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Posted: 9 years ago
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I really really want to say the the ending episodes are awesome, just that I won't be very convincing if I say that as I am a poor liar ;).

It was a mixed episode, some good and some stupid, and some disturbing scenes. The first scene at RG's office was an epitome of stupidity, I am not even talking about our heroine and her 'big' talk. I just didn't understand how Ananya got entry into RG's office. Doesn't the office have security guards or even a receptionist, how did they let her in? Ok, let'sassume Ananya is a superwoman who is unstoppable by anyone, why didn't anyone even inform RG that Ananya is barging into his office? A big shot like RG doesn't have even a intercom at office? An idiotic scene with zero logic. The scene could have been made better by showing Ananya creating a hungama at the office reception, RG being informed by the guards, he coming there, and Annaya uttering the same (meaningless) dialogues there at the reception. The effect would have been same, but atlesst it would have looked less unreal. Ananya's behaviour, she is becoming increasingly destructive, I am extremely disappointed with the way she is being portrayed, I understand her frustrations and lack of control, but she blurting out Kabir's agenda of exposing RG in the next 48 hours is just heights, she isn't doing anything useful, atlesst Kabir gives out a feeling of doing something (though we are yet to see the results), but Ananya is just talk these days, on what basis she claims RG's demise will have her name on it...

The scene I hated most in the episode was the last one, perhaps most viewers might have enjoyed Shreya getting humiliated, I do enjoy whenever she is at the receiving end, but this time, the makers insulted the sentiments of truly mentally ill patients in the name of insulting Shreya. It was an insensitive scene. Shreya should be humiliated for her cruel thoughts and behaviour , not for her mental condition. Perhaps for the first time ever, I felt truly disconnected with Kabir for instigating this propaganda.

Kabir - Richa rapport was heartwarming, almost as good as Kabir - Ronnie.

Another thing I failed to understand, Ananya is continuing to mouth those death threats to RG, but no one (except Kabir's half hearted attempts) bother to reprimand her for the same, neither her mother nor her friends. When does it become a acceptable behaviour for affected parties to take the law in their own hand and punish the offenders by restoring to violence? Why don't anyone tell Annaya how wrong her thoughts and actions are? Are they scared that she will divert her vengeance towards them?

Taking of anger, Kabir's anger lacked the bite, missing the angry EIC who never bothered to curtail his anger or tongue :(. He looked almost scared to scold Ananya even when she was totally in wrong, only his order to get in the car had some bite. Is it because he is scared of her reactions, or is it truly because he thinks he doesn't have rights to scold her.. But that never stopped him from speaking his mind before the 50 episode mark.

Among the three KaYa scenes, I liked the one outside the house most, Kabir's demeanour and his expressions were the highlight of the scene, especially the pain in him when Ananya said 'Thank you'. He looked very much in need of a comforting hug. Btw, he didn't need to have said the dialogue he doesn't know why, but he feels concerned and scared for her, everyone including Annaya knows the 'why' ;).

The other KaYa scene near the famous window, it looked repetitive to me, with Ananya's frustration and Kabir's pacifying words.

Perhaps I had been telling this for about a month now, that i am hoping that this track will eventually lead to Ananya accepting Kabir as her equal partner in love instead of the hero she worshipped. It has becoming to increasingly doubtful that my hope would ever get realised, I don't want Ananya accepting Kabir because he gets justice for her father or because it is Ronnie's wish, but it seems like that's how the makers are going to project it as. I still believe that Ananya does love Kabir as the flawed human he is, but unless they show her realisation before the case closure, we will never be sure :(. Annaya's imaginary convo with Ronnie was good, it is again a heart vs head moment. Ananya's heart bringing in Ronnie's image to convince her head ;), but I didn't like the mention of Ronnie's last wish :(. The scene was spoilt for me because of that dialogue. Isn't their mutual love enough for her to accept Kabir?

One good thing about the episode, Manav is surely not being redeemed, his call and meet with Kabir could be because of two reasons, either he is used by RG & Shreya to falsely lure Kabir or he himself is making a deal with Kabir because he realised Shreya is a lost cause. Whatever the case maybe, I guess (or hope) Kabir is having his own plan to manipulate Manvav.

