RangRasiya Creativity missing a Woman's touch - Page 7

Originally posted by: CGBSSI

U know i really really really respect u tht u r courageous enough to bring up a valid point pointing towards the sheer loopholes and lack of sensitivity on the Creatives part... among the plethora of posts which involve ONLY justifying the show, the characters, overlooking evn 1% sense and logic,,,

One has to evn think 100 times before making such a topic ,, bcoz it is difficult to put across ur point without being called names and that u r just NITPICKING ,,,,

i always assumed that Creatives tend to butcher a character or shd i say, they get confused as to how to bring a continuity in the story after a certain time period when they dont understand how to take it further,,, fair enough,,,,

but this show , just 3 months old,,, and i hav nothing to say,, Yesterday's episode was a sheer let down,, Paro is just a caricature, a dummy who is molded in order to accommodate the pace of the story with whatsoever no sensibilities of its own,, it feels like her ultimate aim is to win Rudra,, and then she can take sanayaas for all a tom , dick or harry can care,,, Bas life main aur kuch hai hi nahi,,, neither infront nor behind,,, It felt so suffocating to watch someone impose herself on a man who is continuously hurling every kind of humiliation ,,,( Sometimes i wonder tht Why is Sanaya always fascinated by the scripts which involve a hero insulting the heroine and this mindless push n pull )... I am in no way against a woman seeking forgiveness for her faults and proposing a man,, but the way it has been portrayed and executed was just so OTT,,, Paro was looking like a pest who is just not ready to leave u and will cling on to u till she pleases,,, or like a mad impatient child who is on a mission to irritate everyone and get them to fulfill her whims and fancies,, it was not evn entertaining yar evn if we try to keep our brains aside,,,

I DID NOT sign up to watch a story inspired by Shiv parvati,, Those who know abt Shiv parvati would rather watch mythological shows who deal with this subject,, and those who are not aware abt them wont evn understand any head or tail ... what was the need for bringing up such symbolism,, ???

I swear i will go crazy if Sanaya or any other person says again tht they are SHOCKED tht WHY the show is not garnering TRPs,, i mean if the makers believe tht this kind of stuff will fetch them numbers, appreciation and awards, then i am seriously appalled.. 😔

I disagree with some of the points you have made. More than posts justifying yesterday's episode, majority of the posts including mine have called out the pathetic words used by Rudra and Paro's lack of reaction. I have tend to notice a few people are always lamenting that this forum doesnt allow different view. Like seriously?

Secondly please differentiate Sanaya from Paro. While we all like to dissect the character of Paro, to Sanaya its her job. For Sanaya it is her bread and butter and she might have her reasons to have chosen this role. Its not like she is forcing anyone to watch the show.

Rest of your interpretation of Paro- thats complete your opinion and I respect that.

completely agree with u

I disagree with some of the points you have made. More than posts justifying yesterday's episode, majority of the posts including mine have called out the pathetic words used by Rudra and Paro's lack of reaction. I have tend to notice a few people are always lamenting that this forum doesnt allow different view. Like seriously?

Secondly please differentiate Sanaya from Paro. While we all like to dissect the character of Paro, to Sanaya its her job. For Sanaya it is her bread and butter and she might have her reasons to have chosen this role. Its not like she is forcing anyone to watch the show.

Rest of your interpretation of Paro- thats complete your opinion and I respect that.


Apology if i offended u or anyone in any way,,😊 I hav always admired Sanaya as an actress .. wished to see her in some very good roles,,so i am somehow disappointed with the current scenario,, i just wanted to express that...

I totally agree.

Originally posted by: CGBSSI

I disagree with some of the points you have made. More than posts justifying yesterday's episode, majority of the posts including mine have called out the pathetic words used by Rudra and Paro's lack of reaction. I have tend to notice a few people are always lamenting that this forum doesnt allow different view. Like seriously?

Secondly please differentiate Sanaya from Paro. While we all like to dissect the character of Paro, to Sanaya its her job. For Sanaya it is her bread and butter and she might have her reasons to have chosen this role. Its not like she is forcing anyone to watch the show.

Rest of your interpretation of Paro- thats complete your opinion and I respect that.





it is not something that can bother me but all i want to say is 95% is awesome so no worries 😃

Nice post...i do agree with it!

You are totally correct. I can understand where you are coming from when you say "reluctant critic". I find myself in those shoes as well.

Originally posted by: serialjunkie

Yet, I can't shake the feeling that many times, the voice and tone of TV producers, actors, writers echoes a self-congratulatory note, as long as the shows they make appease the baser instincts of human existence. All is well in a capitalistic, profiteering market. but with that comes death of art.

I have to agree with you here but again art that appeals to this market will only survive as the artists themselves have to survive on this very market. Now an art for the sake of art is a privilege. He or she or them should not be dependent on this "market".

And Paro... Paro is not real. She is a figment of imagination, a fantasy, she is what Rudra wants in a woman and is not willing to believe she might exist in reality and quite rightly so..I can't believe myself let alone a misogynist! Laila, KCM and Rudra's mother are antithesis of Paro in different aspects of a character.. or rather Paro is the antithesis of all these put together. So none of these females are real as they are not whole people. Although saying that Laila to some extent has human traits. She is possessive, she is shown to be in love with Rudra(at least till now), ready to fight for it, she desires and hates and loves and fights .. all human emotions, believable and relatable.. yes yes...i know I know .. there will be people who would say her 8 years of attachment is nothing compared to the ethereal attachment of pure "virginal love"..and that people who can't understand that tangent can literally go take a hike. Laila is placed in the Vamp camp .. what do you expect?...still.. not to digress.. Laila has a part of human in her..

