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Posted: 11 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: surabi

Without taking any sides, can I try to answer this-

Rudra- "because when I was pouncing her and invading her personal space, she was being bewakoof and was blindly trusting a terrorist. she did not want to do anything with me. Now that she has realized her folly, she is trying to cling to me and marry me claiming to be in love and trying every trick to achieve that"

Jokes apart, I had no problem when he was invading her personal space then and when she is turning all obsessive about him now because I have figured out that is how the soap world works.. That is how they move things forward.. we should not think too much.!!!! I have held the naari mukthi morcha flag too long (since 2009 as u can see) and have decided its not worth it!!!!! I am just going to look what is attractive to me and go with the flow!

ps: Always read you posts and enjoy reading them. Funny/sarcastic touch is a treat!


I know its better not to get affected by TV shows. But invariably some or the other thing, triggers empathy and I end up feeling dismayed or infuriated.


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Posted: 11 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: Naach_Basanti



P.S- More than the jibe it is the lack of reaction from Paro that was infuriating. They should have at least shown some anger.


Eggjactly! What ensued post that allegation was truly a mark of a mentally dented girl.
Danda Rudra Banna ko pada tha; mental balance Paro Mayya ka hil gaya hai!😆

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Posted: 11 years ago
#23
Paro was sad.. and that heartbreaking sadness was so clearly visible in Sanaya's eyes.. I found it as one of her most stunning expressions in the show.. and I expected it to stay there a little longer!

Unfortunately that didn't happen! She was back with her antics within seconds...

I was little irritated by Paro's persistence today.. I thought Rudra should be given some time to understand all that is happening around him.. He was not allowed some moments even to realize that his accusations were wrong ...
Edited by golpokobita - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: napstermonster

There is an excellent reason you are not a Birpuri Village Girl with exactly 5th standard levels of education, a passive life that allowed you to drift along with no say and no voice for 18 years, and then Fate suddenly gave you--not just a say--but the only say--- in your choices. You are a smart woman who has a reaction to the abusive words being thrown at that village girl, and you would be right. You feel for her, extrapolate his cruel words as a slap to her pride, as something to protest. All right. Even Rudra, in his asking her---what is WRONG with you...he is right.



But from Paro's perspective, everything that is happening to her parallels the God narrative she has heard growing up--believing it, honestly worshiping it, leaving all decisions to it. She thinks she is going through the trials of Parvati, and sees literally nothing wrong with the comparison. When he says those horrible things--to her mind, he is just causing her additional "tapassya" that she must live through. It becomes penance. You don't take penance personally--especially when you know you are not guilty. You do the "praschith," What other think of her, judging her-- its irrelevant to Paro.


She is not guilty of being besharam--she is not even guilty, I think, of being controlling or rude. She is following the path she believes in, and has no one she listens to (Mamisa, Thakurain, Dilsher, even) right now to tell her "no." She is doing manmaani--but thinks its blessed by her Bholenath--the signs say so. It must be so. I love her character--and I understand why the CVs spent the first one month giving us NO voice for Parvati--she needed to be alone to even find it. NOW, Paro is someone who pleases me purely because she is so--NOT us-- Not you, not me.


She has no inner motivation, no layers, no ego, no pride. I think we feel protective of Paro because it would not even occur to her to protect herself . Ego, pride, self esteem--all these are inner-monologue concepts--ideals that come from a secondary self. She has none--and there ARE people like this--and BTW, they are hugely dangerous, because the are so straightforward, no one can believe it.


That completely linear thinking where she LITERALLY answers things that are asked of her, and has no depth beyond what she is saying and feeling--no inner monologue--she is beautifully simple. Not stupid--but because she has always been led, passively, now that she is leading her own choices, nothing will sway her, or move her. It is this simplicity, this straight forwardness, literally not understanding how the other person might be finding her behavior odd--that is Paro.

Loving it...!


Wow. 👏.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#25


first the army , now parvati , !

