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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: FairyLiquidSoap


so it is not network 18 but the GEC channel colors interesting Unfortunately TRP is the holy grail of all PH and Channels and till advertisers sponsors and all the GEC come to some sort of understanding this will continue to rule
this does not happen on Western Television but then that is an entirely different ball game where the checks and balances and Nielson rating is far technical and accurate as opposed to here
well RR was an excellent product when it debuted it still is but they too have to recover their investments so they will try all sorts of tricks we were cribbing but look at the UK ratings of RR topped again so probably the lay viewer is looking more for spice rather than finesse I sometime wonder if we the internet audience demand desi soaps to reflect our own cultural demands in which case it will be converse to that of the regular viewers who see the soap only from entertainment point of view and not dissect and analyse the characters and story to the point of sounding rabid like we do here
So then whose taste should be taken into account If they want ad revenue then the TRP sort and if they are looking only for accolades on websites social networking sites then they should reflect that and be happy only with critical appreciation but then it all boils down to revenues so obviously that will be their goal


I know buddy it Is a stupid way to gauge popularity , news channels also fall pray to this but at a lesser extent but far more dangerous
The difference between Indian shows and western shows is the revenue model
Here max revenue is from ads which provokes makers to make show to stay on air for long
And unfortunately ad companies also use Trp as a thump rule
On the othrt hand western e revenue model there major revenue from the copyrights business
Like a Netflixs buying the rights
This is dependant on quality , and so it ultimately helps improving quality
Here unfortunately the parameter itself leads to quality deterioration
Sad but I hope it changes
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Edited by tttttt1 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ttt1


I know buddy it Is a stupid way to gauge popularity , news channels also fall pray to this but at a lesser extent but far more dangerous
The difference between Indian shows and western shows is the revenue model
Here max revenue is from ads which provokes makers to make show to stay on air for long
And unfortunately ad companies also use Trp as a thump rule
On the othrt hand western e revenue model there major revenue from the copyrights business
Like a Netflixs buying the rights
This is dependant on quality , and so it ultimately helps improving quality
Here unfortunately the parameter itself leads to quality deterioration
Sad but I hope it changes
Typos it Ian my phone

So true i think we really need a change in TRP system
an revenue system😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
@Pri
see a lot of American and English serials do get syndicated world wide and obviously they will earn money from there as well but then the product has to be successful for obviously they cannot sell garbage for viewers now are more discernible in their choices I also think they get a certain amount of guaranteed revenue sharing till the viewers lose interest many shows are launched by the networks as opposed to PH here
there have been some critically acclaimed but loss makers like Arrested Development

I guess a change has to sweep the Indian Television industry wont hold my breathe though RR is one of the better shows It appeals to me as opposed to the other shows I tried for a year after the you know what got shut and just in bits and spurts did any serial hold my interest RR despite my cribbing is still worth the watch even on the most mediocre days as the characters actors make it so
I guess we got spoilt initially by the original RR team and now hanker for those days but the story has changed as the tracks had to move on in the soap I also like 11 pm show my 2 desi soaps for the moment
oh well this is something they have to figure out Nice chatting P now off asli duniya calls
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: CrazyBoy-.Hd.-


So true i think we really need a change in TRP system
an revenue system😊


Ideally when online viewing increases rapidly it leads to getting these shows as a Sseries
And that leads to revenue from copyrights
Thats how it happened in the west
But the issue is right desi shows , there are very less shows that people will want to watxh again or hearing about it you would want to buy the series
But I think online viewership wise we are going there ,
Now it Is about a game changer , after a period in every industry there are game changers who just come into the industry and change the rules of the industry
Like Ekta kapoor did in India years back
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: FairyLiquidSoap

@Pri
see a lot of American and English serials do get syndicated world wide and obviously they will earn money from there as well but then the product has to be successful for obviously they cannot sell garbage for viewers now are more discernible in their choices I also think they get a certain amount of guaranteed revenue sharing till the viewers lose interest many shows are launched by the networks as opposed to PH here
there have been some critically acclaimed but loss makers like Arrested Development

I guess a change has to sweep the Indian Television industry wont hold my breathe though RR is one of the better shows It appeals to me as opposed to the other shows I tried for a year after the you know what got shut and just in bits and spurts did any serial hold my interest RR despite my cribbing is still worth the watch even on the most mediocre days as the characters actors make it so
I guess we got spoilt initially by the original RR team and now hanker for those days but the story has changed as the tracks had to move on in the soap I also like 11 pm show my 2 desi soaps for the moment
oh well this is something they have to figure out Nice chatting P now off asli duniya calls


Cheers to that we both typed the same tthing
Game changer required
Some project that will break all the rules of Trp gaining and just make money just for its quality
You know ipk before sat anaash I thought was one , but I was wrong

Also season format Helps , it not a major time gap at least segmenting it that way
Arrested development 30rock also made news cos of its copyright revenue too
There is no base revenue but channel pays a variable base for telecasting
Again that is a small part , some time back did valuation for my work for a similar project non Indian show
Edited by tttttt1 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
The whole TRP system is a bloody joke, which just continues to perpetuate quantity (TRPs) over quality (content). I mean, a sample of households used? A point system, not number of total viewers/households? Really? That's how success of TV shows are measured? The Indian TV industry should really take notes from the UK and American methods, which are so much more accurate.
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Posted: 11 years ago
I prefer our (UK) ratings system...number of households...that too everyday ratings not weekly
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: squivi

The whole TRP system is a bloody joke, which just continues to perpetuate quantity (TRPs) over quality (content). I mean, a sample of households used? A point system, not number of total viewers/households? Really? That's how success of TV shows are measured? The Indian TV industry should really take notes from the UK and American methods, which are so much more accurate.


It is called random sampling buddy , theory is If an adequate random sample size is selected with similar statistical distribution , the population characteristics can be predicted from sample parameters
I mean the distribution , but absolute value cannot be predicted thats where these guys go wrong
Other analytical tools are expensive I guess
Because Trp as a thump rule is fine it It can be used to see drop or gain but should not be made a holy grail
Any day every day total population data is much much mire accurate
Okay I think I should stop too much of statistics gyaan
Edited by tttttt1 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
COLORS drops further to 376 GTVMs (396).

Sasural Simar Ka 3.7 (3.9),
Balika Vadhu 4.5 (4.4),
Madhubala 3.2(2.9),
Beintehaa 3.2 (3.4),
Rang Rasiya 2.7 (2.4),
Uttaran 3.6 (3.3)
Bani Ishq Da Kalma 2.3 (2.2),
Comedy Nights With Kapil 6.9 (7.2)
Fear Factor Khatron Ke Khiladi 4.9 (6.6).

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: vibhutil

COLORS drops further to 376 GTVMs (396).

Sasural Simar Ka 3.7 (3.9),
Balika Vadhu 4.5 (4.4),
Madhubala 3.2(2.9),
Beintehaa 3.2 (3.4),
Rang Rasiya 2.7 (2.4),
Uttaran 3.6 (3.3)
Bani Ishq Da Kalma 2.3 (2.2),
Comedy Nights With Kapil 6.9 (7.2)
Fear Factor Khatron Ke Khiladi 4.9 (6.6).

Thank god it increased.Now hope it will increase this week more since big twist on the way .Tfs
Edited by P.Srinivas - 11 years ago

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