The hands you take and the hands you leave Part 63-Updated page 149 - Page 8

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Posted: 8 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Athene a very good analysis. Yes Satrupa had two choices and I would say she made an informed choice, giving credit to the fact that Dheeru came to them first while he had the option of selling it to Oberoi. Satrupa put Pujan in a mess. But that is the problem too. As each attempt for bloodless coup get thwarted, the game will move to messier planes as Pujan will take more risks, play more dirty and when it combines with Sudha's tactics it will go ugly.

Yaa that dance showed Anami's power. Yes she is a princess who will become a queen for sure. One chance has to come for Narotham. It has to come as only that can change the story

@visa see you are also right. Adhiraj Arjuna, Anami Krishna is also there. But what cannot be refuted is that A&A is a unit now. A unit which no one is seeing. A unit whose dynamics no one is understanding except Poonam. But Poonam too treats it as simply cupid play but it is much deeper than that. Janta hawaldar and benaras ki khudi has started speaking a language which in course of time only they will understand. And that language will turn all the tables. The roles can reverse as situation demands. He can be Arjuna she can be Krishna, she can be Arjuna, he can be Krishna. What I like most about the pair is that it is soothing for your eyes to watch them and you feel their connect with a smile. There is no falling tripping romance. There are no eye locks either. But each of their scenes bring an emotional satisfaction to you.

@vidya yes winds of change is beginning to blow. But all effort will be made to stop this winds, which will ensure the wind from a breeze becomes a storm and blows away everything in its path.


AA are really easy on the eyes. i agree no cliched romance . for now they are building up the friendship. Arjun - Krishna were anyway one. so roles changing between anami- adhiraj is going to happen with anami being the adviser sometimes and adhiraj being the adviser sometimes
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@naq justice always come with a heavy price. But does that mean you wont fight for it. A war doesnt happen because of Dusshashana or shakuni, it happens because of people like Bhishma, Drona, Karna who stood in defense of dussashana.
In RKC also war is not going to happen because of Pujan. It is because of inability of Vikram to see the winds of change. It is because of sticking to reeti, neeti, parampara.

We call our freedom struggle the most peaceful, fought with Ahimsa. But can anyone describe the himsa that happened on both sides due to Partition on the day our country got independence. A wound that bleeds till today. Why the so called Ahimsa couldnt prevent that himsa of innocents including women and children. A huge price was paid in blood for our freedom. Does that mean we should not have fought for freedom.

In any change destruction will happen. If people can let go of their egos then the blood bath will be less. The more change is resisted, the more it moves from one generation to next gravity of blood bath increases. Both love and war destroys. War destroys by force, love destroys by choice. Any case destruction will happen.
Edited by shruthiravi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Draupadi paid a heavy price all her life. Her father had invoked a son to destroy Drona but the destruction would not be possible just by him. She came as a bonus. It is because of the injustice meted out to her to which men of great standing Maharathis were passive spectators that each paid a price.
In the recent version of MB there is a conversation between Bheeshma and Draupadi. It is always believed Bheeshma paid a huge price to preserve the vanish he belonged to. He says the sacrifices Draupadi has made the hardships and humiliation she has endured is far greater. It is she who unifies the Pandavas. Their mothers were different yet they stood united bound by her. No MB without the mention of her.
Gandari lost her sons and cursed Narayana. Draupadi lost her sons but bore her loss.
She is central to the fight of good over evil. The defeat and humiliation a Kshatriya endures was normal. For a Princess married to 5 princes to suffer insult of the magnitude she did elevated her to a great height. She is fury she is Shakthi she is honour...insult to her must be avenged at any cost.
She came to destroy Drona and in the process forged ties and had children predestined to represent ideals we need to work on for salvation.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Exactly Vidya. Panchali never blamed Krishna for the loss of her sons. She bore it as the effect of her karma as well as the war of justice demanded, while Gandhari put the entire blame of what happened to her sons on Krishna cursing him.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Guys hopefully from today I can post the analysis by 10 pm. RKC is at 8 pm and the other show I have been watching beyhadh is at 8:30 pm. So will need atleast about an hr to write both the analysis. 😃
Also I have edited the title to make it more meaningful for the thread. Hope you like it.
Edited by shruthiravi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@naq justice always come with a heavy price. But does that mean you wont fight for it. A war doesnt happen because of Dusshashana or shakuni, it happens because of people like Bhishma, Drona, Karna who stood in defense of dussashana.

In RKC also war is not going to happen because of Pujan. It is because of inability of Vikram to see the winds of change. It is because of sticking to reeti, neeti, parampara.

We call our freedom struggle the most peaceful, fought with Ahimsa. But can anyone describe the himsa that happened on both sides due to Partition on the day our country got independence. A wound that bleeds till today. Why the so called Ahimsa couldnt prevent that himsa of innocents including women and children. A huge price was paid in blood for our freedom. Does that mean we should not have fought for freedom.

In any change destruction will happen. If people can let go of their egos then the blood bath will be less. The more change is resisted, the more it moves from one generation to next gravity of blood bath increases. Both love and war destroys. War destroys by force, love destroys by choice. Any case destruction will happen.


yes that is why i said there is no proper justice for a wrong doing. to get justice you have to loose more than what you already have lost.. There is co lateral damage. Panchali was one of themeveryone only looses for one wrong act done by anyone. kurushetra wouldnt have happened if the kauravs hadnt wronged panchali. One wrong doing destroyed everything, even she lost everything in the end.
And regarding independence live were lost even before the partition happened. the oppressor looses and even the oppressed loses.

