lata doesnt like new srgmp - Page 2

Originally posted by: qwertyasdfgh

why not? If reality shows are throwing a new face twice a year on glossy CD cover with colored hair and leather outfit etc...they can definitely get new lyrics and music......

She is right... After all she is the great Lata Manageshkar..... 😊

Yeah, but even then those songs are not always chart toppers. A good singer may end up with a really bad song and get cut based on that. At least with well known songs, one gets to see the real potential of the contestant - they can try to make the song their own instead of going by the rote system.

I agree if the Final 2 are given completely new songs to present. Then its fair. But, for every contestant to do so is impractical.

I dont understand if she is referring to the final 2 or to the entire system of the talent hunt. 😕

Originally posted by: rongmon

Lataji is great, the evergreen melody queen. however, Lataji is talking so much about the budding singers, why she cannot raise her voice on the detoriated quality of bollywood music ? It looks like she has always problems with the new singers coming to the Industry.

Yeah, I remember reading that back in the day she had monopolized the industry by saying that she would not sing for any movie unless all the female parts of the songs were given to her. New talent hardly had a chance to come up in that time.

But, forget about new SRGMP, I dont even remember her coming on the old SRGM as a judge. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I dont really see her promoting new talent that much.

Originally posted by: T.

Yeah, but even then those songs are not always chart toppers. A good singer may end up with a really bad song and get cut based on that. At least with well known songs, one gets to see the real potential of the contestant - they can try to make the song their own instead of going by the rote system.

I agree if the Final 2 are given completely new songs to present. Then its fair. But, for every contestant to do so is impractical.

I dont understand if she is referring to the final 2 or to the entire system of the talent hunt. 😕

But remember in C2005, Debojit and Vinit were given two new songs to sing !!

Priya di, liked it. I think its human being nature that it takes advantage of being popular and start commenting on anything without thinking. Have anyone saw 'Saaj' movie? it's said that it was real story about her & Asha ji. If that's the truth then I don't know what to say.

I did see a real show with her, usha mangeshkar etc... She is good in singing no doubt about that but as a person I don't know. Usha Mageshkar is famous for 'Jai Santoshi Ma' songs but she didn't sing any song from that movie, I think she was not allowed to, as... But who knows what's the truth.

Originally posted by: s.priya

Well, she is Lata Mangeshkar.

So what if one day she says she does not want flyovers outside her balcony, anticipating public sympathy and then when finds that the public of Mumbai did not support her thoughts, immediately said she had never made the said statement 😕

Does this mean that if tomorrow, someone compliments her songs and praises her highly then it would be acceptable to have such talent shows, with contestants singing her songs.

Imagine the round one of a talent contest, where the contestant is from a remote part of a State. Is the contestant, who has good genuine singing talent, supposed to contact lyricts, musicians etc. so as to showcase his talent to the best extent possible.

Or should he abandon himself to the whims of the production house and leave the choice of new songs to them, which might give them an oppurtunity to manipulate those as well.

Or Can he chose the best songs, which suit his talent and which will show case his talent in the most befitting manner, before the audience, so as to get a fair chance of sucess.

Originally posted by: sigrid

But remember in C2005, Debojit and Vinit were given two new songs to sing !!

yup, i remember. and i think its right to have new songs for the final 2 (ref. to bolded line above) 😊

Originally posted by: manjujain

Priya di, liked it. I think its human being nature that it takes advantage of being popular and start commenting on anything without thinking. Have anyone saw 'Saaj' movie? it's said that it was real story about her & Asha ji. If that's the truth then I don't know what to say.

I did see a real show with her, usha mangeshkar etc... She is good in singing no doubt about that but as a person I don't know. Usha Mageshkar is famous for 'Jai Santoshi Ma' songs but she didn't sing any song from that movie, I think she was not allowed to, as... But who knows what's the truth.

yes ive seen saaj shabana azmi and aruna rani starrer yes my mom did tell me its based on their true story but that's always been an allegation against them that they didnt allow many female playback singers to enter the industry

Originally posted by: qwertyasdfgh

One example of good songs going long way was Sonu nigams Deewana. He was budding singer then but could get a good advantage of new lyrics and songs.... so its not all that far fetched..

Sonu Nigam's Deewana was launched during his SRGMP days. He had already received critical acclaim for his singing and style on the show and therefore the comparison cannot stand here.

Originally posted by: qwertyasdfgh

And priya comment about the singers having to seek lyricists and musicians... All Lataji has said is they should be heard with new lyrics and songs... doesnt say how you do it...

Thats exactly the point I was trying to make Mr. Qwerty.

She is Lata Mangeshkar and she is not bothered about the budding talent which is waiting in the wings to take their bow. She does not want them to sing her songs. She wants them to sing new songs.

I was merely trying to think from the point of view of a budding artiste. Where will he go. Will he or she have to succumb to the unscruplous ways of this world.

But then, she is Lata Mangeshkar. How does all this matter to her.

I dont necessarily agree with her. In her singing days it was her singing every song and if she didnt sing, she made sure she threw tantrums so that other upcoming singers are snubbed. It is much more competitive now for singers with somany coming out. I do agree that public voting is not good, but talent shows are agood way to showcase someone's talents/ Thats how SUnidhi, Shreya, Kunal have come. I dont like this holier than thou attitude of her.I think she has forgotten the days when she was imitating Shamshad Begum in the beginning of her career just o get a foothold in the industry. She is not at all for encouraging new talent and given a choice she will probably want to sing for the rest of her life.

Originally posted by: s.priya

Sonu Nigam's Deewana was launched during his SRGMP days. He had already received critical acclaim for his singing and style on the show and therefore the comparison cannot stand here.

Exactly. Deewaana was also launched after a long struggle by Sonu. It is not possible for a new singer with talent, but no $ or Godfather to get a lyricist and composer to create a new piece for him/her. Or even if he/she is a composer + singer + songwriter, who will take the risk of producing an album for him/her?

Its not really practical, IMHO.

Yup Tanaz. and if I am not mistaken, his HMV series of Phir Rafi had also released by then and music companies recognised his talent, at that time, as a Rafi style of singer.