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Posted: 15 years ago
#11

yeah! i definitely agree with u...


i know all actors want their jobs and get more and more money.... they want to buy something whatever they want....


only directors decide to plan how and what all movies and serials to do... they tries to do their best...

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Posted: 15 years ago
#12
I m a silent member here and I guess the post was really needed👏👏...
There is a very thin line between constructive criticism and bashing..as long as we continue to do constructive criticism its fine,.but the day it turns into bashing,we should know it has to stop...
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Posted: 15 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: Bini311

Sadia, kudos to you for moderating this forum, which sure is a very tough challenge.

One of the main reasons this forum can't keep up with a healthy discussion is, because the fanbase of a jodi, be it SaAalekh or RagVir can't really look at the character's objectively. If they are a Sadhana fan or Ragini fan, they will stick by her, even though anyone of them makes a wrong decision in the show. They get very protective and defensive, and start picking on the parallel lead to prove their point. Ragini fans to defend Ragini often come up with the line, "Sadhana just wants to be mahan.....", and Sadhana fans come with the line, "Ragini is just an average character and hence no expectations from her...and Bidaai is the only the story of Sadhana..". Ragini's fanbase are upset with Sadhana because Ragini is not getting any footage, and Sadhana's fanbase are rejoicing and also commenting that Sadhana should get all the footage, because apparently she is the lead.

It is just strange that both of this observation are so at fault. Anyone who has watched Bidaai from beginning knows very well, the tales of Sadhana's sacrifice and her unconditional love to her family, the humiliation Ragini has faced through her looks and how she rose up from it, and how Bidaai is about two sisters in two different situations.

Like Taral, I just want to request to all members to not look at characters subjectively but point out both the wrong and right. No one is perfect, neither Sadhana nor Ragini. I completely agree that each one of us would have their own POV and this forum should be a place to discuss. Mind you, discussion means having open minds and listening to what the other person has to say, and make better arguments to prove your point. But name calling, bashing, irrational comments are no way to go. It just proves that you don't have a valid point but want to win the argument by hook or crook.

I watched Sara and Parul's sbs video, and they were talking so lightly about the whole scenario, and laughing about it. Why can't we do the same here?? Have we become so blind in our love for the tv-actresses that we have forgotten the objectivity of the story? Why are we fighting for the rights of Ragini or Sadhana, when at the end they are just characters of a show???


Valentine's day is coming up..why don't all the RagVir and SaAalkeh fans to something together...perhaps RagVir fans can make a beautiful siggy for SaAalekh fans and vice versa....any other ideas...lets spread some love...



Firstly, Sadia, hats off to you for moderating the forum. Thank you for everything you've done and its really appreciated. 🤗

Bini Partner, you are simply amazing. Uff, this is perhaps one of my favourite posts I've ever seen in the forum and I've been posting here for more than a year and a half. 🤗

I agree with EVERY word in this sentence. 😊

I am absolutely disgusted with some of the posts I've seen here. I used to love coming here but now I dont even see the need to post so much. This place was filled with so much love before and after some time, we had two sides...Ragvir / Ragini and Salekh / Sadhna.

I see posts comparing (well, they turn into bashing) Sadi and Ragi. I see posts with "WHOS THE MAIN LEAD?!"

You guys really wanna know who it is?! Before I tell you, you guys tell me one thing, why are both Sara AND Parul usually nominated for best actress?! Why are Kinshuk and Angad both usually nominated for best actor? 🤔

The thing that REALLY irks me are posts that degrade Parul and Sara. For Gods sake, its a SHOW. Parul and Sara just portray these two characters, they're ACTORS. Man, I cant believe some of the posts here.

Its really disheartening to see people calling one of the actors a "KMH." The foursome are so damn close and you guys want to see only one half of it? Its your loss but thats just personal choice.

Its really hard to find such friendship in the industry and you guys are just mocking it, with your nicknames and bashing. I'm really disappointed with some members, as I didnt expect this irrational behaviour. 👎🏼

This is a discussion forum, everyone has the right to voice their opinions. An essential skill in life is tolerance. Having low tolerance in life will get you absoutely nowhere, guys. At the end of the day, you have to realize that its just a show at the end of the day and the foursome are actors.

To the personal bashing, I am disgusted. How on Earth can you send hateful msgs to people you dont know personally and have never interacted with, in reality? If theres one thing that really grinds my gears, its the personal attacks. Disagreeing is one thing but telling someone to die is really on the other side of the scale.

I have seen a LOT of personal attacks along with Sadi & Ragi bashing. Here you guys are, giving S & P nicknames and bashing them in and out and there they are, laughing with each other and working their bottoms off to entertain you. They dont get to choose how the show turns out, so blaming is just stupid.

