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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: chicksoup


Benna,

I think you yourself explained why the attitude has differed from V to A. It is the difference in the attitude of the child that S reacts to. If Anami was an obedient kid like Vatsalya, she would have showered her affections on her too.

Satrupa hurts for Anami too. She watched over her daughter as she slept outside, and felt her pain, as she rebelled. For quite some time, she was silent about it, she thought time would heal.

Satrupa's parenting instincts tell her to be strict where required. Since Anami has declared she hates her twice as much, and Avdhoot is so close to being the heir, Sat is in a hurry. She knows the way to get quick results is to blackmail Anami.

Vatsalya was more like a friend to Satrupa. He was he best friend. She didn't have to make him win on the piano or elsewhere. Vatsalya simply stepped down, since he adored his mother.

The mother-daughter equation is always different from mother -son. Without any of these complicationsin my life, and sometimes without much of a reason , I am the one who questions my mother's decisions...and I am very open about it. My brother, on the other hand, loves to pamper her. She is the very same mother. It is just that our expectations from her are different.

Satrupa does know she is in the wrong. But what is done is done. She has asked for apology in her own way, but now she thinks it is Hugh time they started moving on. She finds Anami to be loud and disrespectful, she hopes that will change with education and change in environment. She knows winning over Anami will take a long time, but she doesn't have the luxury of time. So she sticks to the Pathak family stick to make Anami bend, knowing very well it is going to alienate her further from her. Sometimes I even wonder if she thinks Anami will ever love her back... She has just decided being the heir is the best thing for her daughter and she will get her that right. It will take some time for her to understand that daughters are not as quickly forgiving as sons...

I love this version of a mother too. She is a darling, though a little clueless. 😉😳 So let her grow... As she gets to know her daughter... that beyond the fighting spirit, there is a keen sense of righteousness that guides Anami.



We concur largely on Satrupa... How did this happen Chick? 😆😆

Of what I have observed of Satrupa, she seems to be a woman in a hurry. She has decided to dispense with the niceties associated with the reconciliation process... by design or default remains to be seen. 😊








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Posted: 7 years ago
#32
@ TM and people who commented here. Guys you actually made me speechless with all your comments and description on women.
Hats off to you people. I just don't have a single word to justify the way TM represented in her post.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#33
Excellent post by you, Benna! 👏
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Posted: 7 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: sanfan

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We concur largely on Satrupa... How did this happen Chick? 😆😆

Of what I have observed of Satrupa, she seems to be a woman in a hurry. She has decided to dispense with the niceties associated with the reconciliation process... by design or default remains to be seen. 😊


😉 Yeah, quite a miracle!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Actually i m amezed , that how strong satrupa is 😲. After today's episode she know anami hate her more . But still she is not behave like that bechari majboor nari 👏. She is definitely hurt by anami's word.but 😕. So family members and anami not understand her and think she is ...🤢. i think satrupa need to express her emotions.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#36
🤗Wow!!!! What a brilliant post... something right out of heart... reading this made me feel one too many emotions...

Madhu, Satrupa and Sudha ... the mother... the woman ... they are not same and never will love the same way. Like you so beautifully described Madhu, she is that mother that every child deserves... she is the definition of pure unadulterated love.

But I want to add just a small perspective ... Madhu is by far the luckiest of all three. She is not rich but she is married to a man rich in everything that matters...she never witnessed the horror of greed and power. Her life was simple and so was her heart... she loves like there is no end to it. Her life and love is never challenged ... and when they do, she will win too ...coz she knew what love means as she had seen it all her life :)

Satrupa is the most complicated character ... she failed as a mother? Yes she did ... the moment she gave away her tiny baby ... for greed? for power? yes ... but thats not all to it right? She saw a different world ... a world that is driven by power. Her marriage might have been nothing but a deal between two empire ... he husband never knew her... her life was defined by her status. The idea of love might have been different for her. She needs to win and for her being a mother means that.

I have high hopes for her... for all her flaws, her daughter will teach her the love that Madhu gave her. That version of love which is not demanding or matlabi. The selfless love her mother gave for 16 years... Satrupa will have her wakening ... I wish we will see a scene someday where Satrupa will feel a bit jealous or sad seeing the love between Anami and Madhu...

Sudha shows us that even the most purest relationship, the one between a mother and her child too can be deceitful in this Kaliyug. A woman who doesnt deserve to be a mother, can also give birth to a child. She is not just a woman who failed being a good mother... she is just a failed woman. Satrupa didnt lose her self when she lost the battle of love. No. She was and is a woman who knew her worth ... But Sudha is a failure. She lost her child and herself ... And future has nothing but more failures in store for her.

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Posted: 7 years ago
#37
Benna, it's been a pleasure reading your thoughts and the considered and thought provoking views of all who've posted here. I don't know that I can add anything to what's already been put so eloquently. This show is making us pause and think about so many relationships. And about the woman behind the mother.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: chicksoup


😉Yeah, quite a miracle!
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🤣 this is a miracle indeed!! You two agreeing on something.

she seems to be a woman in a hurry. She has decided to dispense with the niceties associated with the reconciliation process... by design or default
This is the perfect summary for Satrupa at the moment.