Ditto, that's what I felt too. It's all being made a matter of convenience, to get some "intense" love story. Look at how contrived the dori scene and the other face-hiding scene was today. 😒

A village girl idolizing her pati to be shiv , this is not the way to show it
herethe cvs clearly they are drawing similarities and try to reason action taken example of shiv and parvati to show rudra and paro are meant to be together like shiv and parvati is , so parvati undergoing all this torture is fine
wrong reasoning , completely random comparison

👏👏👏

parvati is the strongest form of woman , she is considered to have the strength and power of all the women put together , and she is infamous or famous for her anger
shiv ji also has been victim of her extreme wrath
paro is looking dreamy and stupid ,because she is not having a thought process of her own , she is blindly obeying rudra

And here's this Parvati parallel taking in all of this modern Rudra's "tests". Where was that Parvati anger or at least, indignation when Rudra proposed marriage to Sumer? And now we wait for Monday to see how she reacts to these new accusations



standing on one foot really , does she really think rudra is shiv ,and from when is rudra her pati

Standing on one foot - was it Parvati who did that? @ttt1, awaiting your confirmation on this.
As far as I know it was Raavan who did that to appease Shiva. Am blank on Parvati doing that, but I believe the DKDM would have shown it that way


Edited by ishta345 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: napstermonster

There is an excellent reason you are not a Birpuri Village Girl with exactly 5th standard levels of education, a passive life that allowed you to drift along with no say and no voice for 18 years, and then Fate suddenly gave you--not just a say--but the only say--- in your choices. You are a smart woman who has a reaction to the abusive words being thrown at that village girl, and you would be right. You feel for her, extrapolate his cruel words as a slap to her pride, as something to protest. All right. Even Rudra, in his asking her---what is WRONG with you...he is right.



But from Paro's perspective, everything that is happening to her parallels the God narrative she has heard growing up--believing it, honestly worshiping it, leaving all decisions to it. She thinks she is going through the trials of Parvati, and sees literally nothing wrong with the comparison. When he says those horrible things--to her mind, he is just causing her additional "tapassya" that she must live through. It becomes penance. You don't take penance personally--especially when you know you are not guilty. You do the "praschith," What other think of her, judging her-- its irrelevant to Paro.


She is not guilty of being besharam--she is not even guilty, I think, of being controlling or rude. She is following the path she believes in, and has no one she listens to (Mamisa, Thakurain, Dilsher, even) right now to tell her "no." She is doing manmaani--but thinks its blessed by her Bholenath--the signs say so. It must be so. I love her character--and I understand why the CVs spent the first one month giving us NO voice for Parvati--she needed to be alone to even find it. NOW, Paro is someone who pleases me purely because she is so--NOT us-- Not you, not me.


She has no inner motivation, no layers, no ego, no pride. I think we feel protective of Paro because it would not even occur to her to protect herself . Ego, pride, self esteem--all these are inner-monologue concepts--ideals that come from a secondary self. She has none--and there ARE people like this--and BTW, they are hugely dangerous, because the are so straightforward, no one can believe it.


That completely linear thinking where she LITERALLY answers things that are asked of her, and has no depth beyond what she is saying and feeling--no inner monologue--she is beautifully simple. Not stupid--but because she has always been led, passively, now that she is leading her own choices, nothing will sway her, or move her. It is this simplicity, this straight forwardness, literally not understanding how the other person might be finding her behavior odd--that is Paro.

Loving it...!


Interesting perspective here.. I expected her to get hurt and react in some way atleast.. I guess that's because it's what someone like us would do.. But like u said.. She's not us..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ishta345



first the army , now parvati , !

Ditto, that's what I felt too. It's all being made a matter of convenience, to get some "intense" love story. Look at how contrived the dori scene and the other face-hiding scene was today. 😒

A village girl idolizing her pati to be shiv , this is not the way to show it
herethe cvs clearly they are drawing similarities and try to reason action taken example of shiv and parvati to show rudra and paro are meant to be together like shiv and parvati is , so parvati undergoing all this torture is fine
wrong reasoning , completely random comparison

👏👏👏

parvati is the strongest form of woman , she is considered to have the strength and power of all the women put together , and she is infamous or famous for her anger
shiv ji also has been victim of her extreme wrath
paro is looking dreamy and stupid ,because she is not having a thought process of her own , she is blindly obeying rudra

And here's this Parvati parallel taking in all of this modern Rudra's "tests". Where was that Parvati anger of at least, indignation when Rudra proposed marriage to Sumer? And now we wait for Monday to see how she reacts to these new accusations



standing on one foot really , does she really think rudra is shiv ,and from when is rudra her pati

Standing on one foot - was it Parvati who did that? @ttt1, awaiting your confirmation on this.
As far as I know it was Raavan who did that to appease Shiva. Am blank on Parvati doing that, but I believe that DKDM would have shown it that way


😆 talk about getting basics wrong
obviously they cant show parvati going to himalaya , quitting worldly pleasures , standing on one foot is a easy way out to convey the message


Edited by tttttt1 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Napster, can't quote because my phone messes up forum codes.

