Getting Rudra Right

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I've been going nuts thinking about Rudra. No, not the hotness of the man. But as a voracious reader, I keep thinking--man, I've SEEN guy before. EXACTLY this man, not a mysterious mixture of many literary sources. But where? I had initially bought into the tragic Shakespearan Othello. But Othello never struggled with his heroine, and committed cruelties against her, like Rudra is doing now. The man he is right now is not Othello, or even Rudra dev, the version of Shiva--because even if Paro cant see it, we, the audience and Rudra himself can see he is just a flawed man not a Demi-God. I pulled out my Literature text books, spent the weekend combing through every Hero type there is.

I paused at Anti-Hero, the one we use the most. No. Not enough matching traits. How about the Sociopathic Savior? No no, thats Sherlock/Dexter. The wounded EveryMan? Not possible since those are ordinary men and Rudra is not. The Scarred Scoundrel? Hes not funny enough for the comedy that undercuts that Hero. And then, a casual web search (tvtropes) revealed the following definition for the BYRONIC Hero to my amazed eyes:


Byronic Heroes are charismatic characters with strong passions and beliefs, but who are nonetheless deeply flawed individuals who may act in ways which are socially reprehensible because he's not concerned about his actions coming across as anti-social or cruel. A byronic hero is on his own side and has his own philosophy which he will not change for anyone. His internal conflicts are heavily romanticized. He ponders and wrestles with his struggles and beliefs. Some are portrayed with a suggestion of dark crimes in their past--moral or actual crimes that have stained his nature. The details of this are never concrete details--the "hint" is all.

The following traits are very characteristic of Byronic Heroes and may be helpful in identifying them:

  • Is usually male and is always considered very attractive physically and in terms of personality, possessing a great deal of magnetism and charisma, using these abilities to achieve social and romantic dominance. ( Rudra is incredibly attractive. and his nature is alpha to the point of being ruthless and dominant- and is adored by Aman, Paro, the BSD, General Singh and about 5 million women worldwide)
  • Is very intelligent, perceptive, sophisticated, educated, cunning and adaptable, but also self-centered.
  • Is emotionally sensitive, which may translate into being emotionally conflicted, bipolar, or moody (Hello. My Name is Rudra Pratap Ranawat. I am emotionally conflicted, bipolar or moody.)
  • Is intensely self-critical and introspective and may be described as dark and brooding. He dwells on the pains or perceived injustices of his life, often to the point of over-indulgence. Muses on the circumstances that brought him to this point, including personal failings. (ANY shot of Rudra, night time, drink in hand, eyes intense, hair flying in the wind)
  • Is cynical, world-weary, and jaded, often due to their past which, if uncovered, may reveal a significant loss, or a crime or mistake committed which still haunts him, or, conversely, that he may be suffering from some unnamed crime against him. (momma, momma momma--pretty girls..bad girls..pretty girls..bad girls...)
  • He is extremely passionate, with strong personal beliefs which are usually in conflict with the values of the status quo. He sees his own values and passions as above or better than those of others, manifesting as arrogance or a martyr-like attitude. Sometimes, however, he just sees himself as one who must take the long, hard road to do what must be done. (Rudra's patriotism which resulted in a massacre, and the terrorist-on-flag incident)
  • His intense drive and determination to live out his philosophy without regard to others' philosophies produces conflict, and may result in a tragic end, should he fail, or revolution, should he succeed. Because of this, he is very rebellious and is disrespectful of rank and privilege, though he often has said rank and privilege himself. (hello, Major saab!) This rebellion against rules often leads to social isolation, rejection, or exile, or to being treated as an outlaw, but he will not compromise. (this one is a long list--court martial, fake search warrant, not informing superiors about the Birpur mission...)
  • He is unavoidably self-destructive to the point of rejecting his salvation because he cannot bring himself to trust another person. (Paro.. Paro.. Paro..)


I mean, people---did they or did they not have a printout of this in front of them when they were writing Rudra ?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Wow naps! That is very interesting I've never heard of a Byronic hero! But damn it has n uncanny resemblance to our rudra banna sa.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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You nailed it. Its totally our Rudra Panna here! 😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Luved your post...so Byronic hero it is!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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So that's what he is!
Paro called him Jallad (at a tym.. )
Now she calls him ..Hero , saviour etc
We..Perfectly handsome guy
and then , This guy is too violent, uncontrollable , too harsh and scarred.