To be more specific, calling Sadi / Sara "mahaan" and "KMH" is absoutely uncalled for. Commenting on Ragi / Parul's skin colour and bashing her is absolutely pathetic.

Way to set an example for other forums, guys. I didnt expect it from this place. Lets spread some love, like Bini said. Valentines Day and the Sagini reunion is coming up, so lets not cut each others throats.

@bold: AGREED ONE HUNDRED PERCENT! Uff, couldnt have said it better yaar! 👏

@purple: EXACTLY! Sara and Parul would be shocked if they came into this place. I dont think they'd wanna interact with fans who are willing to rip each others guts out. They're laughing and hugging (😳) in every interview and we're bashing and name-calling...what a difference.

@pink: I am with you all the way yaar! I would love it if Ragvir fans made some V Day sigs for Salekh fans and vice versa. What a great way to start the love season. Come on guys, dont spend time typing out hateful remarks...spend time creating lovely gestures. 😳



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Posted: 15 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: Bini311

Sadia, kudos to you for moderating this forum, which sure is a very tough challenge.

One of the main reasons this forum can't keep up with a healthy discussion is, because the fanbase of a jodi, be it SaAalekh or RagVir can't really look at the character's objectively. If they are a Sadhana fan or Ragini fan, they will stick by her, even though anyone of them makes a wrong decision in the show. They get very protective and defensive, and start picking on the parallel lead to prove their point. Ragini fans to defend Ragini often come up with the line, "Sadhana just wants to be mahan.....", and Sadhana fans come with the line, "Ragini is just an average character and hence no expectations from her...and Bidaai is the only the story of Sadhana..". Ragini's fanbase are upset with Sadhana because Ragini is not getting any footage, and Sadhana's fanbase are rejoicing and also commenting that Sadhana should get all the footage, because apparently she is the lead.

It is just strange that both of this observation are so at fault. Anyone who has watched Bidaai from beginning knows very well, the tales of Sadhana's sacrifice and her unconditional love to her family, the humiliation Ragini has faced through her looks and how she rose up from it, and how Bidaai is about two sisters in two different situations.

Like Taral, I just want to request to all members to not look at characters subjectively but point out both the wrong and right. No one is perfect, neither Sadhana nor Ragini. I completely agree that each one of us would have their own POV and this forum should be a place to discuss. Mind you, discussion means having open minds and listening to what the other person has to say, and make better arguments to prove your point. But name calling, bashing, irrational comments are no way to go. It just proves that you don't have a valid point but want to win the argument by hook or crook.

I watched Sara and Parul's sbs video, and they were talking so lightly about the whole scenario, and laughing about it. Why can't we do the same here?? Have we become so blind in our love for the tv-actresses that we have forgotten the objectivity of the story? Why are we fighting for the rights of Ragini or Sadhana, when at the end they are just characters of a show???

Valentine's day is coming up..why don't all the RagVir and SaAalkeh fans to something together...perhaps RagVir fans can make a beautiful siggy for SaAalekh fans and vice versa....any other ideas...lets spread some love...



Wowwwwwwwwwww...👏.. What a post Bini yarrrrrr...too good.....

you know i have to say that i was one among them who was very protective about Ragini......the thing that troubled me the most was she was not given enough importance and screen space as a lead...but your post has helped me change my mind.......

you know you are right .....both the sisters are correct as well as wrong in there own way... and after all they are just characters and very soon they will forget their differences and come together................

I agree to every point you said.....when we become protective about something or some one then by hook or crook we try to protect them in every way.......and forget that we might be hurting someones feeling while doing so........so it's so important to understand the other persons point of view.........................

we all like these two sister's and Brothers...... so we have to learn to love and respect like them....... some of us take them as role models ... so we have to spread love and Peace just like they do in the show......

no one is right or wrong here.........both are facing the challenge of time.... and both the sister's and brother's will emerge as winners at the end........ so let us celebrate their bond rather than fight over their character................

Thanks Sadia for this eye opener topic👏....i'm sorry if i've hurt some one😭



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Posted: 15 years ago
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Excuse me,😕 as you said this is not your form nor anyones its our form so that means everyone has the right to speak how they feel so i think you should think twice before you start writing a story about how people shouldnt be bashing or saying negative things...soo let the form be as it is and if your not happy with what u see then maybe you should leave.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Saalekh-



Thanks for your comment hun.😊

See that's the things people can't do. If all the people could reply the way you did just right now, nobody would've problem with anybody in this forum. In your post, you disagreed with me but the way you put your thoughts and explained is the way people should disagree too. But you will see numerous posts where people will disagree with you and sometimes ending up insulting you. That is where it becomes a problem. Otherwise, diagreements and critisism are welcome completely!