Last but not least, I echo Baby's sentiments, it is not the KKN we all loved, it is a mess now, and not just because of Shreya :(

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Posted: 9 years ago
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u have saod it all perfectly ...have nth more to say ...

i was watching one of d wrap up shoot vids ...in an interview kritika said reporters started wid papa's case and kabir being ananya's hero n ll end wid papa's case n kabir becoming ananya's hero ...so ananya ll love only d heroic kabir ...and by proving SK innocent kabir ll again bcum d same so ananya ll come running back to kabir's arms ...nt bfr dat ...

i dint like ronnie mentioning abt his last wish ...otherwise i loved dat scene ..ronnie was alwaz d voice of ananya's subconscious mind ...who appeared yest ...

agree wid u abt ur thots on shreya's illness being used as weapon by kabir ...but i had seen dis coming wid KL taking so much tym to convince bosses...but nth can justify it ...

i think i dint see mNav in kkn on last day ...so may b he ll b out of kkn ...lets c

for watefer reasons ananya returns to kabir ...i feel kabir shud get ananya back otherwise poor man ll b miserable all his life n d worst part he ll blame himself ...but i just wish we cud ve got ananya apology ...but alas ...

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Posted: 9 years ago
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i feel as SK's daughtef and KS's gf ananya had all rights to know d truth from kabir's mouth nt just frm some random mail n she had all rights to feel hurt betrayed n offended ...but d way anaya has taken all dis n is behaving till now ...i think it was right on kabir's part to lie to ananya ...coz may b a more matured ananaya was needed in dis case ...n kabir taking everything silently is nt making much difference ...may b his selfless love shud ve taken a back seat n he shud ve confronted after her knowing full truth frm dada ...

but as u said in ur post after proposal d love v feel for ourselves is d most selfless kind of love n kabir claiming dat he loves ananya more dan dat is sth dat cannot b imagined

sorry if i dint make any sense
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Geetha an intresting review!
I think the biggest problem with epis these days is the repitition of scenes. We r getting same Ananya being hyper and Kabir pacifying her scenes almost daily. I miss the strategist Ananya so much here. Wont say much about her impulsiveness because this is what makes her Ananya. Shes flawed and I had accepted the fact with all its beauty long ago.

But I would much appreciate if we had some variety in KaYa scenes. Like for a change we can have Ananya pacifying a stressed Kabir or they ending up cracking an accidental joke and then realizing how much they miss those moments.

As for the epi, the scene I liked the most was Ananya thinking abt Kabir and ending up imagining a conversation with Ronnie. I think most of us have tempted ourselves to beleive that Ananya will make her move towards Kabir due to Ronnies last wish or Kabir clearing SKs name but I didnt feel so. Rather the scene with Ronnie highlighted Ananyas confusion. It was not that she didnt remember about the last wish but Ronnie reiteriting it makes her realize that how shes still lost in her battle of mind n heart even though she knows all of Armaan, Anita, Ronnie etc want them to reconcile. She has not been able to makeup with Kabir even despite of the last wish and this makes her more confused. She hasnt yet realized/accepted that she loves Kabir irrespective of all his flaws. Kabir is on her mind 24*7 but she doesnt agree. The biggest proof being when Sunny talks of bad news she instantly relates it to Kabir n becomes worried. 😳

I think we will soon come to know of what she feels n whats on her mind, probably during the last hug scene, the one shown in SBS.

So I am being hopeful about KaYa but I would still say that we could have had better scenes this week...its too much repition now.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Another nice analysis of the episode Geetha!