But now we know what he really is! he is a whole-some package of a BYRONIC HERO 😲

wow! ur efforts have led u to the 'X MARK' 👏

tfs! 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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interesting 😊

some very interesting characters from classics, ,
rudra you put it beautifully,
godfather is my favorite movie of all times
also scarlett has been an inspiration in the show that is not to be named


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Posted: 11 years ago
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you just cleared a lot of confusions .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Wow now that is some resemblance! Good job!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: napstermonster

I've been going nuts thinking about Rudra. No, not the hotness of the man. But as a voracious reader, I keep thinking--man, I've SEEN guy before. EXACTLY this man, not a mysterious mixture of many literary sources. But where? I had initially bought into the tragic Shakespearan Othello. But Othello never struggled with his heroine, and committed cruelties against her, like Rudra is doing now. The man he is right now is not Othello, or even Rudra dev, the version of Shiva--because even if Paro cant see it, we, the audience and Rudra himself can see he is just a flawed man not a Demi-God. I pulled out my Literature text books, spent the weekend combing through every Hero type there is.

I paused at Anti-Hero, the one we use the most. No. Not enough matching traits. How about the Sociopathic Savior? No no, thats Sherlock/Dexter. The wounded EveryMan? Not possible since those are ordinary men and Rudra is not. The Scarred Scoundrel? Hes not funny enough for the comedy that undercuts that Hero. And then, a casual web search (tvtropes) revealed the following definition for the BYRONIC Hero to my amazed eyes:


Byronic Heroes are charismatic characters with strong passions and beliefs, but who are nonetheless deeply flawed individuals who may act in ways which are socially reprehensible because he's not concerned about his actions coming across as anti-social or cruel. A byronic hero is on his own side and has his own philosophy which he will not change for anyone. His internal conflicts are heavily romanticized. He ponders and wrestles with his struggles and beliefs. Some are portrayed with a suggestion of dark crimes in their past--moral or actual crimes that have stained his nature. The details of this are never concrete details--the "hint" is all.

The following traits are very characteristic of Byronic Heroes and may be helpful in identifying them:

  • Is usually male and is always considered very attractive physically and in terms of personality, possessing a great deal of magnetism and charisma, using these abilities to achieve social and romantic dominance. ( Rudra is incredibly attractive. and his nature is alpha to the point of being ruthless and dominant- and is adored by Aman, Paro, the BSD, General Singh and about 5 million women worldwide)
  • Is very intelligent, perceptive, sophisticated, educated, cunning and adaptable, but also self-centered.
  • Is emotionally sensitive, which may translate into being emotionally conflicted, bipolar, or moody (Hello. My Name is Rudra Pratap Ranawat. I am emotionally conflicted, bipolar or moody.)
  • Is intensely self-critical and introspective and may be described as dark and brooding. He dwells on the pains or perceived injustices of his life, often to the point of over-indulgence. Muses on the circumstances that brought him to this point, including personal failings. (ANY shot of Rudra, night time, drink in hand, eyes intense, hair flying in the wind)
  • Is cynical, world-weary, and jaded, often due to their past which, if uncovered, may reveal a significant loss, or a crime or mistake committed which still haunts him, or, conversely, that he may be suffering from some unnamed crime against him. (momma, momma momma--pretty girls..bad girls..pretty girls..bad girls...)
  • He is extremely passionate, with strong personal beliefs which are usually in conflict with the values of the status quo. He sees his own values and passions as above or better than those of others, manifesting as arrogance or a martyr-like attitude. Sometimes, however, he just sees himself as one who must take the long, hard road to do what must be done. (Rudra's patriotism which resulted in a massacre, and the terrorist-on-flag incident)
  • His intense drive and determination to live out his philosophy without regard to others' philosophies produces conflict, and may result in a tragic end, should he fail, or revolution, should he succeed. Because of this, he is very rebellious and is disrespectful of rank and privilege, though he often has said rank and privilege himself. (hello, Major saab!) This rebellion against rules often leads to social isolation, rejection, or exile, or to being treated as an outlaw, but he will not compromise. (this one is a long list--court martial, fake search warrant, not informing superiors about the Birpur mission...)
  • He is unavoidably self-destructive to the point of rejecting his salvation because he cannot bring himself to trust another person. (Paro.. Paro.. Paro..)


I mean, people---did they or did they not have a printout of this in front of them when they were writing Rudra ?



Oh boy... Oh boy...do I or do I not love your list ...the ultimate proof of Rudy's Byronification by CVs...The ultimate tragic hero and here were are thinking he is original 😆..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Wow! Good job! Reading something like this for the first time! Yes Rudra is a Byronic hero!
Superb post 👍🏼

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