To be betrayed...there has to be trust first! - Page 2

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Sush-

Excellent point, Priyanka!


Rudra had no reason to expect she will side with him not Thakur ...yet he did for reasons probably unknown to him either...

Rudra has always protected her...so as an audience we subconsciously always want Paro to side with him when there is a fight...So her attacking Rudra and hurting him definitely looked like betrayal...but it really wasn't ...because from her point of view...she has always been clear on where she stood...and has told Rudra in so many words!

Yet from his point of view...he probably subconsciously expected her to value his attempts to save her...and feel the same about the importance of that over anything as he feels...

thanks Sush...I watched the episode today and was inspired to write the post after the last scene where he points at her accusatorially. Trust is an important factor when there is a feeling of betrayal and here there wasn't any trust at all.
Now, the million dollar question is how are they going to keep them together in one screen without the marriage?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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The feeling of betrayal is from Rudra's POV not in reality. By that I mean Rudra always protected her to the extent that she herself thought of him when nah danger presented itself.
In his subconscious thought that she trusted him probably and expected that she would come over to his side as he is her saviour...from her POV it's very clear who she trusts !

When she hit him the shock on his face mirrored the expectation that she would eventually understand...some part of his mind couldn't accept in that moment that she would actually hurt him ...especially after that save from the bullet!

So it's from his viewpoint that he would feel kind of betrayed...!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Madhushesha

I am not sure what show you guys are looking at, but Rudra and Paro definitely trusted, not completely, but trust was there. Paro did not trust Rudra regarding his accusations about Tejwat; however, she trusted him as her protector from everyone else. Rudra trusted Paro, but could not understand her reasons for supporting Tejwat. He admired her strength and conviction, but never directly complimented her on it, because is reason was given indirectly that she did not support the truth. Rudra believes that Paro is innocent, which is mentioned in his conversation with Aman, but he also believe and correctly so that she is the key to arresting Tejwat. After Paro save his life, he didn't expect her to do so, nor did he trust that Paro was capable of such a act, after all, Rudra has always been her savior from everyone else, including Tejwat. So trust did exist between the two.

He always believed that she was a criminal and that is the very reason he wanted her to sign the papers. He intimidated and blackmailed her...one doesn't do that when an individual is believed to be innocent.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rupunzale

He always believed that she was a criminal and that is the very reason he wanted her to sign the papers. He intimidated and blackmailed her...one doesn't do that when an individual is believed to be innocent.


I think that is a very partial view honestly...he mellowed enough to believe she was misguided and shielding Tejawat because of loyalty and not actually involved in his illegal activities.
That scene after the mehndi he actually pleaded with her not to make a mistake as regret is a very hungry emotion that eats at you!
She saved his life by calling out when the bullet was fired...doesn't that tell you that she had also grown to think of him as someone who was a saviour and someone she didn't want to see hurt?
She chose Tejawat because of her blind belief...from her POV she didn't betray anyone...but there is another POV here...that of the man she hit...he wasn't accusing her in the last scene...he was disbelieving that she could do that!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: hagen

Great Post I completely agree she never made any promise that she will support rudra against her villagers and thakur here if rudra feels betrayed then that's not her fault .whenever He expected her to trust him and not leave him she has always fought back and never believed any of his words before then y would she now .I don't see the reason y rudra should feel betrayed when he himself never trusted her and only wanted her to sign the papers .

thanks Hagen...she was very clear with the fact that she wanted freedom and that she never believed in the accusations against Tej. But importantly he never trusted her to be innocent so the feeling of betrayal cannot be justified.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lemonsunrise

Well said!! She never promised him anything so he have no reason to fell betrayed what so ever.

thanks lemonsunrise...there has to be mutual trust between two individuals for the feeling of betrayal to surface and in this case there was none.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: prettypri

The feeling of betrayal is from Rudra's POV not in reality. By that I mean Rudra always protected her to the extent that she herself thought of him when nah danger presented itself.

In his subconscious thought that she trusted him probably and expected that she would come over to his side as he is her saviour...from her POV it's very clear who she trusts !

When she hit him the shock on his face mirrored the expectation that she would eventually understand...some part of his mind couldn't accept in that moment that she would actually hurt him ...especially after that save from the bullet!