Love actually dosent destroy if there was actual love and peace, wars and fights wouldnt happen. We dont know how to love and keep peace and be righteous that is the main issue. Every one is greedy and selfish & non emphatic that is why wars and killings happen.
Edited by naq5 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#77
9/10/2017

Does the hand you take depend on your choice or your circumstance. Though we say the choice is because of circumstance the choice is still ours, not that of circumstance. Circumstance is the beautiful name we give when we take the hand of fear leaving the hand of our conscience. It is the name we give when we take the hand of selfishness and call it selflessness. Yes what Satrupa did was based on her circumstance and the social reality of having a male child. She can tell any number of times guruji told to remove a child. But she didnt do it verbatium, she did it based on what she wants. Guruji words can never hid Satrupa ambition of power, to have a male child. When the male child was no longer there, she went and bought her daughter that too intimidating her foster parents and continue to intimidate her with utter disregard to the people who had taken care of her for 17 years.
Satrupa does sun doesnt need to prove it is sun. But what she forgets is that where sunlight reaches is dependant on earth, its movement. If you look at sun alone and if you dont understand one day you will have no time to understand what brought you down. It is matter of time before earth's gravity brings you down.

Well but what is told to Satrupa is applicable to Anami also. Yes circumstance cannot be blamed for your choice. But before you point fingers at someone for something they did, you have to live that circumstance or a similar circumstance with different choice. Between circumstance and conscience you have to choose conscience. Let whatever be the price that needs to pay for it. Only then you can point fingers.

Yes Anami can protect Narotham because she only knows what happened to Narotham in LM, she does not understand the revenge of Sudha. Sudha has been wronged. That is very clear. What Gayatri told Anami is a lie. Sudha had not trapped Baldev. Baldev have surely loved her or had infatuation for her, mostly married her and also had a child with her. Family needed only Satrupa as the bahu. Gayatri accepts Anami not because she is just Baldev's daughter, but she is the daughter of Baldev and Satrupa. She belongs to the class Gayatri believes in. Narotham and Anami are not same though they are blood of LM. Gayatri's hand come out only for Vatsalya and Anami not for Narotham. Sudha had trusted Gayatri and Gayatri did treachery to her. Today Anami trusts Sudha and I am sure Sudha is planning a similar fate for the daughter of LM.

Pujan wants to kill Anami, Baldev wants to kill Dheeru. Baldev has seen Tanya not Adhiraj. Guns and roses. The hand that came with gun for Dheeru will it be able to hold roses for the same person. Let us see. War and love, both give pain. War people say because of circumstance and love happens with choice. But the world prefer to take gun in the hand than rose. Because rose becomes your choice, gun there is always circumstance to blame.

Baldev has done something for Dheeru. That too back stabbing. Somewhere Dheeru has done some mistake trusting Baldev and only he got punished. Dheeru had taken Baldev's hand in the past. He paid the price. And yes Dheeru tells it right. RS chose him that day and RS chose him today. Very true. Somewhere in Dheeru Vikram did find a man far better than his son. And that choice never went well with Baldev.
Edited by shruthiravi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#78
Shruthi- I didn't like the way Baldev looked at @Tanya.
So, we know Dadi was a villain herself in her middle ages😆 I liked the flower they've tucked in her ear, so authentic😆

@Sudha planning a similar fate Anami worries me. I think that's when Satrupa will stepin asa mom & redeem herself in Anami's eyes.
Edited by simran_singh_24 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#79
@simran Gayatri knows the class. See to some extend she might not be averse to Anami's adoptive parents as they are Brahmins. Upper caste. But Sudha may not be that. Yes Sudha's plan worries me too. But she will do it naa. She will try that for sure.
What is Pandey surname by the way. Is it Brahmin or some low caste. I am not sure what Baldev wants with Tanya. I agree to you. Somewhere I also felt something amiss though couldnt connect to it.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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What was the most shocking part of today's episode was Sudha's past. As almost everyone has been saying, Gayatri is not as straightforward as she seems. Somewhere she was responsible for the way Narottam was raised. And now she's responsible for Sudha in the mental asylum and possibly for the reason Sudha wants revenge.

Gayatri obviously didn't like Sudha and when she pretended to accept Sudha, Sudha was beside herself. But then Sudha was deceived and Narottam was shunned. You're right. Gayatri only accepted Anami because of the blood in her veins. If she hadn't been proven to be Satrupa and Baldev's daughter, Gayatri would never have accepted Anami. And now that that Anami has been proven to be her granddaughter, she will do everything she can to ensure Anami stays on her side and becomes heir to Royal Steels so that Avdhoot or Narottam never get anything.

It has been said time and time again that Lal Mahal is not as simple as it seems. It's full of treachery and backstabbing and almost every episode proves as such. Even those who are just touched by Lal Mahal can't leave the treachery and backstabbing out of them. Tomorrow's episode will prove that. Ila reveals to Anami about the second DNA test, and yet lies to Adhiraj that Anami read it on her own, thus driving a wedge between the 2. Now it remains to be seen what will actually happen and whether Anami will trust Adhiraj or will this DNA test be the end of their friendship.
Edited by Athene - 8 years ago

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