz her own decisions have caused her pains...

Even today .... she can just give Ranveer a hint of situation and she'll definitely be out of problems with Ranveer's help...but know...she is happy hiding things and fighting alone.. than what can Ragini and Ranveer do

As far as good Daughter is concerned..Ragini has proved countless number of times that she is the best daughter......than if people hide things from her..than is she a super women to imagine all bad things happening to her Mother,Father....

well i will never think bad happening to my Parents if they keep telling me everything is fine....it's as simple as this

every coin has two sides..If Ragini is wrong than she is also right somewhere....not completely wrong as people point her.

And if Sadhana is correct.. she also is solely responsible for the pain she is going through ... and not Ranveer and definately not RAGINI .. they are no where responsible for Sadhana's sorrow ..PLZZZZ


If Sadhna is to be blamed for her misery then......Ragini should be blamed for her own misery also..............and As for Ragini coming face with the truth and then giving Sadhna more support then any one............well that is the problem.............why wait for her to know the truth.......does she really need the support of "the truth" to give support to her sister??????? that is sad......so bassicallyyy Ragini can never be counted on.......
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Now I can figure why they didn't tell Ragi or anyone about Mamiji's condition cause CTs want SaaLekh seperation at any cost whether it seems logical or other way arnd. That's why they didn't show other possibilities of acquring money.Ragi will know when everything is done i.e. divorce. And I really feel like RagVir( Ranveer is already doing his best now Ragi's turn) has really major role to play and redeem Ragi's current character back to normalacy, so they can balance it out.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Mod's note
Friends this post is about mentioning the good points of Ragvir ..so it will be better if we can stick to the topic..I know that a good discussion is possible only if Both the sides put forward their viewes in support as well as in opposition..but while doing so make sure we are talking only about our own viewpoints and not pointing fingers on what someone else is thinking...statements like "I dunno why some people bash Ragvir" or "why some people point finger on Sadhna" indicates personal attacks on fellow IF members and as per our new rules post this will not be tolerated/..so when u speak your mind..just avoid such sentences and only state your own POV..
Again I want to give freedom to everyone to state their POVs..so both the fan groups r free to put forward their POVs regarding Ragvir as long as its not hurting the sentiments of anyone..
Also if I m not wrong such topics have already been discussed earlier too..but then going with the present storyline we don't hv anything else but to discuss only about whether Ragini or Sadhna's action is justified😆..thats why I m keeping this topic open but if I see any more personal attacks then I will hv to close this post..
Bidaai Dev team

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