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Posted: 15 years ago
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Though I am a strong protester and antagonist of Ragini's actions in this track (which any neutral Bidaai viewer would do) and see no good in her action in this track (this is called analysis of characters), I am optimistic that once she starts repenting after realissing her mistakes, she will rock again....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Ragini will set herself as unique in Ranveer's eyes when she repents, Ranveer right now more than loving her, is actually standing and supporting his wife and waiting for the day for Ragini to come back to her senses.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ice-Thinker

Good topic to try and put Ragini's point.

However ...

1. Ragini is Prakash Chand and Kaushaliya Sharma's daughter. She did not even mention about Kaushaliya Sharma's ill health to her husband, MIL or even called back home to discuss this matter with a third person (Veenu) or ask to see Kaushaliya's medicine. She is a daughter, and a daughter who saw her mother couging and fainting ... Thus, its difficult to accept that Ragini did not even call back to inquire.

2. Prakash Chand has been seriously wounded since a considerable period of time. Its unmistakably visible ... We know that Ragini did come to Sharma place ...and Mamaji stays in Sharma place (not working) ... Its tough to accept that Ragini does not keep any kind of terms with her own father, and have not shown any concern of any kind over his injuries. No matter how angry one is from her/his father, this is not to be expected.

3. On stage, after the dance ... Ragini mentioned Ranvir ... but not even once she mentioned her parents....atleast the mother! Its very uncommon and increasingly unseen event that people in their special moments will forget their JanmData and Janani. Such things dont happen even for the newest and most excited of stars on stage. This surprised some viewers.

4. Veenu called Ranvir, and did not share it with him.

5. It is not Sadhna's obligation to share this information with Ragini. Ragini, being a daughter, living in the same town. Its true that Ragini is not an antaryaami ... but maybe she could show a little bit more concern....is it expecting unjustifiably too much??

6. Mamaji have been living with Kaushi, and till the last episode when Kaushi is taken to hospital, even he did not know about the clot. But atleast he was worried, he was concerned. He always interrogated Sadhna and Veenu ... he kept check on the medicines and Kaushi's diet. He always had that Care ... which is the important thing. The most important thing.

7. Its an open competition and anyone can enter.

8. Sadhna has never tried to put Ragini low. Therefore, through record, no reason really to doubt Sadhna. However, Ragini did not pressurize Sadhna to loose ... but Ragini's words about her going into an eternal LOW was heard by Sadhna ... and she did not want Ragini to be lost in an eternal pit of grief and Ragini confirmed she would go into if she looses to Sadhna.

9. A friend of mine here mentioned about how people wanted to take Ragini positively always. Who really ever was positive for Sadhna? ... So people wished for Ragini, as an elder sister. Anyways, thats not another story and can induce many comments. Another point worth noticing (which perhaps got some viewers pain) was how Ragini mentions that this victory is now important for her only so that she can be happy. She wants her confidence. She wants to defeat Sadhna! ... I know, many friends previously thought that the sole purpose was actually Ranvir ... but now it is justifiably under doubt, is it not?...


We all want Sagini Reunion ... someone wants it openly, others feel its need too. In one way or the other ... we all want a Sagini reunion. But through all these ... its only heading towards more unrest.
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Regarding Ranvir ... he is doubtlessly clear. He has no fault or deserves no accusation from anyone. He is a good man ... doubtless.
This is a constructive post, and does not contain any material intended to bash or demean any character or its fans.

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Well...thanks for liking my effort to support Ragini yar😊......

as i mentioned if Ragini is at fault Sadhana is also not correct right now......

1. When Ragini saw her mother faint in front of her........she was sooo tensed....but her mother just consoled her saying that she has BP problem (Which is very common, and not much coz of concern)and every thing is fine with her.....Kaushi herself don't know what problem she has...it was only Sadhana first and than Vinu who knew the seriousness of her health...Even Mamaji came to know about Kaushi's health during the operation .... so how can you expect Ragini to know everything that is going on in her Mother's place..when every one consoles her saying every thing is fine

2. Regarding Mamaji's accident... even Sadhana would have never known all this if she was in Rajwansh house like Ragini...coz Mamaji could have never told her anything just because he cares for his daughters...and don't want them to be sad and tensed.....she knows everything coz she is in her Mamaji's place....... so just like that Ragini also thinks that everything is fine at her father's place...coz no one ever tells that poor girl anything...so she can't guess everything that is going on right..

3. Ragini has many many times proved that she is a wonderful daughter..... but when her mother and father do not want to tell her anything coz they want her to be happy than what can Ragini do.... we have seen that even when she call's them they say that every thing is fine...so that's what Ragini thinks...

Ragini cares for every one.. not just Ranveer... if you remember during the Mahotsav..she was continuously asking Avni about her Mother and their family.....she also came in search of them...after which the competition started where she saw sadhana...

again after seeing sadhana she was not angry but she was sad..sad coz she thought her sister wanted to compete with her...which had never ever happned before...so will this not be a shocker to her... it was quit visible and evident that she was sad and not angry..sad coz she thought her sister wanted to compete with her.........she never told sadhana not to compete....am i right

when a person is kept under wraps and told that everything is fine than that person will obviously be less bothered about things...same thing is happening with Ragini..

Ranveer does not tell her anything coz he does not want her to get hurt

her parents do not tell her any thing coz they don't want her to be sad..

