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Posted: 16 years ago
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I think more than soft-ware for composers, its now that CDs of foreign music is easily available to rip-off !😉
Basically the Indian music industry is 90% film music, mostly bollywood or regional cinema. The Non-film music is fast dieing out here with maybe one album a year which is doing decent sales. Otherwise the remix albums.
The fault also lies with the Non-film albums done by various companies, which are recording albums with just about anybody. I mean common Sherlyn CHopra / Sophie Choudhary / Vikas Bhalla / Shekhar Suman etc are being projected as singers ! Its only thanks to some gizmos that they can ever think of recording.
If you have the money (slef produce) or if you are famous then its easy to bring out an album. I have now heard that after Sonu Nigam who made his father to cut an album, it will be Priyanka Chopra's dad who will bring in an album follwed by HR's dad.
I hope that the big music companies like T-series, HMV, Tips etc realise that they need better quality of non-film music. Giving remixes is not the answer.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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i dontthink sonu did justice to main agar kahoon.. aneek sang it MUCH better.. sonu overdid it.. i didn't like the oversweet and overdelicate way in which he sang it..
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: ReemAnshu

I think more than soft-ware for composers, its now that CDs of foreign music is easily available to rip-off !😉
Basically the Indian music industry is 90% film music, mostly bollywood or regional cinema. The Non-film music is fast dieing out here with maybe one album a year which is doing decent sales. Otherwise the remix albums.
The fault also lies with the Non-film albums done by various companies, which are recording albums with just about anybody. I mean common Sherlyn CHopra / Sophie Choudhary / Vikas Bhalla / Shekhar Suman etc are being projected as singers ! Its only thanks to some gizmos that they can ever think of recording.
If you have the money (slef produce) or if you are famous then its easy to bring out an album. I have now heard that after Sonu Nigam who made his father to cut an album, it will be Priyanka Chopra's dad who will bring in an album follwed by HR's dad.
I hope that the big music companies like T-series, HMV, Tips etc realise that they need better quality of non-film music. Giving remixes is not the answer.

If a bunch of serious and well known good musician got together and produced an Album, whether it is movie related or not, it should do well so long as there is enough promotion.
India does have a bunch of Great Talents and listeners as well.
But to do this there are more risks involved as compared to latching on a song to a movie. They kill two birds with one stone.
But after a while there will be lesser and lesser dependence.
Aneek's new album is doing well I presume and so a few SRGMP singers will be coming up with their own Albums.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: oldblackjoe

i dontthink sonu did justice to main agar kahoon.. aneek sang it MUCH better.. sonu overdid it.. i didn't like the oversweet and overdelicate way in which he sang it..

I have no comments on this. Both are great singers and it is a personal preference.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: oldblackjoe

i dontthink sonu did justice to main agar kahoon.. aneek sang it MUCH better.. sonu overdid it.. i didn't like the oversweet and overdelicate way in which he sang it..

I agree with you on this. I titally loved Aneek's version and enjoy it more than the original.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: ReemAnshu

I agree with you on this. I titally loved Aneek's version and enjoy it more than the original.

Yes you said the same way back in 2007, when I mentioned the same. Several Sonu Fans got angry then and this time I did not want to offend them as I have the utmost respect for Sonuji.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Article on new singing sensation Reena Bhardwaj. Shot to fame because of ARR?

new singing sensation
The story of Reena Bhardwaj and her debut song 'Yeh rishta...'

A surprise phone call from AR Rahman has catapulted this LSE graduate Reena Bhardwaj into the world of playback singing. Rahman gave her the beautiful number 'Yeh Rishta...' to sing and she didn't disappoint him as her song from Meenaxi has gone up right to the top of most charts. In an exclusive interview Reena Bhardwaj talks to the History Talking.com about her extraordinary musical journey.

To listen (English)

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Song by Rheena Bhardwaj "Yeh Rista"
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwlHywX4xrs[/YOUTUBE]
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Song Ye Rista is from Meenaxi. Actor Kunal Kapoor n Tabu etc
Meenaxi Movie Review
Meenaxi - Spanning the realm of creativity
Indo-Asian News Serv [Friday, April 23, 2004]

Painter M.F. Husain's second directorial venture "Meenaxi: Tale of 3 Cities" dwells on the ageless debate over the intricate relationship between the creator and his creation, the artiste and his art, and the painter and his brush.

