Restructuring Saregamapa for 2006 - Page 11

Punjini,
Now you would have received many suggestions. request you to collate all the responses and then give your opinion.
May be the draft version of the suggestions to be sent to Zee.

Thx

Originally posted by: vineethn

Punjini,
Now you would have received many suggestions. request you to collate all the responses and then give your opinion.
May be the draft version of the suggestions to be sent to Zee.

Thx

Yes, I am planning to collate everything. Actually, I have already emailed the link to this site to the "Feedback" id given in www.saregama.sifymax.com asking them to read our opinions. Now I am wondering whether I should email the collated suggestions to the same id or ZEE TV headquarters. Do they read their emails? Wish I was in Mumbai and I could make a trip to the Zee TV office. I believe it is in Worli.

Originally posted by: punjini

Yes, I am planning to collate everything. Actually, I have already emailed the link to this site to the "Feedback" id given in www.saregama.sifymax.com asking them to read our opinions. Now I am wondering whether I should email the collated suggestions to the same id or ZEE TV headquarters. Do they read their emails? Wish I was in Mumbai and I could make a trip to the Zee TV office. I believe it is in Worli.

Great. I think you can send the email to both the email ids. Any idea about their contact numbers. Even I am not in Mumbai and hence can't meet them up.

Can try talking to them over phone. I wonder if they have any kind of feedback cell.

Originally posted by: Shantibai

ekdaam barobaar belwalkar guru
sundar ritya lihita tumhi 😉

Dhanyavaad!! I try my best😳

Another thing would be that in the final rounds (agnipariksha), audience polls shouldn't be allowed. Instead a panel of outside judges, mainly musical maestros should come and decide on the winner. This reduces the biasness of the show and ensures that pure talents aren't kicked out.

As for mentors I'd like Aadesh Shrivastav because I find him to be a good motivator. Even if the students of his gharana didn't sing well, he motivated them and said they can improve on their performance. ;)

There should be a competition only for girls.I dont understand the mentality of people.Why cant they choose a girl for once.It shows that we still have man oriented society.So the compitition should be only judjed by the judjes.

Hi All This is the mail I wrote to SRGMP organisers after getting suggestions from this forum.


Hello

I am one of the members of www.india-forums.com, a website which has been discussing Saregamapa Challenge 2005 for many months.
Saregamapa Challenge 2005 had a completely new format from the earlier years and was watched by far more people than ever before. It was exciting, inspiring, emotional, yet often unjust and irritating.

We would like to give ideas to the Saregamapa organisers to devise a new format whereby real talent gets rewarded and biases are reduced to a minimum. The winners of the challenge in 2006 should find the going even more tough and exacting.

Here are some of the ideas offered by members of the forum. For reading the complete discussion, please visit http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=200825.

1)A panel consisting of Shaan, Gajendra Singh and others could do the initial screening of candidates based on the cassette recordings sent by candidates. Let's say 50 are selected.

2) 5 gharanas should be set up and 10 candidates put in each gharana. Some choices for the mentors would be Jatin-Lalit, Shankar Mahadevan, A.R. Rahman, Ismail Darbar and Shiv-Hari, Aadesh Srivastav.

3) Out of the 50, we can filter the contestants and bring down the number to 10.

4) A panel of distinguished judges from the musical world should be appointed for judging. These judges should be given a good briefing about what judging is all about. A format should be made whereby a weighted ranking is given to various aspects of singing such as sur, taal, breathing, variation from original song, dance movements etc. The marks given by each judge should be shown on screen. Every aspect of singing must be given a weightage. Something like this:

Originality of voice: 5%
Ability to sing song close to original song:5%
Ability to sing in sur: 60%
Ability to sing in accordance with taal: 20%
Performance: 5%
Complexity of song: 5%

5) The formula suggested for marking is:

Judges - 60% weightage
Mentor's voting(except for candidates own mentor) - 20% weightage
Orchestra people voting - 10% weightage
Public Voting (needs rectification, like one sms per mobile no., one vote per landline no., NO VOTING THRU INTERNET.) - 10% weightage
6) Since the orchestra accompanying the singers will have a good idea of the singers who are singing off-key, their votes are important.