Originally posted by: serialjunkie

The forced physical intimacy of the leads appears contrived. It can only evoke sexual tension in a pre-pubescent boy, who has discovered his first remotely sexual awakening.The scenes miss a grown woman's perspective. No woman likes her personal space encroached by a man, especially one she does not trust or love and even if she does, she prefers the person follow her body language and cues before forcing any touches on her.

I would not have been able to say it better than what you said above. There is a total lack of flow or smoothness of transition and a grown woman's perspective. It feels as if they have a checklist of possible "romantic" scenes and somebody is just pushing one after other in random order. Totally forced and contrived. I dare not ask Mr. GH as what his Rudra was doing tying Paro's dori when he was sooo angry???? It so lacked that emotional connect from Rudra there. I believed GH when his Rudra walks in a trance towards Paro in the award ceremony. I believed when Rudra roars at Sumer when he thought Sumer might manhandle Paro for coming in between them yesterday...but tying the dori of a woman is a step taken by a man who is willing to get close or already physically close to a woman. This cannot be smuggled in the name of Rudra's complex character or turbulence of emotions he is experiencing. He is in a phase where he is wanting to move away from her and not towards her ...hence lacks that emotional connect required for that step towards Paro. You were correct... it will only evoke sexual tension in a pre-pubescent boy !

Originally posted by: serialjunkie

If she is scared, you don't push her to the wall and expect her to fall head over heels in love with you. If she is aroused, you don't call her shameless and expect her to excuse you. A woman who confesses her love in public and gets equally publicly rejected, especially one who is raised in a protective and shielded world, cannot be expected to be nonchalant and persistent. Yet, we watch those scenes, and believe that in some way, its romantic and exactly what a woman would do in that situation. Then we are given justifications such as Rudra's ardent protectionism or Paro's unshaken belief in Shiv-Parvati story somehow qualify Paro, the woman, to accept her station in life and continue to convince the man of her true love, even after he accuses her of being a wanton woman.

TV serials are mostly made catering to and for female audience. From men in my life (family and friends) they prefer news channels and documentaries rather than fictional soaps. That does not mean they should not be made to cater for male audience but the fact of the matter still remains that the audience base is female dominated. At the end of the day, a piece of work let it be a book, a show, a painting, a song or any piece of art is a medium of expression for an artist. It has to be treated with respect but however the reader, viewer or audience has a right to make a comment. Now this can be positive or negative. Take it or leave it. Just the way GH says. If the dominance of female audience is bearing an effect on TRPs of this show, then there is a something here to read for the artist or the maker or the team. Why is it not appealing to the larger part of audience? Probably the audience who you are catering to are not able to connect. Seriously, this Shiv Parvathi story has been blown out of proportions.

Originally posted by: serialjunkie

The show never convincingly portrayed a woman's helplessness. Paro's angst and orphan status in a strange house have been more eloquently discussed in the forum. Incisive posts (by napster,NB, AyeReKhushi, FLS, tvbug, swetz, eveline to name a few) have done a fantastic job of explaining Paro, where the CVs left off. In the show, one never got to feel Paro's emotional depth and If ever her emotions were considered, they were equated with free flowing tears or naivete.

Firstly, I don't think there is any intention of portraying Paro in this serial. She is this personification of an answer to all needs and deficiencies of Rudra. I am sorry but it's a shame to gather Paro through incisive posts from IF members. It reflects so severely on Mr. GH and his team. Yes.. this is what is happening though.. that we on IF are imaging Paro which GH does not want to show. Whats the point?.. its his Paro not yours or mine. Ya.. but you can have a view on her. However we have posts which are churned out day after day beating up these views...almost admonishing you .. as you dared to question the ethereal nature of these characters... forces you to believe they might be from makers themselves trying to defend their show or ridiculously feels like grooming the audience!

Originally posted by: serialjunkie

I am not saying that men are incapable of writing a woman's pov. However, a writer's nuance comes through from rich and varied experiences in life. If you've never had your heartbroken and never sensed the helplessness of a lonely woman cornered in a dark street of an unsafe neighborhood, how do you expect to capture her pain and fear? As a writer, if you have not experienced any of it, then you have to ask those who have and then hope that you can do a close approximation, if not full justice to that person's experience in your narrative.

Men are certainly not incapable of writing a woman's pov but to capture the total emotional quotient of what a woman experiences in certain situations is difficult for a man. Same is the situation for women writers with their male characters. The gap is expected and totally understandable until the reality starts slipping through that gap.

nice post SJ...

can you plz write this stuff to cvz because u r damn right...!!!

For a audience which is predominately women, I don't understand why the writers would completely neglect Paro's perspective and only focus on Rudra's grief and loss in life. Yes, I agree that Rudra has not had a easy ride in life but neither has Paro and when they choose to ignore her grief to show scenes in which Rudra is breaking down not just once but several times I feel quite disconnected and somewhat annoyed at this fact. I honestly feel that many women who are watching the show might feel disconnected from Paro's character as well which is why the trps are not reflecting great numbers. When I was watching Sanaya's previous show on Star Plus I felt like I could relate to the character somewhat which is why I enjoyed watching it but unfortunately I feel extremely disconnected when I observe Paro's characterization. I just hope someone from the RR team will read your post because SJ, you have summed up and hit ever nook and cranny on what was disturbing me while watching the show for the past few months.