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Posted: 14 years ago
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i think SNS is not abt giving out social msgs or based on any serious topic.. its jst a timepass full on masala saas-bahu drama show.. presented in a different way... thts it!
i m not regular follower of SNS.. initially i followed it coz i thot Koki wud do something to lift Gopi's status in Ahem's eyes.. bt all tht thy r interested in is Urmila-Rashi's Kalakari and how Gopi fends it.. with accidental help from Koki inspite of her stupidities and nonsense act.. no dbt Ahem hates her... even i wud b frustrated to have such a wife and that too who is forced upon...😆.. actually this show and its kalakari reminds me of an earlier show hamari devrani.. such a stupid show.. yet it was high on TRPs..😆
well, frankly... this show interests a lot of ppl coz of Rashi and Urmila who r just like everyday folks.. the undereducated.. unsatisfied.. insecured... .jealous ppl...tht v get to c.. and most importantly it gives them ideas of Kalakari tht thy can try in their own home... 😆... jealous women are very popular.. 😆 ..thts the success behind the ad.. "uski safedi meri safedi se zyaada kaise".. 😆 😆 ...
Rashi is more close to real life character who thinks less and acts more selfish... and never thinks abt her purpose in life.. what her goal in life is beyond herself... she is all there for...
1. To have money to spend for her leisures..
2. B jealous of what Gopi has...
3. To shoo away Jigar..
Gopi is more like a slave.. following orders of everybody and not thinking for herself or even her husband a bit.. being good and nice doesnt mean one has to be docile forever.. act stupid.. and b a doormat.. she doesnt "learn".. being uneducated doesnt mean one has to be a nonlearner.. she can learn so many things from both Koki and Hetal.. yet she jst follows orders like a stupid donkey.. and so gets wat donkeys get in the end!
its pity tht indian women actually watch this crap which is disgraceful for all Indian women kind and give it high TRPs..👎🏼
Edited by violette - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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What does everone think of Ahem who verbally & physically abuses his wife?😆 He is educated & a savy businessman? if a problem cropped up in his workplace what would he do?
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Posted: 14 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: violette

i think SNS is not abt giving out social msgs or based on any serious topic.. its jst a timepass full on masala saas-bahu drama show.. presented in a different way... thts it!

i m not regular follower of SNS.. initially i followed it coz i thot Koki wud do something to lift Gopi's status in Ahem's eyes.. bt all tht thy r interested in is Urmila-Rashi's Kalakari and how Gopi fends it.. with accidental help from Koki inspite of her stupidities and nonsense act.. no dbt Ahem hates her... even i wud b frustrated to have such a wife and that too who is forced upon...😆.. actually this show and its kalakari reminds me of an earlier show hamari devrani.. such a stupid show.. yet it was high on TRPs..😆
well, frankly... this show interests a lot of ppl coz of Rashi and Urmila who r just like everyday folks.. the undereducated.. unsatisfied.. insecured... .jealous ppl...tht v get to c.. and most importantly it gives them ideas of Kalakari tht thy can try in their own home... 😆... jealous women are very popular.. 😆 ..thts the success behind the ad.. "uski safedi meri safedi se zyaada kaise".. 😆 😆 ...
Rashi is more close to real life character who thinks less and acts more selfish... and never thinks abt her purpose in life.. what her goal in life is beyond herself... she is all there for...
1. To have money to spend for her leisures..
2. B jealous of what Gopi has...
3. To shoo away Jigar..
Gopi is more like a slave.. following orders of everybody and not thinking for herself or even her husband a bit.. being good and nice doesnt mean one has to be docile forever.. act stupid.. and b a doormat.. she doesnt "learn".. being uneducated doesnt mean one has to be a nonlearner.. she can learn so many things from both Koki and Hetal.. yet she jst follows orders like a stupid donkey.. and so gets wat donkeys get in the end!
its pity tht indian women actually watch this crap which is disgraceful for all Indian women kind and give it high TRPs..👎🏼


Very strong sentiments there and they have been voiced many times over. It's an individuals prerogative.

Just wanted to bring your attention to the section in bold, most women watch it cause it provides them with a much needed break from a long day, at home/work. It doesn't mean they support all that is shown in the series.

