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Posted: 9 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: munnihyderabad



Good points to discuss Janaki,

I have a slightly different perspective to it, from what I see, Meera is elder sister to Vidya , and elder sister, is synonymous and equivalent to a mother's position... For Vidya, Dharam is Father in Law, meaning father, if he wants to marry her elder sister , who is more in position of mom.. the relation is not wrong per se. If mom(elder sis) becomes mom-in-law, or if father-in-law, marries your sister and becomes jiju, who again, is more like a father.. then I personally don't think there is anything morally or legally wrong .
The age difference never really was a point of concern for me.

Love surpasses all ? I can't say much about this in real life context... but the fictional writers never make people fall in love where they cannot justify their jodi "morally, legally, ethically "




wow...wat a point,...why cudnt we think of it...? like really so many time when dheera was bashed this was the prime argument...now that i think..ur point clearly rules out any ambiguity in the sanctity of dheera ...thanks 😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I dnt understand how can Dharam and Meera be incest? My understanding of incest is when people who are blood related are together that is incest. Dharam and Meera are not blood related but are related by family. What's the problem with them being together? Its like saying 2 brothers can't marry 2 sisters coz wnt it be incest coz they related. Bt they are not related by blood so what's the big deal. I have heard that in the muslim community that there can be instances where actually cousins get married to each another. Also I have heard of instances where in some communities a man would marry his widowed brothers wife and its acceptable. I think Dheera are a little more acceptable than the other 2 examples I mentioned. but u know the 1 thing I have liked about this track is how the writers of this show have showed the similarity btw Jigar and Paridhi. The age diff between jigs and his pari is probably about the same age diff as meera and dharam. With Dharam just being a little older. But whereas we have Jigar who still looks like a young man bt Dharam looks older. 1 would have to wonder if any1 would have mentioned the age diff back when jigs and pari got together if Jigar actually looked his age.
Edited by sandiab - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I think the reason people are upset is cause everyone wanted a Gopi and Rashi storyline between Meera and Vidya . We didn't expect a father and son marry two sisters in the same household instead we were expecting two brothers marrying two sisters but the writers wanted to try something that never has ever happened in any soaps I've ever watched. Fans are looking at looks instead of relationships there saying this person is good looking he should be with this person.BUT what if Dharam wasn't a good looking character on this show? I'm pretty sure every fan base here would then be against this whole Meera and Dharam!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: lightofray

I think the reason people are upset is cause everyone wanted a Gopi and Rashi storyline between Meera and Vidya . We didn't expect a father and son marry two sisters in the same household instead we were expecting two brothers marrying two sisters but the writers wanted to try something that never has ever happened in any soaps I've ever watched. Fans are looking at looks instead of relationships there saying this person is good looking he should be with this person. BUT what if Dharam wasn't a good looking character on this show? I'm pretty sure every fan base here would then be against this whole Meera and Dharam!

of course I agree with u. I think if the actor playing Dharam was some1 else and wasn't as handsome or wasn't as good an actor as Amar than I dnt think that he or the pairing would have been acceptable. But then beauty is in the eye of the beholder I know many who would say that they dnt find Dharam hot and would notice his age and they have a problem witht he age. I think that whenever u watch a movie or a tv show the 1 thing that must be outstanding or eyecatching is either the acting which makes your looks so unimportant that u could be in rags bt the beauty of the character and actor come through. Or u visually appealing and can act abit and that carries u through. Sns strike gold with getting Amar coz he is good looking plus he can act. I remember when I saw the episode when they showed that Shravan was his son I was like W*F. How in the world does that hottie have such a big son. He never looked like his dad but rather his brother and I think that counts with his pairing with Meera. He just seems a few years older and not 20 years older. . at the end of the day we watching a tv show and acting, chemistry is what hooks some1 to a show. And Dheera have chemistry in abundance. Also I think certain times that in real life we should allow love to grow and go the way it should either it stops or ends. Once remarriage, divorces were taboo and something that should be looked down upon. Also got to say again that an actor if he is a good actor and some1 who knows their craft can make any character loveable and his pairing. I remember a few years back there was a show on SP about 4 sisters and the prettiest 1 was played by Adaa Khan aka Ms Awesome Naagin. And she was paired with a guy who wasn't good looking at all, was poor and a total mismatch for Adaa's characters. But the actor was so loveable and was so good that his looks were unimportant when u watched him. So I think more than Amar's looks its actually his acting and chemistry with Tanya which makes the pairing acceptable. And if u have seen Amar's new post leap pictures. I think I can truly say that Pre leap Dharam got nothing in the looks department when it comes to post leap Dharam.
Edited by sandiab - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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An interesting topic to discuss And the crux is age does not matter but looks do..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Whatever way I see, the relationship between Dharam and Meera doesn't look acceptable. Its not the age issue but the relationship.
If I imagine this as something happening in my family or even someone I know , the relationship would be very awkward.
Somehow it does not fit into the hindu conservative society that the families seem to hail from.
The makers should not have brought this in the first place. It was the most foolish thing to have been done by Meera / Dharam and Gaura whatever may be the reasons.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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There is nothing in saathiya which I would like to assume in real life. They are totally imperfect.

