why i think debo doesnt deserve.... - Page 4

Originally posted by: T.

I respect your opinion, and I would not have responded, but the bolded part compelled me to respond.

When you know the rules of the game, you play by its rules, no matter how strange they may be.

If you lose the game, it just means that you didn't play well enough. The "better" singers did not stick around because people DID NOT vote for them.

There is NO POINT in complaining or saying that Debo did not deserve to win. Don't feel sorry for the people who voted for DEBO. Feel sorry for the people who simply did not bother to vote for their favourite or even care enough to keep them in the competition.

This gameis OVER. Complaining about the outcome is synonymous to crying over spilt milk.

Well said! I wonder why these people cannot stop whining?????

When was Debo in the danger zone? There was once when he got yellow
and he said that the VSNL lines were not working.

As for who is a better singer Vinit or Debo -- Fame 2005 answered that.

As for who will have a better career, we shall see.

Originally posted by: mdroy

When was Debo in the danger zone? There was once when he got yellow
and he said that the VSNL lines were not working.

As for who is a better singer Vinit or Debo -- Fame 2005 answered that.

As for who will have a better career, we shall see.

let it go mdroyji. some people r so frustrated that they started to have hallucinations.

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Originally posted by: adwarakanath

Good points. Thanks for that point of view. I most certainly agree he is a lesser singer compared to Hema, Nihira, Sharib etc. But I certainly don't think he's a lesser singer compared to Vinit for these reasons -

1) Vinit is not classically trained. It makes a HUGE difference because Vinit many a times sings 'Apshruti'.
2) Vinit shouts higher notes, he's flat at lower notes. He has his alaaps etc changed to make them easier (Parda hai parda) or leaves them out altogether (Nain Lad Jaihein).
3) Vinit's voice is still immature and edgy. It isn't a well rounded smooth voice like Debo's, which comes with intense riyaaz
4) Vinit is a sonu mimic. He's sung mainly Sonu's or Rafi's songs, and when he has attempted a different one, he's done miserably. Point in case - Aake Seedhi lagi, Tu Mile Dil Khile (the second one, he forgot the lyrics and went very besura in the antara)

5) Pt. Jasraj, the doyen of indian music, thinks Debojit is better. Debojit won against Vinit in Fame2005, when Pt. Jasraj, Biddu and Chitra were the judges. You wouldn't be questioning Pt. Jasraj's judgement, would you?
6) Vinit never attempted any super-tough songs like Debo's Qawwali. Debo did make a couple of mistakes in the Qawwali, but after that gave a SMASHING performance. His alaaps are majestic, his taans were spot on. That requires a trained flexible gala. And here we have Vinit getting his alaaps altered to suit him.

And yes, Debo did start of shakily in the beginning. But he improved tremendously towards the end, and when he sung Ek Chatur Naar which is pant-wetting tough, we knew he was in contention. He had improved superbly.
Debo has always sung songs with a classical edge - Mere Naina Sawan Bhadon (again super tough...3 octaves range required), Aye Zindagi Gale Lagale, Tum Jo Mil Gaye Ho (Madan Mohan - Rafi song, enough said!), Ek Chatur Naar, Yeh Ishq Ishq Hai, Tadap Tadap....

There is versatility...he's sung songs of 18 different singers. Vinit has done 5.

I am sorry if I offened you with these harsh truths. 😉

👏 It is always interesting to read your opinions.

Originally posted by: adwarakanath

Good points. Thanks for that point of view. I most certainly agree he is a lesser singer compared to Hema, Nihira, Sharib etc. But I certainly don't think he's a lesser singer compared to Vinit for these reasons -

1) Vinit is not classically trained. It makes a HUGE difference because Vinit many a times sings 'Apshruti'.
2) Vinit shouts higher notes, he's flat at lower notes. He has his alaaps etc changed to make them easier (Parda hai parda) or leaves them out altogether (Nain Lad Jaihein).
3) Vinit's voice is still immature and edgy. It isn't a well rounded smooth voice like Debo's, which comes with intense riyaaz
4) Vinit is a sonu mimic. He's sung mainly Sonu's or Rafi's songs, and when he has attempted a different one, he's done miserably. Point in case - Aake Seedhi lagi, Tu Mile Dil Khile (the second one, he forgot the lyrics and went very besura in the antara)

5) Pt. Jasraj, the doyen of indian music, thinks Debojit is better. Debojit won against Vinit in Fame2005, when Pt. Jasraj, Biddu and Chitra were the judges. You wouldn't be questioning Pt. Jasraj's judgement, would you?
6) Vinit never attempted any super-tough songs like Debo's Qawwali. Debo did make a couple of mistakes in the Qawwali, but after that gave a SMASHING performance. His alaaps are majestic, his taans were spot on. That requires a trained flexible gala. And here we have Vinit getting his alaaps altered to suit him.