As usual rekha 👏
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Apologies for being a few days too late Benna
Also since I haven't seen past few episodes (but have seen yest and today's one) this may be inaccurate/biased


Let me start with the least important mother (atleast as of now) - Kamini..she is clueless and probably useless too..also is greedy enough to give up her only son for the power that she will get in exchange..power that she has been craving...if nothing else..this is one thing she has in common with Satrupa (unfortunately )..the ability to give up on her child irrespective of the circumstances..I know it's harsh to compare Satrupa with a woman like Kamini but that one action of Satrupa..that one crime..of giving up her new born is forever going to be a blog on her as a mother


Pagli Paditayaan : from what has been shown, she is the best (as a mother) of the 5 that have been depicted in the show.. ironically she is the only one who unequivocally loves a child..a girl was wasn't even biologically related to her..yes intial it could have been because she didn't have one of her own..but even after giving birth to a son, she never neglected or loved the adopted daughter any less..never discriminated between the two..neither on the basis of genes nor on the basis of sex..the woman was ready to go to jail just so that her daughter didn't have to go to a place she didn't want to..so attuned is she to her daughter's mood, likes, dislikes..so completely she had accepted Anami as her own
Again ironic that the one who loves her child the most is the one who has to stay away from her..

Gayatri: not much has been shown about her relationship with Baldev except the and peices indicating that she didn't really stand by him when he was disinherited and sort of feels bad about that (though I am not sure whether she was any wrong in not standing up for baldev..young Baldev was a brat and did wrong deeds that he refuses to accept responsibility for) .and maybe she is compensating for not being there for baldev by being a great influence and a good grandmother to Anami..however no matter how nice she is to Anami, she like everyone else has treated Narottam badly..she seems to have a moral code but may not be as stringent about it as one would wish to be



As for Sudha, I am not sure if she had norattam for revenge..to me it feels like she was probably cheated and unhinged as she is..decided to use her own son (whom she hopefully did love till then) to get back at Singh's for not giving her what she deserved..blinded by rage, she doesn't see that she is burning her son in the same rate and ruining his life too..she wants RS and LM for her son..but not just because he deserves it but more so to destruys Vikramaditya and family
I won't be surprised if Narottam is not as feminine as he pretendeds to be ..but acts out a role on Sudhas advice...as of now if there is someone who is pure evil..that's her

Lastly coming to Matlabi Mataji, the most complex of them all..and the one who (or whose depiction) confuses me to no end..she seemed to be a great mother to Vatsalya, but she has failed Anami from the start...gave her up.forgot about her..and then uprooted her from her loving family because she seemed it for to do so..she accepts her mistake/crime but is unapologetic to the point of being indifferent about her crime..she expects Anami to understand her/follow her instructions/accep t her gestures without putting any dedicated efforts into reconciling with her..that too after blackmailing her regarding people she cares for the most..
Making Anami fit to be the heir and ensuring that her "child" gets to control RS and LM is still a priority over what her daughter feels/wants..
Her sense of entitlement trumps her motherly instinct atleast in Anami's case..as great a mother she was to Vatsalya, she is far from endearing herself to her daughter..yes she knows which buttons to push to get a particular response..but has no idea (or patience) regarding to use that knowledge in a constructive way...
Her past experience and the way she was cheated into marriage has probably made her bitter and hardened her..but that shouldn't form a basis for her interactions with Anami as she had no hand in that
Edited by SoreThumb - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@Beena a very good post. Actually there are 5 mothers in the show if you include Gayatri and Adhiraj's mother Jyothi who is no more.
Being a mother, a nurturing force I believe is an intrinsic feeling that is there in every woman. But circumstances and people decide how that force comes out.
In Madhu it came naturally. There are two things for the same. First she has been loved as a wife and murari pathak is a very noble man. They lived a simple yet happy life and in Anami she found the completeness. When latoo happened her family was complete and blissful.

Now comes Satrupa. She was also a mother. But along with that she was also ambitious. Motherhood to her though was choice it was linked to power for her. Because she was not in a good marriage. Her husband didnt love her, he had another woman in his life and a child with her. So this ambition is what made her give away girl and keep the boy. Now she is more concerned about Anami as the heir as she doesnt want what she has build to go to an outsider. When boy is not there, girl also fine is her attitude. Her motherly instinct is mixed with ambition and hence it doesnt come out natural, but then she is also not a bad mother, she is a woman with flaws.

Gayatri her problem was the universal problem of all mothers. My child cannot do anything wrong. So she supported Baldev. Had her dissatisfaction with Satrupa. But as Anami comes as a granny she shows more maturity, putting effort to mend relations. She is also aware of class and status hence she gives different treatment to Anami and to Narotham though both are Baldev's children.

Sudha I have never understood why God bestows motherhood to women like Sudha who only wants to use their children to achieve their goals. Children are nothing but a medium for their revenge, status, fame or whatever. If the child doesnt meet that curse the child, blame the child, berate the child, torture the child. The natural nurturing feminine instinct is completely absent in this woman who is using her son as just a pawn.

Last come Jyothi. I love that name. Jyothi means flame, it means light also. Flame can burn a palace, light can show the path also. This woman is no more. But the sense of purpose, sense of justice that this woman has put in her son, it burns through Adhiraj. I would say Jyothi has raised a good son. A son who has the courage to fight the battle for justice. He might fall, but the light his mother showed will always make him stand up and fight. In the mess of Chakravyuha she will remain the light for Adhiraj. She has always remained that way for him. She has raised a good daughter also. Tanya who sees good in everything. And whatever is going to happen in Chakravyuh Jyothi's children Tanya and Adhiraj would have major role to play and hopefully they will never disappoint their mother who taught them to stand up and fight for their right.

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