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Posted: 11 years ago
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Before i say anything, plz dont generalize me as Pro Sanaya, Pro Ashish, Pro Paro or Pro Rudra,,,🤔

Everyone in my family watches the show and they dont like Rudra's character,, just bcoz one person does not approve of Paro, is it sensible enough to generalize EACH AND EVERY ONE,,,
as far as i am concerned,,, i watch the show for entertainment,, sometimes i relate to paro, sometimes to Rudra, i could understand paro in the friday's and monday's episode, but then again tuesday's episode left me puzzled, so i hav to agree with u here,,,

But i hav seen many members trying to defend Rudra too,, so isnt their pen powerful too,, y point out only Paro defenders????😕


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Zeeliciousxo

I agree, I posted the same thing on someone's thread yesterday. If many people are feeling a huge disconnect from the female lead at such a crucial point in the story then clearly the CVs are doing something wrong right??

My family (grandparents, parents, aunt and uncle, cousins) and a few friends watch RR and this week all of them do not understand Paro and are wondering why she is being so contradictory. They are especially annoyed with the way she is letting Laila stay in the haveli, they are saying it is "beyond stupid" (my mom's words not mine, so shaant) to let your partner's ex-lover stay in your haveli even if she won't affect your relationship - that is not the point. Since I like playing the devil's advocate I tried defending Paro and said Laila needs protection, but my grandpa just asked if there is no one else that can give Laila protection...does the BSD only have one officer?? And who is Paro to decide whether Laila stays in the haveli or not (she is not an elder nor an owner of the haveli so as she herself asks what right does she have to make such decisions)?? Why can't Papa Ranawat take action and order Junior Ranawat to take Laila to the BSD headquarters and put her under protection there??

The TRP audience has definitely felt disconnected from Rudra as well before - my grandpa used to say that Rudra is too angry and so was often not interested in watching him in his angry avatar. He became more interested in RR when Rudra became slightly mellow/kind, and Paro was a character he always found to be understandable and kind...

Now he's annoyed because he doesn't understand Paro's actions and it upsets him that because of her unclear actions her relationship with Rudra is crumbling. He HATES Laila. And you cannot say my grandpa doesn't understand Paro because he's a man, let me just say that he's not your typical man. And my mom, aunt, grandma and a few friends are frustrated with Paro as well.

The CVs need to find a good balance with both Rudra and Paro if they want to attract the TRP audience in big numbers. It is hard to feel connected to both characters at times, though I will definitely say that Rudra's characterization is more consistent than Paro's. Paro fans need to demand consistency in Paro's character as well from the CVs, does she not deserve it!!





They need to keep laila with parud...and indian shows are not high on logic anyway.Otherwise cant rudra himself say to paro,"laila can be provided with protection elsewhere too?"
And paro did not decide that laila will live there...she merely said if laila does not live in the haweli then she wont ever be able to forgive herself and rudra.
And I repeat...may be paro supporters dont think she is inconsistent, or may be they think the contradiction and bipolar behaviour goes with the situation and that paro is understandable...I personally think insecurity makes humans really illogical.So people who defend or support her dont need to demand anything unless they themselves dont see or feel the need of that demand.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i agree with you eve partially
the execution has to improve , trps audience dont analyse ,all the hidden meaning and symbolism is overlooked

but yes the analysis is not limited to paro , but to rudra and other characters too

i once made a post on kaki's sumer betrayal track not making sense , may defended kaki then saying it made perfect sense to them and i buy it that it makes sense to them , it didnt to me , even today the way kaki's character shaped up doesnt make sense

so yeah forum is not a correct reflection of the viewers because we are more involved and switching cost is high , we will not be able to post here , one reason i watch the show even when the track is not appealing , so we stick , we try to figure out good and bad positive and negative approaches here
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: soulspirit

Before i say anything, plz dont generalize me as Pro Sanaya, Pro Ashish, Pro Paro or Pro Rudra,,,🤔

Everyone in my family watches the show and they dont like Rudra's character,, just bcoz one person does not approve of Paro, is it sensible enough to generalize EACH AND EVERY ONE,,,
as far as i am concerned,,, i watch the show for entertainment,, sometimes i relate to paro, sometimes to Rudra, i could understand paro in the friday's and monday's episode, but then again tuesday's episode left me puzzled, so i hav to agree with u here,,,

But i hav seen many members trying to defend Rudra too,, so isnt their pen powerful too,, y point out only Paro defenders????😕



Well said! Different people relate to different characters and understand them differently.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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They need to keep laila with parud...and indian shows are not high on logic anyway.Otherwise cant rudra himself say to paro,"laila can be provided with protection elsewhere too?"
And paro did not decide that laila will live there...she merely said if laila does not live in the haweli then she wont ever be able to forgive herself and rudra.
And I repeat...may be paro supporters dont think she is inconsistent, or may be they think the contradiction and bipolar behaviour goes with the situation and that paro is understandable...I personally think insecurity makes humans really illogical.So people who defend or support her dont need to demand anything unless they themselves dont see or feel the need of that demand.

buddy i dont intend to get into a argument , but this is a genuine question not directed towards you, ny one can answer it
what is this paro supporter and rudra supporter
to me the show has been consistently inconsistent , i agree when you or any one for that matter express an opinion here there as there is no vested interest , so it has to be a genuine opinion
but for a 100 odd episode , with so much of ups and down (i use trps as a proxy ) , how can people be happy with the characterization of paro or rudra or kaki or anyone else
it is a project at the end of the day , some time good , some time very good , some time bad


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Posted: 11 years ago
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They need to keep laila with parud...and indian shows are not high on logic anyway.Otherwise cant rudra himself say to paro,"laila can be provided with protection elsewhere too?"
And paro did not decide that laila will live there...she merely said if laila does not live in the haweli then she wont ever be able to forgive herself and rudra.
And I repeat...may be paro supporters dont think she is inconsistent, or may be they think the contradiction and bipolar behaviour goes with the situation and that paro is understandable...I personally think insecurity makes humans really illogical.So people who defend or support her dont need to demand anything unless they themselves dont see or feel the need of that demand.