We love it , we hate it and we the ever optimistic and eternal romantics *in secret* want to see a happy ending. We wonder how the CVs would achieve it. We have our own set of expectations from the CVs when they do it.
  • we want them to do it right
  • we refuse to be cheated
  • we do not want them to show Aham develops feelings for Gopi overnight, we wont and cant handle that, we dont want to be taken for a ride
  • we want an empowered Gopi, a romantic Aham who sweeps her off her feet
  • in short we want it ALL and we wait .. in anticipation ...

A very proud n thinking Indian Woman...
Edited by angelirebelli - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: avivakirk

What does everone think of Ahem who verbally & physically abuses his wife?😆 He is educated & a savy businessman? if a problem cropped up in his workplace what would he do?


Exactly, everyone was feeling sorry for Aham when he shouted at her for leaflets in the mango boxes, because Gopi's lack of worldly awareness didn't click in her head that this could cause embarrassment or make a joke of my husband, but I think Aham used her to absorb his frustration over the Dhaval banyan business opening, remember how angry he was at the business opening, all of that came out on Gopi...many think it's alright in society for a husband to deposit all this type of angst on a wife, but I don't think it's right at all, as the person who looks after you and is there for you when the rest of the world doesn't want to know, that person should be treated the utmost respect and love.

I think what Aham should have done is go to his mother as this responsibility is hers and questioned her about the whole thing, Kokila should have dealt with it from then onwards. Kokila would have discovered that the idea to put the leaftlets in the boxes was because of a phone conversation Rashi and Urmila were having about the business marketing etc, Kokila would have quickly ascertained the manipulation of Gopi by Rashi. By Aham going to challenge Gopi, Rashi overheard and took the heat, thereby manipulating both Aham and Gopi. Had Gopi spoken the truth in Kokila's presence it would have been a different outcome.

I can understand the OP's frustration, perhaps you should take a break from Saathiya and come back later on when the Ghost track is concluded, we all don't like the track but the CV's unfortunately are only going to understand when people tune out of the show as viewing ratings are King.
Edited by Nafisa_blossoms - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: avivakirk

What does everone think of Ahem who verbally & physically abuses his wife?😆 He is educated & a savy businessman? if a problem cropped up in his workplace what would he do?

I guess the physical abuse bit came in when Aham manhandled Gopi for the necklace bit and on a couple of other occasions when he held her arm to ask her about Kinjal's boyfriend.

Verbal abuse- i think he is super rude to very very mean to her and tries to avoid all possible contact incl communication. He gives her, her feelings and thoughts a cold shoulder when she approaches him, does that tantamount to verbal abuse??

I guess he just loses his cool when he sees her and also it could be because at some point he was kind of falling for her or was developing a soft spot her initially, when he had resigned himself to marry her and by giving up Anita. It would have been a huge blow for him and his ego when he realized was uneducated, Maybe thats the reason why he behaves like he does with her.

I dunno how he would react to situations at work, all I can imagine is how unforgiving he is/can be to even the smallest of mistakes/errors ( given the way he behaves at home).





Edited by angelirebelli - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nafisa_blossoms


Exactly, everyone was feeling sorry for Aham when he shouted at her for leaflets in the mango boxes, because Gopi's lack of worldly awareness didn't click in her head that this could cause embarrassment or make a joke of my husband, but I think Aham used her to absorb his frustration over the Dhaval banyan business opening, remember how angry he was at the business opening, all of that came out on Gopi...many think it's alright in society for a husband to deposit all this type of angst on a wife, but I don't think it's right at all, as the person who looks after you and is there for you when the rest of the world doesn't want to know, that person should be treated the utmost respect and love.

I think what Aham should have done is go to his mother as this responsibility is hers and questioned her about the whole thing, Kokila should have dealt with it from then onwards. Kokila would have discovered that the idea to put the leaftlets in the boxes was because of a phone conversation Rashi and Urmila were having about the business marketing etc, Kokila would have quickly ascertained the manipulation of Gopi by Rashi. By Aham going to challenge Gopi, Rashi overheard and took the heat, thereby manipulating both Aham and Gopi. Had Gopi spoken the truth in Kokila's presence it would have been a different outcome.

I can understand the OP's frustration, perhaps you should take a break from Saathiya and come back later on when the Ghost track is concluded, we all don't like the track but the CV's unfortunately are only going to understand when people tune out of the show as viewing ratings are King.

