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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: ankita31

lata mangeshkar and hridayanath mangeshkar were part of the final episodes of "meri awaz suno"-lata mangeshkar herself was the producer of the program😆 pamela jain got second place.i dont remember the name of the girl- this is your famous Sunidhi Chauhan😆- she was only a kid then -whom Lataji said she'll make sure she makes her place in Bollywood & got her the first break in Yash Chopra film as per contract.who came first.she sang the beautiful song from 'harjaee'..."tere liye palkon ki jhalar bunoon".so what is so wrong with talent shows now!!

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Posted: 19 years ago
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As far originality in singing is concerned, its not necessary a whole new song has to be composed for every participant. Remember the earlier Sa Re Ga Ma format where in some rounds, participants had to sing well known songs in diff pitch & beat?? That's enough to test talent in earlier rounds ....
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: T.

Yeah, I remember reading that back in the day she had monopolized the industry by saying that she would not sing for any movie unless all the female parts of the songs were given to her. New talent hardly had a chance to come up in that time.

But, forget about new SRGMP, I dont even remember her coming on the old SRGM as a judge. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I dont really see her promoting new talent that much.

i dont know how many of u remember the promise ID made sharib to give her a duet with lataji... i had a feeling that it wouldn't happen and reading this it seems even less likely 😕

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Posted: 19 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: Dawn05

I really can't digest it completly the reason is that Lata , when started her career was not of strong social back ground in any way(other than her talent) and she was very well established in the industry at a young age. I don't understand how can a young girl\lady can control the male dominant field of music industry in a country like INDIA during those days (50s-60s).

I never read any thing bad about her character and I don't think she had links from BHAI LOG either so why would any one listen to her or wanted only her as a singer. If there were so many options other than Lata tau kis ko pari thee kay Lata kay nakhray uthata ... isn't it . 😉


I agree that she herself was a novice when she entered the industry with no base or support or godfather herself. The fact that she found a foothold for herself and consequently for Asha Bhosle speaks volumes of her talent. You cannot take that away from her. Coming into a North dominated/ Bong dominated Hindi film industry, from a socially not so well off background and then establishing herself was a stupendous feat, which is very commendable.

I did not comment on that factor at all.

I was only speaking of the era that came thereafter, where, possibly the nasha of power got to her and she challenged SDB that no music director would be successful without her. That smacks of blind arrogance.

SDB and OPN and others proved that they dont need LM for making brilliant music.

If she was praising Asha for her ability to sing songs for Helen, I am certain she could have had a better choice of words.

Having said all this, I would agree that journos do sometimes twist words to suit their convenience. But in the case of Lataji, I have observed that she does go ping pong on her words too often.


Originally posted by: Dawn05


The problem is that young generation (in general) though have alot of talent some times go for a short cut instead of going through rigrous training and having a strong base. One music teacher told me that on many occassions students ask him to teach only songs instead of going into raga details. Any true and honest teacher or ture or honest artist would oppose this idea. To practice one song from great artist is not wrong untill it is used to enhance ones already strong based talent. it shouldn't be the BASE itself. And if some one is base less then probably he \she win the contest would get momentary appreciation from masses but then when they face the reality they may not be able to take one or to steps let alone moving along the pace of music industry. One has to have originality.

If you read her sentence in this perspective you will not find it negative instead it is very positive , honest and fair.


👏 very well put. I agree that to suceed in life, you need a strong base, which comes only with practice and with dedicated effort.

A Maestro like her, who is a public figure, and who knows that every sound byte of hers is like nectar to her fans and to young aspiring artistes surely can use a better choice of words if she did not intend to put them down.

Maybe your manner of interpretation is right, but I feel, in that case, she could have certainly have had more dignity in her words.


Originally posted by: Dawn05


😳 Thanks Priya ji,

I am an average person with average intellect but people who run such shows have such a high IQs that they can move public according to their wish so if they want to change some thing for good they surely can. There is nothing impossible the only thing required is good intention.



Dont be too sure of that Dawnji. Gajendra Singh has moved on from making one of the best talent contests that I have seen to making the most trashiest contest🤢. His IQ is definitely suspect now.

Our Average Iqs are far far superior to their above average or High iqs
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dawn05

. She is an old lady now and her age is apparent in her other gestures too. I always think of my grand mother when I see or hear any old lady ab chahay wo celeberity hi kion na ho per hay to wo bhee eik old lady

Priya ji , I was thinking that at a younger age compare to Lata , on many occasions I say something which I shouldn't but at the same time I thank God that there is no one to report each movement of mine or each word come out of my mouth 😊.



Agree Dawnji. No doubt she is old and yes we need to take that into consideration as well.

But dont you agree that when they chose to take a profession which automatically puts them in public light, they should always conduct themselves with some dignity, in deference to theri stature in society.

I thank god too, that I do no thave someone to report every moment of mine. But can share this much with you.

This is a public forum and I am only a Moderator here. But even in that capacity, there are times when you keep that fact in mind when you make a post, because sometimes, things said by a Moderator can be also read ina different manner, than that if said by a member.

If we can take that much precaution in a forum, can she not excercise that extra bit of discretion in life, which is bigger and mightier than this forum;
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: bollywood_queen

i dont know how many of u remember the promise ID made sharib to give her a duet with lataji... i had a feeling that it wouldn't happen and reading this it seems even less likely 😕

Thats true. There is no news about this.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Agreed Lataji is a very accomplished singer but you can now hear her age in her voice. I find her latest songs (Veer Zaara, etc) intolerable to listen to. There is something "heavily sachcharine" about her aged voice that I don't like. It is time for Lataji to retire from the music scene gracefully. Making blanket statements about contestants from reality music shows like Indian Idol and Saregamapa shows a small minded competitiveness.

While not all contestants are play back material (hello! it is a competition!), the shows HAVE produced some talented singers. And while it is difficult to compose new songs for every contestant, both Indian Idol 2 and Saregamapa Challenge 2005 finals included the contestants singing a new composition specially composed for them. I must say most of the finalists were able to perform them very well. Performing original compositions does not necessarily show-case a singer's talents! It's success is usually coupled with how good the composition is. Even Lataji has sung some not so hot original compositions! A singer's talent can best be show-cased by chosing a technically difficult song to sing and singing it well, and from the heart. Karunya for example often did that.

It is true that because of public voting, these shows sometimes produce undeserving winners, but they won't last long in the industry. The ones with talent (who don't win) are still spotted, and often given opportunities.

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