7) Over several weeks of singing, the candidates can be eliminated until one girl and one boy are left standing. So there should be two 1st prize winners.

8) In the current SRGMP format, too much importance was given to "performance". It is felt that moving or dancing at the same time as singing takes away some of the energy that the singers would have put into their singing. Nihira and Swananda, who are rated by many as the best female singers in the show, were not good dancers but rather made their voice do all the acrobatics.

9) Audio visuals have been a subject of some debate. Most people don't want to see something contrived like a contestant getting up from sleep, his/her dreams and things like that. These people are not good actors so everyone can make out they are faking it when they try to act. However, AVs where there is no acting such as shots of the contestants at home,their village/hometown, interviews of relatives etc, interviews of the public with regard to their favourite contestant etc are appreciated.

10) Some of the rounds suggested by members are:
round without any accompanying music where each contestant's voice will be heard without instrument-support.
round where the pitch of the song is changed by the instrumentalists and the singer has to sing in accordance with the pitch
classical round where only classical songs from films are sung (in fact a whole episode can be devoted to classical songs from films)
folk songs round
duet round
11) A lot of arbitrary things happened during SRGMP 2005, which should not have been allowed at all. For example, when one of the judges asked the mentors themselves to decide who should be the winner. That's how Aishwarya got ousted. The judge (was it Alka Yagnik) got away by passing on her responsiblity to mentors. Another time when one of the judges were unable to decide and said "hum in subko kal phir se sunenge". The judges must decide in whatever time they are allotted.

12) In the new SRGMP format, it must be clearly laid out what to do if there is a tie or if the judges are unable to decide who is the best.


13) If a contestant is not well, no retakes should be allowed. It's not fair. Everyone is going to have some problem or the other due to tension. It was not fair when Himani, who fainted in the middle of the show was given a second chance.

14) The surnames of contestants should not be revealed. I mean if we just know the contestants as Paresh or Vinit, we will never know which state they are from and partisan voting might be avoided to some extent.

15) Contestants should not be allowed to ask for votes from their respective states. In a country where regionalism sometimes borders on insanity, this is a dangerous practise.

16) However, voting analysis in the form of graphs showing zonal voting helps to know the mood of the national audience. This time they could include the pattern of voting of NRIs and Central India apart from North, South, East and West India.

I hope the ideas given will be useful in devising a new format for SRGMP Challenge 2006.

Sincerely

😡GHATIYA IDEA.No SAREGAMAPA without HIMESH RESHAMMIYA< AADESH SRIVASTAV AND ISMAIL DARBAR.Got it???????? Just stay out of your idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 👎🏼

for the future agar phir kabhi aise koi talent show tv mein ho..i think they should rethink the rules....

about their voting system, about the contestants etc...

do u have any ideas how they could improve this show??

or what went wrong in this challenge?

in my opinion there should be an age limit between 18 n 25 years...

the contestants should all sing the same song

so we r able to compare them with each other

u cant compare a song frm taal with a song frm dus right??

as far as voting is concerned....there is no perfect system possible

agar assam se many votes aa rahe hai

to yeh baat bhi nahi bhulna chaiye...ki assam is the one state who will watch more tv than may be south india does....

or jaha par ziada log tv dekhte hai...unki votes ki value ziada high hai..am i right?

beside this...hey guys i wanted to mention something...

dont blame debo or vinit or somebody else for being manipulative or begging for votes...cause thats quite normal for a human being

we all do the same...jaane mein ya anjaane mein...

we are all like debu n vinit!!!!!

of course we cant like all the same person

but thats not a reason to insult the party of the opposite contestant OK?

Originally posted by: rajeev_iloveu

😡GHATIYA IDEA.No SAREGAMAPA without HIMESH RESHAMMIYA< AADESH SRIVASTAV AND ISMAIL DARBAR.Got it???????? Just stay out of your idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 👎🏼

GHATIYA INSAAN HEE EES IDEA KO GHATIYA KHE SAKTE HAIN........

GROW UP....DON'T ACT. LIKE HR IDIOT..........