I am in a hurry today so this reply might not be of the regular length..I guess I am the odd one out when it comes to Ronnie-Ananya's scene.. I feel it was Ananya speaking to her subconscious (and the makers used Ronnie to make the scene truly poignant)...why? our subconscious mind is the one that aids in maintaining our homeostasis and that is what Ronnie always did for Ananya - he helped her achieve an internal balance/equilibrium..that is what happened yesterday too! I agree they should not have brought up KaYa being together as Ronnie's last wish but then I am refraining myself from taking it literally and instead thinking of it as Ananya's attempt to seek another assurance in the form of Ronnie's last wish to sort out the conflict between her heart and mind (just like she did with Anita and Armaan always been vocal of his trust on Kabir)..You could see her nodding in affirmation when Armaan came in and that clearly states that she was not going to counter it or oppose because this is the same thing that her heart has been shouting for so long now (from the time Rajveer has told her the entire truth)...We all look for such assurances whenever there is a conflict between our heart and mind..I personally a lot of time keep pestering the same people again and again for assuring myself hahaha!
I too hope that Kabir has some plan to manipulate Manav! I don't want Manav to come out of all this unscathed..he needs to pay a price for his misdeeds!

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sona_naksh

i feel as SK's daughtef and KS's gf ananya had all rights to know d truth from kabir's mouth nt just frm some random mail n she had all rights to feel hurt betrayed n offended ...but d way anaya has taken all dis n is behaving till now ...i think it was right on kabir's part to lie to ananya ...coz may b a more matured ananaya was needed in dis case ...n kabir taking everything silently is nt making much difference ...may b his selfless love shud ve taken a back seat n he shud ve confronted after her knowing full truth frm dada ...

but as u said in ur post after proposal d love v feel for ourselves is d most selfless kind of love n kabir claiming dat he loves ananya more dan dat is sth dat cannot b imagined

sorry if i dint make any sense


I agree Sona, I did feel Ananya was right in feeling hurt and betrayed that Kabir had hidden the truth from her, but she is getting less and less relatable in every episode.

I don't think Kabir is taking all these silently for her sake, it is the way he is with her in this relationship, he had always been ready to go any extent to keep her in his life. I really can't fathom his kind of love, I like to belive, it is indeed his own selfishness that makes him take everything silently, because he wanting her in his life is a kind of selfishness too.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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All is fair in love and war. Shreya and RG exploited Kabir and Ananya's weakness. Now, Kabir is doing the same, so what's the big deal.

To be fair, Shreya and RG didn't give a heads-up. They just did. In Kabir's case, he has been telling Shreya to stay away from him and Ananya. She refused to listen and didn't take him seriously. That is entirely her fault, and she is paying the price for the same.

Besides, the news channels which are breaking the news didn't have problem, who are we to discuss morality here. Like it or not, what they showed on the show reflects the current state of our electronic media which is driven by TRP and 24x7 breaking news.

Ananya-Ronnie scene - I am not thinking too much about it. Not worth it, I feel. For me CVs have messed up Ananya's character big time over the last 25 episodes. They need to bring Kabir-Ananya relation to a closure over the next three days so will show something to suit their convenience.

Kabir-Richa scenes make for an interesting watch. Richa has stepped up her game to support Kabir and get justice for Ronnie. What we wanted Ananya to do, Richa is doing.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Malika

Geetha an intresting review!
I think the biggest problem with epis these days is the repitition of scenes. We r getting same Ananya being hyper and Kabir pacifying her scenes almost daily. I miss the strategist Ananya so much here. Wont say much about her impulsiveness because this is what makes her Ananya. Shes flawed and I had accepted the fact with all its beauty long ago.

I agree Malika, she is impulsive and that's why I don't entirely question her confrontion with RG. But she had time to think about the confrontion during her journey to RG's office, she blurting out about exposing him in 48 hours is almost same as announcing Kabir's plan to the whole world. And I am disapointed with the writers because with Kabir, they have shown a character progression, with Annaya too they did show the maturity during the Kabir past revelation track, but now Ananya is back to square one. :(

But I would much appreciate if we had some variety in KaYa scenes. Like for a change we can have Ananya pacifying a stressed Kabir or they ending up cracking an accidental joke and then realizing how much they miss those moments.

Seems like they needed input from creative people like you ;). Yes, the scenes lack variety.

