why South India has poor representation in SRGM?

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Indradhanush

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Posted: 17 years ago

#21

@ aneek: Born in Kerala (speaking in chaste malayalam in family) KK was lucky to have been in Delhi. Read this:

Krishan Kumar Menon dearly called as Kay Kay was born on 23rd of August at Trichur , Kerala.He did his primary education in Mt Saint Mary , Delhi.Starting out early at school,he went on to win accolades at every annual event. Like any other kid of his generation, growing up meant being surrounded with sound influences of the times. Pink Floyd, Extreme, Sting, Billy Joel, Guns 'N' Roses, Deep Purple and Jethro Tull were some of his earliest influencers. At different stages, KK took to singing with different bands He was the lead vocalist for three different college bands. He sang everything from "Everything I Do, I Do It For You ..."to Mr Big's "Just Take My Heart". And the rest is history. KK's charisma worked with the music enthusiasts.

After graduating from Kirori Mal College Delhi University, KK dabbled with a few "normal" 9 to 5 jobs. He was quick to realise that this was not his "scene." It had to be singing or nothing. His soul was music. Soon, KK began participating in various forums where he could showcase his singing abilities. Be it Quiz Time of 1992 or the Ravi Bajaj fashion show.After a while, it dawned on him that to have a lucrative singing career one had to be in the thick of things--where the action is. That is how KK landed up to the place where the industry really moves--the city of Mumbai. The Mecca of advertising, Mumbai, opened up new vistas for KK. The ad fraternity did not lose time in recognising talent.

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Indradhanush

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Posted: 17 years ago

#22

Actually the big success of A R Rehman in Bollywood has made me think that lyrics and diction are secondary to sur and composition or else ARR won't have been such a big hit. If you look at his biography many of his Hindi songs have been done by prominent SI singers.

Also Bollywood singers like Shreya (who won Filmfare 2006 in TN for munbe wa), Udit, Alka are big hit in Tamil music and accepted there, does it mean they have fantastic regional language command..?

I remember in 90s I came across a phenomea called Khalid an Algerian singer whose album Didi was a mega success in those days when private albume nearly didn't sell except for flukes like hawa hawa. This album was in Arabic and its success forced me to think that music has no language and it is difficult to limit this to boundaries. I always thought that being an Ilayaraja fan in North India is abnormal but soon I came across people who went to see Tamil movies in Bombay only to listen to Ilayaraja's music and background score.

I agree Hemachandra had an accent people but he was able to deliver major entertainment in C2005 because of his sur and classical training. Ritisha as pointed out is from Karnatka and I don't find any problem in her singing, I m sure if the auditions are done properly in SI they will find many new hemachandras but only if the process is not farce.

I think if Hindi and diction is a major problem then finger can be pointed at Bengali singers like Debojeet (C2005 winner), DD and others as well, I was born in Kolkata and I know how good our Hindi is. And on similar line what is the take on contestants like Asma, Jenice et al, I am 100% sure there is a deserving Hemu in SI for each of them.

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Indradhanush

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Posted: 17 years ago

#23

Most Southindian singers have a tremor in their voice along with the accent. I hope you guys get what I am trying to say. Listen to dil hai chhota sa, chhoti si asha and you'll know what I mean. The song is hummable and is beautiful composition but I feel the southindian touch is too prominent. Listen to Yesudas and you'll know for sure what I'm trying to say here.

actually I like the imperfect tone and feel of Yesuda because of this reason.

No doubt most southindian singers are classically trained and are pretty good singers. Still, kanon ko kuchh missing sa lagta hai when you listen to them. But accents etc are fixable if one has the zeal.

Exceptions are every where. We do have Kavita Krishnamurthy whose singing does not have any accent but I find her voice too shrilly and sharp at times.

Yes gauri this has been discussed earlier this is true.

Why South is poorly represented - because it's not good for TRPs and sms voting as that region does not even support their own when it comes to a hindi program. Bad investment for a hindi channel.

fully agree

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titu

@aneek paul

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Posted: 17 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: Indradhanush
@ aneek: Born in Kerala (speaking in chaste malayalam in family) KK was lucky to have been in Delhi. Read this:

Krishan Kumar Menon dearly called as Kay Kay was born on 23rd of August at Trichur , Kerala.He did his primary education in Mt Saint Mary , Delhi.Starting out early at school,he went on to win accolades at every annual event. Like any other kid of his generation, growing up meant being surrounded with sound influences of the times. Pink Floyd, Extreme, Sting, Billy Joel, Guns 'N' Roses, Deep Purple and Jethro Tull were some of his earliest influencers. At different stages, KK took to singing with different bands He was the lead vocalist for three different college bands. He sang everything from 'Everything I Do, I Do It For You ...'to Mr Big's 'Just Take My Heart'. And the rest is history. KK's charisma worked with the music enthusiasts.

After graduating from Kirori Mal College Delhi University, KK dabbled with a few "normal" 9 to 5 jobs. He was quick to realise that this was not his "scene." It had to be singing or nothing. His soul was music. Soon, KK began participating in various forums where he could showcase his singing abilities. Be it Quiz Time of 1992 or the Ravi Bajaj fashion show.After a while, it dawned on him that to have a lucrative singing career one had to be in the thick of things--where the action is. That is how KK landed up to the place where the industry really moves--the city of Mumbai. The Mecca of advertising, Mumbai, opened up new vistas for KK. The ad fraternity did not lose time in recognising talent.