Healthy discussion to me looks like -- Respecting other people's point of view, Disagreements that has no rudeness in it or saracasm in it that might hurt others, explaining own's thoughts in a positive way that will not be considered "bashing". But many people just tend to fail to do that!

Yes probably something really injustice is happening to your fav character & not to other's fav character. But is that the other's fav character's fault that injustice is happening to your fav character? Then why bash that character? Why not raising your marks in report card instead of planning to how to make others fail in report card? People should give suggestions how to give justice to that character but they should not do that by putting down other character! That is what I am trying to say. What do people really get by bashing somebody?

Will be waiting for your reply😊

Couldn't agree more...specially the bold part.

Lovely post, much needed in this chaotic forum. But call me pessimistic or whatever, my experience in this forum says nothing will hardly change. Some fans are so obsessed with their fav. jodi that they are unable to see anything beyond that.

All the characters are important but their role can vary depending upon the storyline. These are just fictional characters, they dont write their own role. lol. Its the Cvs . Then why bash another character if the so called "injustice" is done to another one ?

Some fans make posts about quitting the show and also ask others to join them. OK..you are upset with the storyline for whatever reason but why make it a public announcement of leaving the show.

Then in TRP posts, they demean other jodi if the TRP ratings was bad for a particular episode. Do we know beforehand what's going to be shown in the next episode ? I dont...never get any calls or emails from the CVs. lol Why bother about TRPs if they are not even watching the show.

About Sadhana-Ragini who's lead...whos more strong ...who gets more screen-space...these are never ending debates. But its more important to stay within the limits and not bash the actors or attack any member personally.

Edited by --Anu-- - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: pking

Excuse me,😕 as you said this is not your form nor anyones its our form so that means everyone has the right to speak how they feel so i think you should think twice before you start writing a story about how people shouldnt be bashing or saying negative things...soo let the form be as it is and if your not happy with what u see then maybe you should leave.

Now what's this ? Can't we have any healthy discussion in the forum? Is bashing or spreading negativity fun ?

Some members are trying to make an effort to stop this nonsense and instead of supporting or applauding the effort, you are discouraging them. This was so not needed.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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I can understand that sometimes emotions run high ... because one person feels neglected!

But if we can ask our inner selves to maintain a standard ... then it will help everything alot.

No one can coerce or control human beings. In no era of this world's history has it happened.

Human's are known to revolt and revolutionize civilizations... its normal.

But civilizations which dont develop or fit into highted norms of manners and good behaviour ... collapse.

What I mean to say is that ... each person must realise that there is a point below no one should go. If we can maintain a standard .. we will be fine.

I know its difficult...I know that very well. But its better not to get involved in something that is beyond one ... rather then get involved and throw oneself down into a pit!

Better to apologise to oneself (and if possible to the other person) ... and start afresh!

Bottom-line ... pure intentions can help

My 2 cents... lolz
Edited by Ice-Thinker - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Sadia i really loved your post i did read all the post but wasn't respodning because i though there would be no point Thanks for the lovely Topic🤗
Now coming to these fights things jaan this never gonna stop. This happening for long time. Din't we all try our best. What was the result? Sometimes we trying to those things but we never successed. Life is full of confusion. In life people comes and go that's why we all should stay togther & happy this is life ek baar jo chal hoga past never comes back always think about future forgot the past. These foursome loves each other alot . They all knows what is the best for them and whats not. Who we are to telling this person is like this and blah critizie is ok bashing and using absuing langauge is part of some people. Even if they don't want to use it halt kuch aisa ho jate hain but its their duty before speaking anything better look it everywhere.
This is best of our life we all came here enjoyed to come but we becuse of these character things happeend like this. If because of these character we are fighting than is duniya ka kuch nahi hone wala.. You know how peope got killed & other stuff because of hate. They have hate for peple without any reason. Jaise jaise duniye mein log karte hai we follow which is very wrong we shouldn't .
Well its too late now. I am happy who am I & i belive if we arent happy with each other.. than us person se humhe dor rahana chaiya. No Offense because this is how we wil grow in life . Other than that we gona stil keep fighting forget the past , try to understand people who dsiagree wth you if they dont care forgot it & enjoy your life.
My post wasnt on foursome or Bidaai it was people love and POV & on life.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: pking

Excuse me,😕 as you said this is not your form nor anyones its our form so that means everyone has the right to speak how they feel so i think you should think twice before you start writing a story about how people shouldnt be bashing or saying negative things...soo let the form be as it is and if your not happy with what u see then maybe you should leave.



Dude, have you even visited this place before? Its a huge mess, with every other post involving bashing. I'm really not keen to see personal attacks on the actors and the members, and personally I dont feel anyone would feel comfortable here. Do check it out first and then comment on Sadia's post. 😊

Welcome to the forum, btw. 😊

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