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Midnight

@Midnightsorrow

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Posted: 11 years ago

#61

Originally posted by: LoLo

I don't think there is anything romantic about Rudra at this point. But if you look around tv for a few years the trend has been for the lead hero to be more grey than black(bad) or white(good). Rudra is grey, no doubt.

International viewers loves the bad guys while TRP rulers have the good guys. Even I love these type of stories in Indian television love/hate concept are the only soaps that attract me I did try those shows on the V channel but find them too cheesy for my taste.

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Midnight

@Midnightsorrow

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Posted: 11 years ago

#62

Originally posted by: LoLo

I don't think there is anything romantic about Rudra at this point. But if you look around tv for a few years the trend has been for the lead hero to be more grey than black(bad) or white(good). Rudra is grey, no doubt.

If you look into his past as a little boy he was a jolly child he loves his mother I don't think he's an animal either he has emotions, we see him break down & cry many times he just doesn't let others see that side of him... He does it privately for others he might be an Animal in the outside but in the inside he's still a child waiting one day his mother will return home.

I have nothing much to put on his relationship with Laila since I can't connect much to them to be honest.

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squivi

@squivi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#63

Originally posted by: LoLo
To answer all the debates we go to the horses mouth. Today's episode Laila spoke of him not believing in relationships and love and Rudra spoke of no promises and no rights. Isn't that what this comes down to? Rudra promised nothing and told Laila not to hope for anything. He took what he wanted and she gave it, secretly hoping,that it would be enough or that he would change. He didn't change. He dumped her (or so it seems) and she's angry. Why? He let her know what was what and she still did what she wanted. Yes, she's there as an antagonist, yes she helps them fall in love. But, did she not stay in this stagnant relation of her own accord? Was she forced? No, so why the anger? Why the threats? That is my point. If I sign on to get paid $100 for a days work and someone else gets the same $100 for half day, why am I upset? I got what I signed on for didn't I?

100% agree. The terms of their 8 year relationship (I personally term it as Friends with Benefits) were defined from the beginning. He promised her absolutely nothing. She accepted the terms. While I understand her pain (as a woman, I have been in a one-sided relationship too), Rudra shouldn't bear the brunt of the blame for something BOTH of them consented to. It's not his fault that Laila's feelings changed/became open. Nor is it hers. It's not his fault that his feelings for Paro are slowly changing. Nor is it hers or Paro's. However, to blame Rudra or question his character for "leading her on" when all this time Laila seemed fine with the casual nature of their relations, is ridiculous. For 8 years she didn't object to the nature of their relationship? Why not? If she wanted more from him, why didn't she demand it earlier? If she was in a committed relationship with him, she would've earned the right to ask/demand him to put a ring on it, nor would she have accepted the terms of their agreement from the get-go.

I learned first hand, that we also allow ourselves to be led on and Laila did the same, which is natural too. As women, we have to take care of ourselves first before putting a man ahead of our needs. Rudra isn't wrong, Laila isn't wrong. It's just a gross miscommunication and misconstruction between a man and a woman in an undefined relationship, which happens ALL THE TIME in the real world. Nobody should be demonized in a situation like this, unless there was mutual love between them. Seeking comfort, sex and food doesn't constitute a mutual and serious relationship. As I said earlier, it's called FWB. Just my opinion.

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CravingKhana

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Posted: 11 years ago

#64

Originally posted by: PhoenixRising
Okay lets say it was Paro in Rudra shoes who been in an 8 years relationship for 8 years, will Indian viewers be able to accept a female Rudra?

They will bash the heroine and said she isn't suitable to be a heroine but for a hero it's romantic? What double standard is this really?

I'm lost here ...not sure what point you are trying to make...😕

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CravingKhana

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Posted: 11 years ago

#65

Originally posted by: LoLo
To answer all the debates we go to the horses mouth. Today's episode Laila spoke of him not believing in relationships and love and Rudra spoke of no promises and no rights. Isn't that what this comes down to? Rudra promised nothing and told Laila not to hope for anything. He took what he wanted and she gave it, secretly hoping,that it would be enough or that he would change. He didn't change. He dumped her (or so it seems) and she's angry. Why? He let her know what was what and she still did what she wanted. Yes, she's there as an antagonist, yes she helps them fall in love. But, did she not stay in this stagnant relation of her own accord? Was she forced? No, so why the anger? Why the threats? That is my point. If I sign on to get paid $100 for a days work and someone else gets the same $100 for half day, why am I upset? I got what I signed on for didn't I?

your $100 rationalism does not quite work for me ..

but re the debate we have not debated the rules of their relationship but that it was one...and that one is owed the courtesy of an explanation even if it was friends and nothing sexual.

Rudra can say he owes her no explanation and no rights but he did the moment he kept going back to her after he realised she wanted more...

the thing is is Laila justified in going for murder ...if she commits it then she cannot be justified..(.thothe law does allow for madness)...but she is allowed her anger what ever the arrangement so to speak ...if you have been intimate with a person for over 8 years then even if she is not in love ...feelings happen as SJ said one gets attached to inanimate things when you have had it long enough

where we are at in the show is a gross misunderstanding ...for Rudra is not aware of his growing feelings for Paro ...and Laia has MUed his marriage..and the reasons behind it..

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Vimal M

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Posted: 11 years ago

#66

Originally posted by: PhoenixRising
Okay lets say it was Paro in Rudra shoes who been in an 8 years relationship for 8 years, will Indian viewers be able to accept a female Rudra?

They will bash the heroine and said she isn't suitable to be a heroine but for a hero it's romantic? What double standard is this really?

Indian Soaps N Society Promotes Double Standards. Hero Can Do Anything . But Heroine Should Be Epitome Of Peace N Sacrifice. They Should Do Social Work N Counseling . If The Hero Had Dark Past.

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Vimal M

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Posted: 11 years ago

#67

Originally posted by: CravingKhana

I'm lost here ...not sure what point you are trying to make...😕

If Hero Is Not Virgin Indian Viewers Will Accept.If Heroine Is Not Virgin They Will Not Accept Her. Because Indian Soap Bahu's R Devi's .

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CravingKhana

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Posted: 11 years ago

#68

Originally posted by: VIMAL.M

If Hero Is Not Virgin Indian Viewers Will Accept.If Heroine Is Not Virgin They Will Not Accept Her. Because Indian Soap Bahu's R Devi's .

I get that but I dont understand why the point is made here ...its a Rudra ...Laila debate!

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LoLo

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Posted: 11 years ago

#69

Originally posted by: CravingKhana

your $100 rationalism does not quite work for me ..

but re the debate we have not debated the rules of their relationship but that it was one...and that one is owed the courtesy of an explanation even if it was friends and nothing sexual.
Rudra can say he owes her no explanation and no rights but he did the moment he kept going back to her after he realised she wanted more...

the thing is is Laila justified in going for murder ...if she commits it then she cannot be justified..(.thothe law does allow for madness)...but she is allowed her anger what ever the arrangement so to speak ...if you have been intimate with a person for over 8 years then even if she is not in love ...feelings happen as SJ said one gets attached to inanimate things when you have had it long enough

where we are at in the show is a gross misunderstanding ...for Rudra is not aware of his growing feelings for Paro ...and Laia has MUed his marriage..and the reasons behind it..

It may not work for you, but it is what it is. You got what you signed on for and in our great debate, so did Ms Laila. On that note, I call it quits for my part on this debate. I agree to disagree and now I'm going to watch tv. See ya!