As for the epi, the scene I liked the most was Ananya thinking abt Kabir and ending up imagining a conversation with Ronnie. I think most of us have tempted ourselves to beleive that Ananya will make her move towards Kabir due to Ronnies last wish or Kabir clearing SKs name but I didnt feel so. Rather the scene with Ronnie highlighted Ananyas confusion. It was not that she didnt remember about the last wish but Ronnie reiteriting it makes her realize that how shes still lost in her battle of mind n heart even though she knows all of Armaan, Anita, Ronnie etc want them to reconcile. She has not been able to makeup with Kabir even despite of the last wish and this makes her more confused. She hasnt yet realized/accepted that she loves Kabir irrespective of all his flaws. Kabir is on her mind 24*7 but she doesnt agree. The biggest proof being when Sunny talks of bad news she instantly relates it to Kabir n becomes worried. 😳

I like the fact that they are showing Ananya's change of heart gradually, but somewhere the timing is wrong, they should have made her realose her heart's desire before Kabir becoming a hero again, now there will always be a question mark on the reason behind her acceptance. But Yes, I agree, he is in her mind always.

I think we will soon come to know of what she feels n whats on her mind, probably during the last hug scene, the one shown in SBS.

Let's hope for the best!!

So I am being hopeful about KaYa but I would still say that we could have had better scenes this week...its too much repition now.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: idonkno

Another nice analysis of the episode Geetha!


I am in a hurry today so this reply might not be of the regular length..I guess I am the odd one out when it comes to Ronnie-Ananya's scene.. I feel it was Ananya speaking to her subconscious (and the makers used Ronnie to make the scene truly poignant)...why? our subconscious mind is the one that aids in maintaining our homeostasis and that is what Ronnie always did for Ananya - he helped her achieve an internal balance/equilibrium..that is what happened yesterday too! I agree they should not have brought up KaYa being together as Ronnie's last wish but then I am refraining myself from taking it literally and instead thinking of it as Ananya's attempt to seek another assurance in the form of Ronnie's last wish to sort out the conflict between her heart and mind (just like she did with Anita and Armaan always been vocal of his trust on Kabir)..You could see her nodding in affirmation when Armaan came in and that clearly states that she was not going to counter it or oppose because this is the same thing that her heart has been shouting for so long now (from the time Rajveer has told her the entire truth)...We all look for such assurances whenever there is a conflict between our heart and mind..I personally a lot of time keep pestering the same people again and again for assuring myself hahaha!
I too hope that Kabir has some plan to manipulate Manav! I don't want Manav to come out of all this unscathed..he needs to pay a price for his misdeeds!


No Preeti, you aren't the only one, I too felt, it is the sane part of Annaya's subconisous mind which took Ronnie's form to tell her what she wanted to hear, but I don't want her to think about Ronnie's last wish even in her subconisous mind. I don't want to have even iota of doubt that this she is accepting Kabir because that's what is expected of her.

Perhaps, I am having idealistic expectation ;)
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -sharada-


All is fair in love and war. Shreya and RG exploited Kabir and Ananya's weakness. Now, Kabir is doing the same, so what's the big deal.

To be fair, Shreya and RG didn't give a heads-up. They just did. In Kabir's case, he has been telling Shreya to stay away from him and Ananya. She refused to listen and didn't take him seriously. That is entirely her fault, and she is paying the price for the same.

Besides, the news channels which are breaking the news didn't have problem, who are we to discuss morality here. Like it or not, what they showed on the show reflects the current state of our electronic media which is driven by TRP and 24x7 breaking news.

Ananya-Ronnie scene - I am not thinking too much about it. Not worth it, I feel. For me CVs have messed up Ananya's character big time over the last 25 episodes. They need to bring Kabir-Ananya relation to a closure over the next three days so will show something to suit their convenience.

Kabir-Richa scenes make for an interesting watch. Richa has stepped up her game to support Kabir and get justice for Ronnie. What we wanted Ananya to do, Richa is doing.



Sharada, I agree with you that what is shown is what is happening in real life journalism. But I expected a better ethics and behaviour from our hero. And exposing and taking advantage of one's mental sickness is same as exposing physical deformity. For me, it is equvaldnt to yellow journalism. Guess I have too much of expectation on ethics part,

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