And yes, Debo did start of shakily in the beginning. But he improved tremendously towards the end, and when he sung Ek Chatur Naar which is pant-wetting tough, we knew he was in contention. He had improved superbly.
Debo has always sung songs with a classical edge - Mere Naina Sawan Bhadon (again super tough...3 octaves range required), Aye Zindagi Gale Lagale, Tum Jo Mil Gaye Ho (Madan Mohan - Rafi song, enough said!), Ek Chatur Naar, Yeh Ishq Ishq Hai, Tadap Tadap....

There is versatility...he's sung songs of 18 different singers. Vinit has done 5.

I am sorry if I offened you with these harsh truths. 😉

Kudos .... great analysis !!! Your knowledge on music is very commendable. 🤓

ok some of u believe that i am a vnint fan.. i am not.. i am not saying that vinit should have won.. my point was out of all the final 10, 12, 8.. or whatever.. i have seen many who were wayy batter than debo and most of u debo fans agree with it.. so if u really want to be fair.. then u have to also agree that if they were better then they were more deserving..
ok debo won.. ok i seem like im crying over spilt milk.. but u know what..all who said that to me.. are missing the point ..
i dont care abt vinit.. i think hemachandra was better than vinit..even others in the final rounds were better than vinit.. trust me i would have BELIEVED that vinit didnt deserve cuz there were many who were better than him.. so stop telling me that i am vinit fan or that i am not being fair..but i guess making u ppl understand what i meant is like "bains ke aage been bajana".. 😆
so i will just stop.. and leave u people with ur dilusions...hey what do i loose if it makes u feel good inside......

Originally posted by: MeanTruthTeller

ok some of u believe that i am a vnint fan.. i am not.. i am not saying that vinit should have won.. my point was out of all the final 10, 12, 8.. or whatever.. i have seen many who were wayy batter than debo and most of u debo fans agree with it.. so if u really want to be fair.. then u have to also agree that if they were better then they were more deserving..
ok debo won.. ok i seem like im crying over spilt milk.. but u know what..all who said that to me.. are missing the point ..
i dont care abt vinit.. i think hemachandra was better than vinit..even others in the final rounds were better than vinit.. trust me i would have BELIEVED that vinit didnt deserve cuz there were many who were better than him.. so stop telling me that i am vinit fan or that i am not being fair..but i guess making u ppl understand what i meant is like "bains ke aage been bajana".. 😆
so i will just stop.. and leave u people with ur dilusions...hey what do i loose if it makes u feel good inside......

You r ryt !!! 😉

Most of these Vinit fans are sore losers. You can not just run down someone's well deserved success like this. If these people are real wellwisher of Vinit then they should pray for his success. He too needs it just like all the top 5 finalists.

One can always move to top by pushing others down... but is that right? Please give due respect to Debojit's success.

Hey, Mean guy, you may not be a vinit fan but your post does not sound so. Please try to put your thoughts in comments as close as possible. If you were true, you should have started a topic long time back saying "Debo & Vinit dont deserve to be in the final". Where were you then? Please do not take shelter of names of other singers and try to prove that only you have some brain left amongst all the forum members.

Even Id did not believe in Debo that's why he forced to do do debo lip singing and vinit performed live the new sone so now who is better vini of that dumbo Debo. If you guys dont know but this is the truth that the new song composed by ID and sung by debo that was lip singing and composed by HR and performed by vinit was live now you have to think that who is the better singer and Why ID has to do this. Simple si baat hai woh debo ki aib chupana chahte the. No w wait and watch how much chances ID gives to dumbo debo

Originally posted by: sangeetluv

I agree with people here that if the title had been "Neither Vinit nor Debo deserve to win", more people would have constructively responded. There should not have been Vinit's name in the main post at all.

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