Nafi,
There's a saying in my language a knife pierces where there is flesh! Gopi is Ahem's punching bag. He never raised his voice against Rashi when she ran a huge telephone bil or when she was wasting precious time at the Swiss airport. He shows his anger on the less fortunate ones like Dhawal, Gopi & even doesn't talk civilly to Jigar.
he made his bed when he decided to let go off Anita & marry Gopi. He needs to fix her illiteracy. He surely can afford a teacher & a makeover person to change Gopi.
A house is built on love, respect ,kindness & goodness. She has the virtues & she's not lazy like Rashi. The flaws Gopi has can be overlooked. As u said he should have allowed Koki to handle the matter and the outcome would have been different.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: angelirebelli

I guess the physical abuse bit came in when Aham manhandled Gopi for the necklace bit and on a couple of other occasions when he held her arm to ask her about Kinjal's boyfriend.

Verbal abuse- i think he is super rude to very very mean to her and tries to avoid all possible contact incl communication. He gives her, her feelings and thoughts a cold shoulder when she approaches him, does that tantamount to verbal abuse??

I guess he just loses his cool when he sees her and also it could be because at some point he was kind of falling for her or was developing a soft spot her initially, when he had resigned himself to marry her and by giving up Anita. It would have been a huge blow for him and his ego when he realized was uneducated, Maybe thats the reason why he behaves like he does with her.

I dunno how he would react to situations at work, all I can imagine is how unforgiving he is/can be to even the smallest of mistakes/errors ( given the way he behaves at home).


He definately needs lessons in behavioural management. verbal abuse is telling a person that he / she is not good. His lines are u want bad things to happen in y family, nothing u can do is right & go away. Which modern day husband would allow his wife to sleep on the ground? For heaven's sake have a sofa cum bed in the room!
Education can be given by giving her private tutoring. At least instead of getting her do all the household work she can be given a break to learn. These are small things which can be fixed. If a wife is not supported & loved she would always feel out of place in her inlaws place. She would then bend overbackwards to fall flat at everyone's feet.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: avivakirk


I agree getting her started with home schooling can solve so many problems on SNS. Aham will definitely get a chance to re-evaluate their relationship and so will Gopi. Also, she will end up being smarter and be prepared to face Rashi & Co.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: angelirebelli


I agree Swasthi, Kokila wants Gopi to make her presence felt but at the risk him insinuating him further. Aham on the other hand despises her for hovering around him and being forced upon him.

I wonder just how such relationships turnout in the end, in real life scenarios.

An interesting point is that we talk about Ahem's ego having the better of him.
Consider this for a moment, should Ahem have a super-ego (Freud's concept of id, ego and super-ego).
The super-ego suppresses the urges of the id and makes the ego behave morally rather than realistically. Super-ego is driven by the parental voice telling the child what to do and enabling them to conform and comply.
In Ahem's case he accepts Gopi for her presence in MM but refuses to tolerate her for what she is. He is directed by his mother. Koki is making him compliant and conforming him at every step.
If this is the case, we have very little to hope for Ahem in developing any relationship with Gopi. He needs to breakaway from his mother altogether as nani had said.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: swasthi

An interesting point is that we talk about Ahem's ego having the better of him.
Consider this for a moment, should Ahem have a super-ego (Freud's concept of id, ego and super-ego).
The super-ego suppresses the urges of the id and makes the ego behave morally rather than realistically. Super-ego is driven by the parental voice telling the child what to do and enabling them to conform and comply.
In Ahem's case he accepts Gopi for her presence in MM but refuses to tolerate her for what she is. He is directed by his mother. Koki is making him compliant and conforming him at every step.
If this is the case, we have very little to hope for Ahem in developing any relationship with Gopi. He needs to breakaway from his mother altogether as nani had said.


Wonderful assessment Swasthi !!! Nani was one smart cookie.

Aham is definitely being watched and guided by his mother. She reprimands him when he is wrong and guides him through. She acts as his conscience. Given the scenario, Aham with a superego is unrelenting, rigid, and more often than not judgmental. With his strings being pulled by his mother and with the subconscious burden of his mother working on his relationship he has very little time to assess the situation / relationship independently.

Underneath all the string pulling is Aham's denial/rejection of the relationship. He is doing everything possible to appease his mother but deep down rejects the idea.

For Goham relationship to have any chance of survival it needs to be left on its own, with no strings attached. Gopi hero worships Aham. Aham, on the other hand, has to be given an opportunity to assess and understand things by himself, without any help or even guidance.

Kokila has to let Aham go to provide GoHam with an actual shot towards their non-existent relationship.




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