KK and myself is influenced by same legends. Regarding diction , does keralite has also that prblem. I could hear nothng wrong with KK diction.

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mintyblue

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Posted: 17 years ago

#25

South indian singers are very atlneted and have a huge reource/talent pool

Just like Marathis and bengalis, their priority is not just filmi an dloud music but classical and other kinds of music also. That's why the sweetness is preserved, and I agree with our moderaotr that their regional shows are successful and of better quality than the pan-indian shows

However i do think they shopuld partcipate in national shows more as these have a wider coverage and bigger audience and ultimatley leas to better commerical prospects. South indians believe in substance over external frill. theya re brilliant an everything they do. i know, since one of my aunts married a Tamilian and I have had access to the rich culture there

I think whoeevr from South india has come to Bollywood has made it big- A.R. Rehman, kavita Krishnamurthy and KK. Now Hemachandra, karunya, irfan can replicate the success. That talnetd girl RITISHA PADMANBH is a name to wathc out for in SVOI-2. in short, south indians are known for quality rather than quanity- which is a better thing anyday:)

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sudesh kumar

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Posted: 17 years ago

#26

i think the major reason is south indians have accent issues and more evident.. which is one reason,,,

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sudesh kumar

@qwertyesque

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Posted: 17 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: mintyblue

I think whoeevr from South india has come to Bollywood has made it big- A.R. Rehman, kavita Krishnamurthy and KK. Now Hemachandra, karunya, irfan can replicate the success. That talnetd girl RITISHA PADMANBH is a name to wathc out for in SVOI-2. in short, south indians are known for quality rather than quanity- which is a better thing anyday:)

Of course South indians make it big.. but mostly it has to be south indians who are from Delhi or mumbai...like shankar mahadevan, kavita krishnamurthy, kay kay....etc.. everyone who come to mumbai cease to be where they came from in the literal sense... 😊

Accent is all to a good voice.. u cant have good voice with an accent it doent work.. like it happened with SPB and Hariharan...etc...

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sudesh kumar

@qwertyesque

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Posted: 17 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: Indradhanush
@ aneek: Born in Kerala (speaking in chaste malayalam in family) KK was lucky to have been in Delhi. Read this:

Krishan Kumar Menon dearly called as Kay Kay was born on 23rd of August at Trichur , Kerala.He did his primary education in Mt Saint Mary , Delhi.Starting out early at school,he went on to win accolades at every annual event. Like any other kid of his generation, growing up meant being surrounded with sound influences of the times. Pink Floyd, Extreme, Sting, Billy Joel, Guns 'N' Roses, Deep Purple and Jethro Tull were some of his earliest influencers. At different stages, KK took to singing with different bands He was the lead vocalist for three different college bands. He sang everything from 'Everything I Do, I Do It For You ...'to Mr Big's 'Just Take My Heart'. And the rest is history. KK's charisma worked with the music enthusiasts.

After graduating from Kirori Mal College Delhi University, KK dabbled with a few "normal" 9 to 5 jobs. He was quick to realise that this was not his "scene." It had to be singing or nothing. His soul was music. Soon, KK began participating in various forums where he could showcase his singing abilities. Be it Quiz Time of 1992 or the Ravi Bajaj fashion show.After a while, it dawned on him that to have a lucrative singing career one had to be in the thick of things--where the action is. That is how KK landed up to the place where the industry really moves--the city of Mumbai. The Mecca of advertising, Mumbai, opened up new vistas for KK. The ad fraternity did not lose time in recognising talent.

Is Kay kay from Sarkar the same guy? Is he an actor too?

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200467

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Posted: 17 years ago

#29

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

Is Kay kay from Sarkar the same guy? Is he an actor too?

No Qwerty. Kay Kay the actor is K K Menon. Kay Kay the singer is Krishna Kumar Kunath.

The singer Kay Kay grew up in Delhi. Pretty much did all his schooling and college from Delhi. Hence, no southie accent in singing. Some of his songs that I absolutely adore are:

Chhod Aaye Hum (Maachis)

Tadap Tadap ( Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam)

Tu Aashiqui Hai (Jhankaar Beats)

Tu Hi Meri Shab Hai ( Gangster)

Alvida Alvida (Life in a Metro)

Aankhon mein teri Ajab Si (Om Shanti Om)

Kya Mujhe Pyaar Hai (Woh Lamhe)

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sudesh kumar

@qwertyesque

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Posted: 17 years ago

#30

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

No Qwerty. Kay Kay the actor is K K Menon. Kay Kay the singer is Krishna Kumar Kunath.

The singer Kay Kay grew up in Delhi. Pretty much did all his schooling and college from Delhi. Hence, no southie accent in singing. Some of his songs that I absolutely adore are:

Chhod Aaye Hum (Maachis)

Tadap Tadap ( Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam)

Tu Aashiqui Hai (Jhankaar Beats)

Tu Hi Meri Shab Hai ( Gangster)

Alvida Alvida (Life in a Metro)

Aankhon mein teri Ajab Si (Om Shanti Om)

Kya Mujhe Pyaar Hai (Woh Lamhe)

Thanks Gauri.. He is the best. My favorite ones are Phirta rahoon (killer), Zara si (Janna), Kuda jaane (bah), OSO, Soniye (aksar) including all the above. He rocks and is most likely to send Sonu and Shaan out of business...

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