So it's from his viewpoint that he would feel kind of betrayed...!

hi Pri...that is my point too...from Rudra's pov he doesn't have a reason to feel betrayed because she was very clear that she wanted freedom from him. Yes, she saved him from the bullet because that is what Paro is...an individual who would save a person who has destroyed her and maybe subconsciously Rudra knows that but she was very clear when she rejected him openly stating that she would never return to him. My point here is Rudra never trusted her in the first place to feel betrayal.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: prettypri


I think that is a very partial view honestly...he mellowed enough to believe she was misguided and shielding Tejawat because of loyalty and not actually involved in his illegal activities.
That scene after the mehndi he actually pleaded with her not to make a mistake as regret is a very hungry emotion that eats at you!
She saved his life by calling out when the bullet was fired...doesn't that tell you that she had also grown to think of him as someone who was a saviour and someone she didn't want to see hurt?
She chose Tejawat because of her blind belief...from her POV she didn't betray anyone...but there is another POV here...that of the man she hit...he wasn't accusing her in the last scene...he was disbelieving that she could do that!

the scene was his last resort to intimidate her with an emotional angle...he tried everything from seduction...from threatening...blackmailing...I am not even going to go into all the sexual harassment...Paro believes in Tejawat just the way a child believes in her parent...yes, blind faith because he and Mala has practically raised her. Believe me Paro will be the one feeling the real betrayal when she comes to know that she trusted the wrong person.
I am sorry, it's not important whether he mellowed or not...what is important though...till the last moment he did want her to sign the papers and wanted to marry her knowing very well that she refused to marry. As a matter of fact, I have a feeling he will forcibly marry her now...I think that is the only way they can be together in the same screen. What are your thoughts in this?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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For me, today the bigger betrayal is Paro's betrayal by Tejawat ... or her knowledge of the betrayal... a betrayal by a father figure, a person she respected and trusted, a person who took her under his shelter when she lost her parents, and allowed her to grow under the umbrella of his protection and the love of his wife.
In case people don't understand the enormity of the betrayal, let me put in a comparison - It is almost to a father raping his own daughter ... here a father figure for his own selfish ends, gave up his daughter to an unknown future, a future which would have held only tragedy and destruction.
To discover that fifteen years of trust and affection were all a sham, a lie ... that the person she was fighting for, was ready to give up her life for, is such an evil person ... that is a far bigger betrayal for Paro than Paro 'betraying' Rudra ... it is something that will truly shatter her. As she said, this will be the death of the old Paro ... and from the ashes a new Paro will arise.

Paro never made Rudra any promises ... she held fast to her word that she did not want to marry him. Yes, she trusted Rudra as a protector of her personal safety ... but till the end, he was forcing her into a marriage she didn't want ... and he knew she didn't want. Then where does the question of Paro 'betraying' Rudra arise from? Yes, she will regret big time that she did not believe Rudra, did not trust him enough ... but she has not betrayed him.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: DiyaS

For me, today the bigger betrayal is Paro's betrayal by Tejawat ... or her knowledge of the betrayal... a betrayal by a father figure, a person she respected and trusted, a person who took her under his shelter when she lost her parents, and allowed her to grow under the umbrella of his protection and the love of his wife.

In case people don't understand the enormity of the betrayal, let me put in a comparison - It is almost to a father raping his own daughter ... here a father figure for his own selfish ends, gave up his daughter to an unknown future, a future which would have held only tragedy and destruction.
To discover that fifteen years of trust and affection were all a sham, a lie ... that the person she was fighting for, was ready to give up her life for, is such an evil person ... that is a far bigger betrayal for Paro than Paro 'betraying' Rudra ... it is something that will truly shatter her. As she said, this will be the death of the old Paro ... and from the ashes a new Paro will arise.

Paro never made Rudra any promises ... she held fast to her word that she did not want to marry him. Yes, she trusted Rudra as a protector of her personal safety ... but till the end, he was forcing her into a marriage she didn't want ... and he knew she didn't want. Then where does the question of Paro 'betraying' Rudra arise from? Yes, she will regret big time that she did not believe Rudra, did not trust him enough ... but she has not betrayed him.



Agree Diya completely...

Yesterday when seeing Paro felt it was an innocent child who hid behind her father and Rudra was the bad guy on the opposite side.

She took shield behind someone she thought and still thinks (until tonight) to be the one to save her and her village from BSD atrocities which she cleared listed out.

I dont think the CVs would use this runaway bride😉 the cause of the MU but more so the Dilsher arson attack.

The last shot where he raises an accusing finger is also his being overly sure that she would never hurt him. It was a physical blow not emotional one but for his male ego being hurt.

Here to add more fuel to the burnt out fire is KCM, and then Sunheri who has always been neutral, where he is forced to think at least until he sits and really thinks that Paro may have done it only to divert and distract everyone from the wedding (for it not to happen or delay) but not to kill his Father.

So the knock on the head actually raises the possibility of him thinking that she might have started the fire for distraction but NOT to kill anyone.

And then the outcome is grave, he wont be thinking straight for a while, she too is not around to defend herself...all this will surmount to his rage and anger being directed towards Paro. And lets not forget he is an alfa male who thinks he is always right. 😉

Am I making sense here...just wrote whatever came to my mind...


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