Flitting across three time zones, the film takes the viewer through its basic debate on art, life and illusion, transporting Husain's vision into the realm of poetry.

Somewhere in the middle of this seamless tale Tabu, playing an elusive creature of fugitive desires in Jaisalmer, steals into Kunal's haveli on tiptoe with the express intention of making her feelings manifest.

But Kunal (played by a refreshingly natural, non-iron-pumping Kunnal Kapoor) is shy and apprehensive.

"You here at this time of the night?" he looks uneasily over his shoulder. And Meenaxi's face falls.

The scene where the woman, at the risk of her own reputation, steals into the arms of passion, seems like M.F. Husain's tribute to the immortal "Devdas".

As far as Meenaxi is concerned it's the end of love. But for the author Nawab, played by Raghuvir Yadav, it's the cue for a new beginning.

He can now take his heroine into another dimension, another continent, another chance for Tabu to showcase her enchanting enigma.

Between the brush and the brush-stroke of "Meenaxi: A Tale Of 3 Cities", there lies a universe of feelings and emotions, many inexpressible, almost as elusive as Tabu's eyes which wander beyond the flaming frames of the screen to gaze at the very essence of love and existence.

The first of the three Tabus who colonise M.F. Husain's tale of three cities is a perfume seller in Hyderabad.

As Santosh Sivan dodges autorickshaws and commuters in the cluttered Hyderabad to zero in on Meenaxi, the camera becomes the conscience of Nawab, the author searching for the perfect heroine for his next novel.

Perfection being the grandest illusion of art and life, Nawab finds Meenaxi, the wily, pushy, slightly crude but deliciously seductive ittar seller.

It's in the way that Husain looks for imperfection in art that "Meenaxi" shines way beyond his earlier somewhat scrambled stab at direction in "Gaja Gamini".

Tabu may not be as graceful and nimble-footed as Madhuri Dixit. But she carries the weight of the film's basic debate on art, life and illusion with a fertile facility.

The film's three segments are not mutually exclusive in the way of, say Raj Kapoor's "Mera Naam Joker". Characters overlap, collide and coalesce to the point where borders between feeling and manifestation, thought and expression seem to become joined in the dance of life.

Deliberately, M.F. Husain makes his characters talk in an unusually loud voice.

In one sequence he personally appears at a Irani restaurant and winces the minute the first Tabu, the ittar-seller, opens her mouth to nag the writer Nawab.

Her raging passion to alchemise her ordinary life into art through Nawab's pen is also every artiste's craving for immortality through his art.

It's that craving which comes across in Tabu's remarkable presence. To call it a performance would be belittling what Husain and she have set out to achieve in the frames.

As Tabu travels from one time zone to another she transports us to another world where 'maya' (illusion) seduces and caresses reality. True, her Czech accent in the last overture is strained.

But then, this is a film of heightened realism where the characters are

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: ReemAnshu

This question is having a definite answer in today's time, a few years ago (say 20) it would have been difficult to answer.

But today the answer is simple - its the COMPOSER who is more important and has to be bang on with his tunes.
As you know, that now adays, the director hires the MD as per his budget and then natrates the script to him and tells him where he wants the song. The MD has to be good enough to understand the situation and then make the tune which is appropriate. Then comes in the lyrics which again have to be written on the tune and with the mood of the song in mind.
As far as singing goes, today's MDs have many choices but more than choices they have the machines ! which can correct everything, they can make a singer sound so different.
If the singer is good, it surely helps the song and lifts it further. But I have seen many besura singers (in live) and they have recorded songs which make them sound great.
Even some of the great singers of todays time are technically not so good but are doing a decent job. It is very easy these days to record songs, I have been at several recordings - they sing the mukhda once, then the antra and its then patched up. The songs are sung in multiple parts, sometimes an MD even records single lines !
Gone are the days when singers would prepare for the songs in advance, come and sing with feel the whole song in one take and if it was a duet, then sing the song together.
Best example I can give is Farhan Akhtar in Rock-on, he was roped in by Shankar (on request of Gattu - the director) to sing the songs so that they can maintain that Rock feel and raw voice texture. The reality is that Farhan cant sing ! I heard him at a Malad Mall during the promotion and man was he croaking or what !!! He is barely passable but when he records 1 line or 2 lines at a time with all the machines at work, it looks like the songs were his and only his !

oh so so so agree!!!😃

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