To be betrayed...there has to be trust first! - Page 5

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Originally posted by: prettypri

I guess there is no point debating when you use the words sexual harassment of which there was absolutely no evidence. You obviously see this as something different than what many of us see...y will not see from any point of view than Paros...and to see her pain you feel y need to vilify Rudra more and dilute hs intentins and reasons completely...I don't want to argue anymore.

You are welcome to have your POV and stick to it.

No offense.

I see it as it has been portrayed...it is sexual harassment when you try to intimidate an individual with seduction. Do you think what he was doing with Paro can be justified because he was doing it for his dead soldiers...or was his actions justified because he had a hard childhood...I guess you support Paro being tied like an animal? What is abuse if this is not abuse ? Anyways, we all see things differently...Rudra has abused Paro in every possible way...he was ready to force a marriage on her. I don't see him as a honorable man. You are right, I have seen enough abuse to very easily identify them.

Also, what you feel as an argument...I see it as constructive criticism and of-course a discussion. My views about Rudra will not change until the character goes through redemption...not because he suspected Paro as a terrorist...but for abusing her. Thanks for the discussion. No offense.

@prettypri & Sukhminder . I am going to repeat what Harshuu said. Both of you have echoed my feeling ditto. I love your 'Jhansi ki rani' bit. It wouldn't be fun to see her doing her thing ( like going after nandni etc ) & Rudra doing his things. I would love to see them do things ' together' in one frame. Another thing I love about RR is that the female protagonist isn't a ' Miss know it all ' Ektaa Kapoor types where they go extra mile to show them super human beings. Paro subconsciously loves Rudra , I think & that comes across very subtley in scenes like ' theek Ho ' , the look on her face when she hit him, not getting repulsed by his touch , many more instances are there which we all know.

So true, where is the question of betrayal when there never was any trust?

I do think that more than betrayal, Rudra is likely to reaffirm all his doubts about Paro. It all started with him convinced that she is part of the traitor group & over the course of time her actions & innocent demeanor has shaken those convictions, leaving him confused & distraught😆 Being told that she is responsible for the state his father is in, can logically strengthen his earlier feelings, starting a whole new chapter of hate.
On the other hand, if he can see that she has just learnt the truth about the Thakur & it dawns on him that she is innocent of his accusations, will he readily believe in the illusion created by Chachi to mislead him?

Very well said Rupunzale!

You need to have that trust to begin with. Which neither did - for their own reasons.

As viewers, we know that Paro took a wrong decision and she'll realize it soon. Which will indeed change her.

In fact, the entire trust building phase is yet to start. That'll be surely a worthy watch.

Originally posted by: ttt1

hey

technically you are right , rationale thinking says rudra should not be angry at paro for not trusting him

paro going with tejawat is actually not a surprise , he let her free to prove she is from that village now he has it

but if he is angry that means somewhere down he wanted to believe paro is not with tejawat and would believe him , that trust is broken

baseless trust and being hurt cos the trust is broken is the beginning of any bond so that is positive

otherwise what is all the fuss if he never believed her

no feeling from paro's side as yet , at the end of this track i think we will see that after realizing he was telling the truth all through out

i think the track is going okay

PS- that is if we ignore he is a BSD officer

hi there 😊...agree dear...Paro was very clear that she would never testify against her adopted father. Rudra never trusted Paro. He wanted her to sign the papers till the last minute...what foes that imply? That he still believes that she is somehow involved.

I feel extremely bad for Paro because the poor girl will see the true colors of her adopted dad...it's extremely painful. But decisions have consequences and so Paro has to face them too...this is a track where Paro will fight her inner battles. I don't want to see her go back to Rudra...the prejudices have to cleared. Rudra also has to know the truth that Paro was genuinely innocent in all this...

I wouldn't call his ' touching her ' sexual harrasment because she seemed to enjoy that because not for a min she was repulsed by it. Imagine Sumer doing this to her... I am sure she would have reacted differently . Secondly about tying her like an animal ... Well he tied her hands so that she doesn't get hurt on the bumpy road ( he told that to aman when aman protested) thirdly till then he wasn't sure of her innocence, he still considered her a criminal & he is the kind of man who wouldn't spare a criminal beti male or female . Also he was a very bitter man till then

Originally posted by: babyji

I wouldn't call his ' touching her ' sexual harrasment because she seemed to enjoy that because not for a min she was repulsed by it. Imagine Sumer doing this to her... I am sure she would have reacted differently . Secondly about tying her like an animal ... Well he tied her hands so that she doesn't get hurt on the bumpy road ( he told that to aman when aman protested) thirdly till then he wasn't sure of her innocence, he still considered her a criminal & he is the kind of man who wouldn't spare a criminal beti male or female . Also he was a very bitter man till then

You think she enjoyed him touching and seducing her? She was very much repulsed...how many times has she pushed him away? Anyways, I really don't see a point in discussing this because you clearly haven't seen her tears. Also, his bad childhood doesn't give him the right to be abusive to a prisoner and that to tying her like an animal...

Originally posted by: Rupunzale

hi there 😊...agree dear...Paro was very clear that she would never testify against her adopted father. Rudra never trusted Paro. He wanted her to sign the papers till the last minute...what foes that imply? That he still believes that she is somehow involved.

I feel extremely bad for Paro because the poor girl will see the true colors of her adopted dad...it's extremely painful. But decisions have consequences and so Paro has to face them too...this is a track where Paro will fight her inner battles. I don't want to see her go back to Rudra...the prejudices have to cleared. Rudra also has to know the truth that Paro was genuinely innocent in all this...

Originally posted by: LeenaRG

So true, where is the question of betrayal when there never was any trust?

I do think that more than betrayal, Rudra is likely to reaffirm all his doubts about Paro. It all started with him convinced that she is part of the traitor group & over the course of time her actions & innocent demeanor has shaken those convictions, leaving him confused & distraught😆 Being told that she is responsible for the state his father is in, can logically strengthen his earlier feelings, starting a whole new chapter of hate.
On the other hand, if he can see that she has just learnt the truth about the Thakur & it dawns on him that she is innocent of his accusations, will he readily believe in the illusion created by Chachi to mislead him?

he always thought that she was a traitor...he has seen her taking care of his father...if he believes kcm...it will prove once again that he had always thought the worst of Paro.