Indian shows are, yes, not high on logic; but maybe that needs to change now because before the audience used to lap up the illogical tracks happily...now? Not so much. And we have social media to show our disapproval of such contrived tracks. CVs, take note.

Paro has decided whether Laila stays or not. Laila is staying in the first place because Paro insisted that she should be nursed back to health in the Ranawat home...despite Rudra's disapproval. Later when Rudra tells Laila to go Paro challenges him in front of Laila and asks him why should she go?? Well why not??

You don't need to repeat yourself, I've seen your opinions already.

Paro supporters will always find a way to justify Paro and Rudra supporters will always find a way to justify Rudra...those of us who have a problem with both (though not necessarily on the same day) are accused of bashing or being biased. Some days I like Paro more, some days I like Rudra more. On Friday I identified so much with Paro's pain, I wanted to weep along with her. This week I do not understand her and I have a right to say so without being flooded with messages trying to justify her behaviour. You understand Paro, that's great. You can't try to force that understanding down my throat. (I am not talking to you specifically here).

Perhaps Paro supporters may not feel the need to demand consistent characterization from the CVs because they understand her but if one just take a step back and looks, they will see that Paro's character is constantly sacrificed for the sake of the story. I love Paro and I think that's deeply unfair. Why is she always twisted for the story?!?!

Thank you for voicing your opinion in a civil manner in response to my own, I appreciate it. Big hug from me 🤗 because I don't like to get too serious about TV shows and fictional characters.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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They need to keep laila with parud...and indian shows are not high on logic anyway.Otherwise cant rudra himself say to paro,"laila can be provided with protection elsewhere too?"
And paro did not decide that laila will live there...she merely said if laila does not live in the haweli then she wont ever be able to forgive herself and rudra.
And I repeat...may be paro supporters dont think she is inconsistent, or may be they think the contradiction and bipolar behaviour goes with the situation and that paro is understandable...I personally think insecurity makes humans really illogical.So people who defend or support her dont need to demand anything unless they themselves dont see or feel the need of that demand.


buddy i dont intend to get into a argument , but this is a genuine question not directed towards you, ny one can answer it
what is this paro supporter and rudra supporter
to me the show has been consistently inconsistent , i agree when you or any one for that matter express an opinion here there as there is no vested interest , so it has to be a genuine opinion
but for a 100 odd episode , with so much of ups and down (i use trps as a proxy ) , how can people be happy with the characterization of paro or rudra or kaki or anyone else
it is a project at the end of the day , some time good , some time very good , some time bad




Why cant they be happy? To you may be its inconceivable and to me personally it is too, but not everybody thinks like us.And many people who like/adore/support/defend paro have made posts asking the creatives to explain and write her character in a better manner too...just because they understand and are happy with her right now does not mean they are over indulgent mothers or blind followers.
And dont think too deeply about the phrases paro defenders and rudra defenders or supporters 😆 ...I just mean people who relate to or can understand or love or like one character more than the other on a general basis.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Eveline, Nice observation. I am one of those people who watched the episode and felt Paro's words and actions were contradictory.
But when I read some of the posts from princess sunara, Moronskimallika and sanayaisbest. I did get an alternative view point. I had not thought about. But I found their view point very valid and explains what I thought were contradictory actions.
But I can see how people do behave like this in real life too. And I have personal experience in this one :-)
I tell myself I will behave one way and then in the actual situation, I get emotional and behave in the exact way I said I wouldn't. So to me Paro reflected an ordinary human being there...
And so yeah, I did change my opinion. But one should change their opinion when a better opinion that fits and is valid comes along...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Sanayaholic-

True, the Trp audience doesn't analyze the show and characters like us.

However what I feel is that without even analyzing there were people who understood where Paro was coming from and even related to her and there were also people who couldn't make sense of Paro's behavior. This just shows differing point of views and opinions. For some Paro's behavior clicked for some it didn't. I personally think Paro's characterization isn't as bad as many perceive.

Agreed some might connect with her, some might not and likewise with Rudra too. But to be honest I have seen more Paro frustration threads here (and in real too, the people I know , sorry about that), than we don't get Rudra threads. I was just trying to point out one thing, the cvs need to pull up their socks as far as the clarity of Paro is concerned and if we truly love them, I feel we should at least get a message across that you have worked on Rudy and it shows now its time to work on Paro too...just my pov
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: deep0909

Eveline, Nice observation. I am one of those people who watched the episode and felt Paro's words and actions were contradictory.

But when I read some of the posts from princess sunara, Moronskimallika and sanayaisbest. I did get an alternative view point. I had not thought about. But I found their view point very valid and explains what I thought were contradictory actions.
But I can see how people do behave like this in real life too. And I have personal experience in this one :-)
I tell myself I will behave one way and then in the actual situation, I get emotional and behave in the exact way I said I wouldn't. So to me Paro reflected an ordinary human being there...
And so yeah, I did change my opinion. But one should change their opinion when a better opinion that fits and is valid comes along...

Agreed, but how many of the general public have access to such better opinions that will fit an argument is my point...in the absence of such mind changing presentations they are left with the impressions we all were left with...you in a sense validate my post...

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