Dharam-Meera is a controversial topic. Obviously, love has one good limit, you can't keep making shit in the name of love and true love. First problem with them is their huge age gap. Meera is falling for someone who is more than double her age. Only common thing I find between them is immaturity. Meera is an immature brat who has been over pampered by her dad and mansi mom, she falls in love with everyone who spends time with her whether it is Sanskar or Dharam. Otherwise if her fling with Dharam is true love then what was with sanskar? Fake love? Then is there any guarantee what she feels for Dharama is true love? Meera doesn't see any limit when she's in love, like to be with sanskar she planned her own kidnapping and wanted to elope putting entire blame on Gopi and leaving her family worried forever. She knew that how badly her family was affected when she went missing for years, none of them were living. Still she wanted to take away life from them.

Same immaturity I find in Dharam. They say Buddhape me insaan bacha ban jata hain and same is the case with Dharam. And, one more thing I find in him is his sexual desire. Meera could be only his attraction. Physical relationship with Durga was long back. He might be misunderstanding his desire as love. Otherwise Dharam and love are like opposite of each other? Love doesn't mean something which happens only between gf-bf or husband-wife or something which happens only on bed. Love has wider meaning and big concept which Indian soaps/films/novels can never describe, according to them love means nok jhok , breaking bangle, twisting arms and fall on bed. Do they know what a father feels for his children is also love? Then why didn't dharma fall in love with Nayya when she was getting married at young age 15? She should have been in school at that time. Why didn't he fall in love with Shravan when he was forced to marry any Modi girl? Why didn't he fall in love with both kids when this baby exchange deal was made? He should have not agreed with any kadambari or kachumbari.

In his 40+ years he didn't even think about redemption when much worst things happened. So what actually happened after beautiful Meera entered? Attraction.

That's love for them.

Such mess shouldn't be assume in real life. I loath them when they are reel, let alone real.

Edited by Divine-Pearl - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Well-written post!
I think I will agree with you on your points.

Firstly, like you mentioned, age is slightly unsettling but eventually, it's not really a poijnt of contention to me. Like you said, if they find stability and coherence in their relationship, age might not be that big of a deal. There are many couples who easily have larger than a 10-year gap between them, so 20 years should not be too difficult to digest.

As you have pointed out yourself, the 2 points that makes me say no is:
1) Vidya's father-in-law
2) 2nd wife

The first issue is still iffy to me. Meera marrying Vidya's father in law would not be that problematic for me, if they had shown Meera to be of similar age to Dharam. In that case, it is natural for 2 people of a similar age group to fall in love. If Vidya and Meera's age gap was truly that great, Meera would probably be more motherly than sisterly to Vidya and therefore the relationship wouldn't be that problematic.

I think in this case, given that the respective boys and girls are in fact unrelated, I suppose the problem of incest is less? Or so is my opinion.

What I didn't like was that Dharam fell in love with Meera while his first wife is still present - and somehow noone bats an eyelid? Initially I thought that he had married Durga out of necessity, to support her for whatever reason and that he is not actually related to either Shravan or Naina. But given that she is his wife who still lives with him, Dharam outright committed adultery and none of the characters say anything about it. Not even the Modis. Their problem was with Dharam himself and not with the relationship in particular.


I do believe that their chemistry has a large part in allowing people to accept the relationship but it was nice to see someone speak out on an important point.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thank you everyone for your responses. I am glad we are having a mature discussion instead of resorting to bashing/insulting each other. I would like to comment on some of the replies.

Two sisters marrying two brothers is totally accepted in our society, because relationships do not change. Think of it this way.

Girl A marries the younger brother of a family. The elder brother's wife would be considered her elder sister, as both bahus in a family are considered sisters by marriage.

So if Girl A and Girl B who are blood sisters marry into a family with two brothers, it would not change relations at all. Because elder brother's wife is still considered a sister, whether she be your blood sister or sister by marriage.

These sisters would not become the mother-in-law, or aunt, of the other sister.

On the other hand, father-in-law is like a father. He is equated with one's own father, so marrying him is like marrying one's own father. That's why it's considered morally wrong by society at large. Father/father-in-law should be given the position and respect of a father, he should not be considered as a husband. Even if the man in question is the sister's father-in-law and not directly your own, he is still father-in-law in relationship.

In my opinion, any relationship that changes the relation between family members is wrong and unacceptable, but that's just me.

For example, in many South Indian communities, girls used to marry their maternal uncles. So then grandmother becomes mother-in-law, and one's own mother becomes their Bhabhi. Like...really?

Only recently were such relationships condemned, because in the Hindu scriptures, maternal uncle is like a father, and marrying him is equal to the sin of marrying one's father.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..


On the other hand, father-in-law is like a father.


But Dharam is Vidhyas FIL, not Meera's 😕

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