I'm all for the Parvati you've described. I support her, to an extent. But the lack of reaction was strange. I'm not suggesting Paro should have given it back to Rudra, because I'm still grappling with her character, and dunno what she should have done and all of that jazz. Maybe if the time span between the characterless comment, and the dragging out in the courtyard scene was a little more spaced out, it would have made more sense to me. She's steadfast and stubborn, but she's also sensitive. That didn't show today.

Anyway, let's just hope they bring down the symbolism. I shall never forget the Shiv-Parvati story in my life while watching RR. They need to move on.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Exprimere

@Napster, can't quote because my phone messes up forum codes.

I'm all for the Parvati you've described. I support her, to an extent. But the lack of reaction was strange. I'm not suggesting Paro should have given it back to Rudra, because I'm still grappling with her character, and dunno what she should have done and all of that jazz. Maybe if the time span between the characterless comment, and the dragging out in the courtyard scene was a little more spaced out, it would have made more sense to me. She's steadfast and stubborn, but she's also sensitive. That didn't show today.

Anyway, let's just hope they bring down the symbolism. I shall never forget the Shiv-Parvati story in my life while watching RR. They need to move on.


it was god send initially , today her reaction was different

rudra is not shiv ji
god send match is all fine , here she is behaving like he is shiv himself , her god
i cant disobey him even if it makes no sense , he cannot be wrong , he gets angry , blaaah
i find that wrong
@ishta

sumer track also i think it was the same issue there was a huge disconnect oscillation between god send and god , she handled it like he is god and god has to be pleased
paro should decide whether he is god or god send



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ttt1


it was god send initially , today her reaction was different

and rudra is not shiv ji
god send match is all fine , here she is behaving like he is shiv himself , her god
i cant disobey him even if it makes no sense , he cannot be wrong , he gets angry , blaaah
i find that wrong
@ishta

sumer issue also there was a huge disconnect oscillation between god send and god , she handled it like he is god and god has to be pleased
paro should decide whether he is god or god send



Completely agree with you. I think (and predicting something on RangRasiya seems to be a fool's game--but I cant help it!) I hope the CVs have a game plan, where they remember that this girl has no RIGHT to fall in love so quickly and so completely. Maybe they are working towards some maturity of Paro. He will ask for her forgiveness--and she wont give it to him, like she once said, back when she had a spine and working neurons in her brain.

Someone posted how the Shiv-Parvati story has three parts--Sati (the fiery one, who opposed him), Gauri (the disguise Parvati adopted to get close to him) and then Parvati herself (the companion, the other half). Until he is "normal" with her, and accepts her as Parvati and not the dasi/jogan Gauri I think the CVs will make Paro do these ridiculous things. Basically her identity got revealed, but her atitude of Gauri is still there. And until she gets her forgiveness, and he gets his brain back and realizes she is too simple to be devious--she is acting as the symbolic Gauri.


In another post I said something I'd like to repeat here ttt1: I dont actually buy her "love" for Rudra yet---her realization that he is her Hero--Absolutely. But to love Rudra, she needs to KNOW Rudra. Not the image of the God she has in her head, or even the Jallad he is projecting to her. And he needs to be a "godsend" as you say, and not God himself.


I repost: Rudra needs to stop being her eternal protector--maybe even become the one she needs protection, at least emotionally, from. He needs to be wrong. And THEN if she loves him--it will be a love tested through that fire she fears, but walks through, for him. And she will love him, then, as a man she has to judge, and then forgive. Not a God she has to worship, and never judge.


If her love in not based on awareness of his flaws, and the compassion to overcome them, it will be useless to them both. I believe that he will still be the one to love first, and love deeply. She will have to actually see him as a man, and not a god, before she can love him-and first, he will have to fall far below the protector, and become the villain, in a way, before he gets her love.

PS --HE is on the way to the villain role, Baisa--to mock her for what he himself did--the dori tying thing. It was very hot, but during it, I was cringing at what he would react and say later. Doris for some reason short circuit Indian males' bhejas. Real AND reel life. I've never known a non-desi guy LOSE it over two pieces of untied/tied string.


And to call her besharam for her chunri flapping in the wind--Rudra kabhi ghoos nahi gaya, iss ladki ki flying chunri ke andar? Tab Paro se invitation card mila tha? Abb aya virgin ka king... Typical male douche.

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