Plagiarism- is it such a crime? - Page 4

Originally posted by: kabhi_21

I agree with everything except this........ Kanoon palne ke liye banaya jata hain.... and everyone has to respect the law....... Agar aap kehte ho ke Piracy ka kanoon kisi aur ka headeche hain lekin hame saste me sab milta hain..... to aisa to nahi hain

Kanoon palna aapki jimmedari hain😊

kanoon bananankisi aur ka aur "palna" hamara....pirated khareedna buri baat hai...we assume that preetam and co are on the right side of the law...on the up and up

Originally posted by: myths

agreed again😃

Originally posted by: myths

If music is indeed your passion, and not just a profession, you would be interested if someone pointed out to you that a certain song had been copied from elsewhere. Taking anything at its face value, be it music, books or news broadcasts is not really advisable. The keyword is discerning not suspicious.

Myths are meant to be busted, aren't they? 😃

Every artiste works on some inspiration or the other. One cannot sit in a room, completely vacant, with a blank mind, and compose a literary work or a musical composition. Even the greatest of artistes have drawn inspiration from some prior form of work or music - the key word being DRAW INSPIRATION.

Sit on the seashore to draw inspiration from the sound of the waves to make a musical tune or a picture or a theme for a new book. Or use the hoof beats to make it a tune. This cannot be classified as plagirism, but in fact, is just being inspired by different sounds (of nature, in this case) to create your own work, your idea.

Classic example of a copyright issue which is out of a textbook

A poem was written by a poet in 1820. The poet expired in 1888. The poem was copied in verbatim by another author in a chapter of his book in the year 1970. Is this a copyright infringement?

Answer is NO. There is no infringement of the copyright in such a case because the term of the copyright for a literary work subsists for a period of sixty years after the death of the author.

However, the ethics come into play if the subsequent author were to give credit to the original author of the poem, after all, it is the creative mind of another and not his own.

Today, if someone copies verbatim the creative work of another, without giving due credit to the original author, and thereby PASSING OFF the work as his own creative creation, he is definitely guilty of plagiarism.

Originally posted by: punjini

Myths are meant to be busted, aren't they? 😃

Thats really cute😆

But you made the point yourself- "If someone points it out ".

Can you spend hours researching each song? I mean whats the point?

Now if someone tells me the song Kambakt Ishq is copied from an Ethiopian number, i will say " oh, is it ? thats a lovely song" and thats it. Am not trying to argue here, but wondering what you would do different?

Originally posted by: soulsoup

Ankita - when SD take Bhatiali tune and internalize it - that's inspiration!

Then all the raga based songs are copy too.

Well said.

The key word is where one draws the line between drawing inspiration and copying it verbatim.

Originally posted by: soulsoup

Can we compare that with note by note, beat by beat copy of Pritam and Anu Malik?

To make a very trivial comment here, sometimes I am glad that they copy good works, else we will be subject to hearing music, which may be original and nice to THEIR ears, but disastrous to OURS 😕

Originally posted by: s.priya

To make a very trivial comment here, sometimes I am glad that they copy good works, else we will be subject to hearing music, which may be original and nice to THEIR ears, but disastrous to OURS 😕

Thats really funny!!!!!1😃

Originally posted by: myths

Well Punjini ji ,

All that you say is very true, yes theoritically it is, but music is only our passion not profession. Going to such depths as to search for origins, influences , for every song we hear, atleast for me ,is a near impossibility.

I listen to a good song , take it for its face value ,am not constantly suspicious of it being plagiarised, enjoy it and forget it.

If i discover by chance that the original composer is Bulgarian or Ethiopian, then hurrah for him. What can i do? I like the song and thats it.

If you were a composer in Bulgaria and I were a composer in India, you arrive in India one day and discover that a song originally written by you, has been copied verbatim by me, its a chart topper and I am popular because of that one work, how would you feel?

Would you not want to get into that autorickshaw which is playing that song and tell the driver that you had created this song originally and that the entire sequence of the song, the music, the feel and the heart of the song is yours? U may think that the autorickshaw driver is not interested in it and will carry on. But when you see this at every nook and corner of India, wont you somewhere feel that someone, one individual or a set of individuals have violated your creation, have misused your creativity and PASSED IT OFF as their own, thereby robbing you of its ownership?

No doubt, we cannot go through life, being suspicious of every work we come across to check if it is an original or a copy, but sometimes, we just enjoy listening to something or even reading something which we know is copied. But when we come to know that, how do we view the second author. Will you want to go back and listen to another tune created by him or read another book written by him, knowing that it is possible that this one too is copied from the work of another great.

Originally posted by: myths

I listen to a good song , take it for its face value ,am not constantly suspicious of it being plagiarised, enjoy it and forget it.

If i discover by chance that the original composer is Bulgarian or Ethiopian, then hurrah for him. What can i do? I like the song and thats it.

Yes, you have a good point. The audience doesn't care much.

I guess I usually end up thinking from the viewpoint of the artist.