Even Sadhana does not tell her anything...she is just facing everything on her own... well... knowing Ragini as a character... if she comes to know the truth then she will undoubtedly support Sadhana ..and she has done it many times before.. but that can happen only when People tell her the real facts...
Here some people just want to do every thing on their own... so what can Ragini do in that case yar..

Also Ranveer has openly supported and loved her soooo much.... so is it not obvious that she will think more about him... will we not think more about the person who does everything for our happiness?????
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Posted: 15 years ago
#34
hi

well i agree ranvir is doing all what he can for sadhna and alekh and i have no complaints with him at all. he is doing his best to solve the tension and balance all the relationships

but yes he needs to soon, explain to ragini that sadhna was behind the danicng idea. parul too siad in an intv that ranvir will amke ragini understand. so i wait for that day

as far as ragini goes, all i want to say is, the creatives are hell bent on spoiling her character to the core, she had always loved sadhna, but aaj kal they never ever even show ragini missing sadhna.

i want the old ragini back, i miss the old ragini

norzar


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Posted: 15 years ago
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I seriously don't know yarrrrr...all the dance topic i go all are bashing poor Ragini....

well tell me one thing guys..Has Ragini told sadhana not to participate ...Also after seeing sadhana she was not angry but she was sad..sad coz she thought her sister wanted to compete with her...which had never ever happned before...NEVER.........so will this not be a shocker to her... it was quit visible and evident that she was sad and not angry..sad coz she thought her sister wanted to compete with her..and she sis tell that to Ranveer...........

And when Sadhana want's to hide things ... face everything on her own.... than why blame Ragini for it.....

If Sadhana had tried to tell the situation to Ragini or Ranveer and then if all this had happned than i myself would have hated Ragini .... but it is not the fact...

The fact is Ragini does not know the truth... Sadhana does not want to tell the truth...as she thinks she can face everything alone...........

Also Sadhana can take help from Ranveer or if she tell's the actual situation than even ragini for sure will support her sister..but even when Ranveer leaded his helping hand... Sadhana ignored it...so who is to be blamed her....Ranveer Ragini who can help her.or Sadhana who wants to face everything alone

Edited by Sh_ka_su - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Anu ,sweety . wow ,well said.I do not know right now why we will blame Ranvir and Ragini because they do not know anything,When truth will come then we will blame Ranvir and Ragini.Right But now they r innocent.
Do you now Anu ,yesterdat Ragvir bonding part ,i saw 8 times. Mindblowing.Now no one can say Ragvir has a lack of bonding .Right.Clearly we can see their strong bonding.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sh_ka_su

I seriously don't know yarrrrr...all the dance topic i go all are bashing poor Ragini....

well tell me one thing guys..Has Ragini told sadhana not to participate ...Also after seeing sadhana she was not angry but she was sad..sad coz she thought her sister wanted to compete with her...which had never ever happned before...NEVER.........so will this not be a shocker to her... it was quit visible and evident that she was sad and not angry..sad coz she thought her sister wanted to compete with her..and she sis tell that to Ranveer...........

And when Sadhana want's to hide things ... face everything on her own.... than why blame Ragini for it.....

If Sadhana had tried to tell the situation to Ragini or Ranveer and then if all this had happned than i myself would have hated Ragini .... but it is not the fact...

The fact is Ragini does not know the truth... Sadhana does not want to tell the truth...as she thinks she can face everything alone...........

Also Sadhana can take help from Ranveer or if she tell's the actual situation than even ragini for sure will support her sister..but even when Ranveer leaded his helping hand... Sadhana ignored it...so who is to be blamed her....Ranveer Ragini who can help her.or Sadhana who wants to face everything alone

😆u should visit all the topics posted at the time of ranveers trial......i would like to see a "poor sadhna".....but there was not any.....everyone wanted her to lie on a sacred book.....all values goes out the window when it comes to poor raginis happiness.😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: lisasandra

Anu ,sweety . wow ,well said.I do not know right now why we will blame Ranvir and Ragini because they do not know anything,When truth will come then we will blame Ranvir and Ragini.Right But now they r innocent.

Do you now Anu ,yesterdat Ragvir bonding part ,i saw 8 times. Mindblowing.Now no one can say Ragvir has a lack of bonding .Right.Clearly we can see their strong bonding.



He he... you are not the only one yar...their emotional hug.. i saw it soooo many times....he he..no counting....that was sooo cute and emotional..they were cute
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Posted: 15 years ago
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nice post..................................................i liked both positive and negative points of eveyone........very well analyzed and true...............

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Posted: 15 years ago
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There are variety of reasons why I didn't like RagVir yesterday.
Ranvir-I wanted to see him as a best pati but in yesterday's episode I felt he was just indulging her or placating her.Sorry I know it hurts but I felt that and the line he uttered was so superficial.The line was fine but it felt fake may be cos of all other serious things happening around.

Ragini-I felt blaming Sadhana for the miscarriage would be the lowest but dancing on like nothing happened when she saw her sister on the stage floor is plain horrible.She might have looked sad(acc to some POV)and angry(acc to others)but the thing is she didn't stop even to ask how she is!!!!Its not as if she is losing as Sadhana falling down already sealed her victory.Any one even a stranger would have!!!I can't digest that and I don't want to defend such sort of behaviour either.

Having said all this,I just want to say that its current Ragini I find fault with not the previous one.But I always had problems with Ranvir post-marriage and its still the same!
Edited by smitha80 - 15 years ago

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